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I don't like melee and i've got only 2 unique guns so far: 1.Kitchen Stove's Thunderous Report fill my Focus in 1 shot 2. Scordeo's Trophy and i'm gonna get Xefa's Empirical Explication asap :-P

As i said, as Monk\Cipher with low resolve you just need to do more micro on your group to prevent your MC being attacked. You can engage and distract enemies with other party member and then activate Dance of Death. But as i said, Rogue\Cipher will outdamage Monk\Cipher in short (20-30s) fights. I understand the RP thing about Monk\Cipher and it can be good at PoTD long fights.

First off - your MC in first two builds has the least Resolve than anyone in your party. It means your MC will be focused by enemies - especially by ranged enemies - from the start of an encounter. So, Monk's Dance of Death won't give you much before level 11. Even then with Enduring Death you'll get shot and melee engaged. So, without any "escape" ability you'll need to micro you party to not give a chance your MC been hit too much or engaged. On other hand the Rogue even with low Resolve won't be melee engaged, cause it has "escape" abilities. You don't need to babysit the whole party, only MC. Rogue\Cipher will outdamage Monk\Cipher even with CC role. And you can always choose to be CC or DD or even mix CC\DD abilities of both classes. Shadowdancer is not a Magin Gunman archetype, it's just a gunman. Take a look at Ranger\Cipher builds, thou i don't really like their micro

i'd try Barbie\Druid-Shapeshifter.

And wizards

I love your builds, Cyrus_Blackfeather Don't stop making them!

Well, i'd use Kitchen Stove with Thunderous Report for 1shot focus generation and second weapon set with Scordeo's Trophy and some other pistol. Thunderous report then switch to pistols then spam your spells

does Swift Flurry work with ranged weapon? In russian translation it says it works with melee only.

i'm on stable branch

i have same issue save files attached Dexter (d7341157-55bd-4cea-878b-bbb0711cd10c) autosave_0.zip

Ranged Cipher vs Melee Cipher? Hmmm.... Gunslinger is an answer!

Me too played and finished the game as Gunslinger Cipher (i've done it just to transfer last savegame to POE2) Pure Cipher suck, imho. But martial multiclassed - RP wise killing machine Tank Cipher Barb Cipher Monk Cipher ( add Monk and feel the OPness of multiclass!) Even Druid! Cipher (thou it's not the best multiclass) Rogue Cipher - that kind of sneaky-picky bastard. I'd not even take any Rogue subclass there. Paladin Cipher - there is a build in main thread, but it's melee ( i just don't like melee) all those multiclasses can be RPed very good.

Cipher is a BEST RP character. It has a subclass - Ascendant. With almost ANY martial class he can provide just infinite cipher's spells spam. With 2 guns and 1 martial +damage ability he can reach max focus in no time. He doesn't even need to dump Constitution. Multiclassed with some classes it's just a killing machine. RP wise, tbh. The Gunslinger! The one, who shoot then ask. But, diplomacy skill is higly reccomended!

i don't feel the same connection with companions like in POE1 i'd kill them all, but Eder

Cipher Gunslinger multiclassed with some martial class(not Ranger!) only. Others just meh. Gameplay pros: obvious Gameplay cons: what other class to choose? Roleplay pros: It's a Gunslinger! Roleplay cons: no :-P i highly reccomend to look at some of @Boeror's POE1 builds. They are all RP and unique.

you don't need pirate flag to go to Deadlight

@mant2si, thanks, i saw your build! :^) I think there is too much micro, i know it's POTD on video, but still even pet AI OFF automatically is a little bit annoying.

If you please, i won't make another similiar thread about picking a multiclass. I've bought the game at very release and played 21h since. Thou i've barely escaped the first island after the shipwreck. I'm struggle to find "my" build for convenient and fun walkthrough. I'm in the same boat as OP and i need to multiclass my Ranged Ascendant Cipher. I want to go dual-wield pistols or blunderbusses. I want some sort of Gun-Fu build with Cipher included. I've tried Monk, Rogue-Assassin, Barbarian and Ranger. I've even tried Druid-Shifter, thou it doesn't synergies well with Cipher. CONS for me about classes above: Assassin: it's most for melee Barbarian: can't say i like the way the barbarian skillz work. Ranger: imho it would be the best choice for ranged Asc.Cipher, thou i don't like Ghost Heart summon mechanics, pet AI always OFF when i summon it. Sharpshooter not so good for blunderbuss. Pure Ranger with tanking Bear? I'd give it a go. Can't say anything bad about Monk, i need to check this class again. Now i play Rogue-Streetfighter\Asc.Cipher and i use blunderbuss modal for "self-buff". It's the first time i leave the Port Maje Island @Boeror, i know you always have GREAT ideas about class builds, i'd appreciate any thoughts.

can't find one piece in a vase near the grey sleeper. i hav 11 mechanics.

then, please, show better melee cipher build

About Cipher. Took from here http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=416939844

Great job! Thanks!

What's going on? No word on announcements page.

Great guide. I have a question - is focus restores by using damaging powers?

Devs, fix my Cypher please!