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It depends on what you think makes a god a god. Depending on your definition Barack Obama might be kind of a god, for example.

That depends, there's still plenty of tough enemies the enchantment could be useful against if you haven't done the bounties, Cragholdt, the dragon fights...

Did you go to Elmsreach yet? If not put that off until after you've done WM2. I would recommend doing both WM1 and WM2 as soon as possible because they have Soulbound weapons(and one piece of armour) that gain powers from defeating enemies, so you want to have plenty of monsters left to slay after you get them. So, a rough itemised list: 1: Do WM1 and WM2(you can go between the main game and the expansion as you please so continue with Act 3 at your leisure, just don't go to Elmsreach yet(specifically, you can go to Elmsreach if you want but do not go into the interior location called Teir Evron)) 2: Do bounties and the Endless Paths. Also, after you go to Cragholdt and complete the quest there you'll get access to a follow-up quest, just go to Stalwart and explore the west side of the town 3: Go to Elmsreach and the Burial Isle. Bear in mind that jumping down the hole you find on the Burial Isle will begin the endgame so only do that until after everything else. Stronghold stuff should just crop up automatically, I'd recommend putting off the "climactic" bit of the stronghold quest for a while because it can be affected by things you do elsewhere in the game and expansions, which is pretty cool.

Let's at least get the patch notes first, then we can ask when it'll go live.

A bunch of gods seem to double up. Eothas probably roomed with Hylea or something

With the 3.00 patch I played to the end of the game and Zahua's slide showed the picture for Devil Of Caroc instead. In the Stories forum someone with 3.01 posted their ending slides and showed the same thing: http://imgur.com/a/tANm7

They still haven't fixed that Zahua slide? Yikes! I'm making a topic in the tech support forum. Are you using the 3.02 beta or are you still on the 3.01 patch?

See, in your case one can assume English isn't your first language, and either that or a shoddy translation is responsible for you not getting the reveal, but that guy doesn't have the same excuse. He literally thinks the reveal at the end of the game is "the entities known as Ondra, Galawain, Magran, etc do not exist" rather than what it actually is: "the entities known as Ondra, Galawain, Magran, etc are not gods"

You didn't say it, no, but it's fairly easy to make inferences about people who can consider a fantasy story which expresses the artifical nature of power structures through the metaphor of the gods of the setting being artificial as "atheist propaganda" and who are "appalled" by it.

Man yeah, I remember all those... romance options in... Fallout New Vegas...

Lol "I hope that future installments on this fantasy story will be properly reverent to the real God"

She says the gods aren't real and IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT clairifies they were manufactured. You talk with her about the gods being manufactured and then you talk with Thaos about the gods being manufactured and then when you beat Thaos you get a long flashback scene of the gods being manufactured. Did you hit alt+f4 when Iovara said "the gods aren't real" or something. Yeah, I know she explains they are manufactured hence the atheist propaganda. She doesn't say the gods are manufactured, she says they aren't real period. You would't have a line like that unless you want to shove some propaganda down the player's throat. I'm not like i'm the only one who noticed this, there are a lot of atheist players who loved the atheist message. Nothing wrong with them enjoying it. Still I don't have to like it. And before you start that it doesn' t matter she said the weren't real, let me stop you there and remind you there are no options to tell her it makes no difference if they are manufactured or not. It's clearly implied that's a given ( the fact they aren't real). Now we can rationalize that it doesn't matter if they are manufactured or not or that Iovara is clearly isane for believing they aren't real but that's not the message the game wanted to send. I don't even know what this means. "yeah I know she says they were manufactured but she doesnt say they were manufactured" did brimsurfer get banned and rereg?

I doubt the eyeless did anything to the Engwithans, since they were either gone or all but gone by then(I figure the process of creating the gods consumed, say, 99.9% of Engwithans and the rest stayed behind as emissaries of the new religion or to protect the secret like Thaos). I'd imagine the eyeless serve as Ondra's version of the Leaden Key, destroying anyone who acquires dangerous knowledge like the Pargrunen at Durgan's Battery- the problem being that now Durgan's Battery is back up and knowledge of it is spreading, the Eyeless would cause a lot of damage in the process of covering it up. As for not destroying the Engwithan ruins, my own theory is that Ondra decided to preserve them in regret for what happened to Abydon, and that's when the Glanfathans were brought in to protect them.

She says the gods aren't real and IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT clairifies they were manufactured. You talk with her about the gods being manufactured and then you talk with Thaos about the gods being manufactured and then when you beat Thaos you get a long flashback scene of the gods being manufactured. Did you hit alt+f4 when Iovara said "the gods aren't real" or something.

Well, Abydon clearly agreed.

For question 1, absolutely A. Thaos spent decades stealing souls from an entire country just to give Woedica a boost; how many people must it have taken to make a god from scratch? IMO Ondra didn't want to wipe out the last remaining Engwithans, she wanted to wipe out the Engwithan ruins. As for question 2, it could be Ondra just convinced them to go along with it for the sake of keeping things smooth; the gods seem to take extra care not to tread on each other's toes and interfere with each other or mortals.

One thing about that big ending reveal is that it shows who reads and who doesn't; I've seen a number of people who got to the end-where Iovara says "the gods aren't real" and then clarifies how that statement makes sense-and said "pff I spoke with the gods they're clearly real, gimme a break""

She didn't want to destroy the Engwithans, she wanted to destroy their memory: the machines and writings they left behind.

Nor that I remember. You can recruit either the Dozens or the Knights (possibly the Doemenels as well?) to help you in the fight over the stronghold though.

Alpha Protocol hit kind of a sweet spot for me in length where it really enhanced the replayability. Witcher 2 might be even better at reactivity but it's like 25 hours long and it's not fun enough for me to want to play it through a load of times to see everything; I played it twice to see Roche and Iorveth's paths and I was rushing towards the end of that. Alpha Protocol is flawed too but it's fun enough to justify ~8 hours of investment every now and then to see something new, with the result that I've played it through close to a dozen times.

I peeked through the ending slides for him and none of them seemed to be sad, like I think you can convince him of multiple things like Sagani but in his case he takes something positive from everything.

Oh my sweet summer child... Not saying that violence is a good solution but just that it is a solution. I do not consider violence, in and of itself, as evil. It is just another tool in the tool box. A really blunt instrument but still just a tool. What problem does violence not solve? From global hunger and over-population to global warming, from shoplifting to insurrection, they can all be solved through the application of violence. Only violence can bring about peace during a war, while having a ceasefire almost always results in further conflict or at least extending the conflict. How the hell would you use violence to solve global warming? Global warming is caused by humans, so the answer to this question would seem to be incredibly obvious.

Is it the blue soulbound sceptre? That's in the main game, though you're meant to get it as a quest reward when you spat with that guy over the stronghold.

The writers are not pontificating their personal dispositions, or at least what they are pontificating is not what you think it is. Even if they were, speaking out against someone pontificating their personal dispositions is implicitly an attack against every work of literature, or even any story with any kind of theme, ever written, which seems to be a bit of a big ask for a videogame thread. As for me, I'm a bad winner and I'm just wallowing in my victory.

lmao "admitted". Yeah I'm not religious guys, my whole beef with this story isn't because my faith is so weak that any reference to atheism starts eroding the foundations of my sandcastle, it's just uh, bad storytelling