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My point was that the sword never actualy played a huge part in battle, spears and projectile weapons were the main weapons of war, swords were always more of a secondary weapon. There are a few exceptions to this like Japan. Sorry for the inacuracy of bow and arrow invention

The large usage of cortosis isn't storyline related, it's a game excuse for lightsabers not being a 1 hit kill weapon. There is no way to make your character block or attack a certain way, only a predefined sequence, which is exactly the same as the melee sword attack sequence. A sword cuts through people with a medium amount of ease, it's not as if sword hits actualy just barely hurt you, if you don't block you are dead or near mortally wounded, or mabey you just loose a limb. Ofcourse also in real life as soon as the bow and arrow were invented the sword became obsolete and was rarely ever used again. The lightsaber is a sword consisting of a concentrated light beam the hilt that projects the beam, a lightsaber would be extremely clumbsy to use, but jedis have the force and that lets them predict their clumbsyness and avoid mishaps like loosing ones arm, apparently this doesn't help much for fighting enemies, as limbs get chopped off quite regularly so it seems. Your not going to get anything near realistic in an RPG or many other games. You can't controle a sword as you would in real life with a mouse and keyboard. JKA is probaly the closest to being near realistic, and it's still a long way off. Dexerity is meant to aid defense in this off aim RPG, having it help everything would make all other atributes worthless, might as well just have dexterity alone be leveled up automaticly every time you level up. I am a fan of KOTOR games for the story No offense is intended & have a nice day

Burton also played Geordi La Forge on Star Trek TNG

Frankly, no offense, but alot of what I've seen of RPG communities is mindless bickering and whining, so my opinion of the average RPG lover isn't so high. I've read hundreds of threads, on dozens of boards & all in all, I've seen FPS hating/bashing, lots of unending bickering and lots of whiny complaints about little things. FPS communities aren't perfect by I think there is a tad more unity and a little less "I want my way!" fits going around. Note that I am not saying that all CRPG players are like this, just many seen on these boards and others. Now again, no offense is intended Onto the topic, I think KOTOR 1 is an overrated, overhyped, RPG. At first it was great, story depth: good/average, commen sense: a bit lacking but thats nothing new for star wars since the prequels. It had decent graphics and most detail was done for characters which were then overused. Bioware's lazyness begins to show after the first two quick play throughs. Everything seemed finished and done, but in that, it was done very poorly. Character animation for instance, was highly lacking, overuse of humanoid characters to save time created a human/humanoid dominated universe of unoriginal characters. Most enviornment elements were taken from the movies rather then research based on the vast amount of usable EU. For example the "Jedi cannot love rule" was based on the poorly used romance theme from the prequels which is a re-use of Romeo and Juliet. Such acts were not put in place till a few hundred years after the Exar Kun wars, which is supposedly the explanation for why the rule exists. Carth was poorly portrayed as rather then a brave war hero with a case of paranoia over the death of his family, and was shown as an anoying cowardly pranoid delusion who didn't understand enough of what was going on to do he job half decently without having a nervous break down. Bastila was supposed to be the cold selfish bratty jedi princess (similar to Leia) that warmed up. What was created was a cold lifeless anoying character with poorly explained pride, the character does warm up but outside of small chats here and there is the same character that we started out with, two clashing presonalities due to poor dialog. Zaalbar, the wookie that just wouldn't talk about anything, it is explained why but it does not explain the malice shown earlier towards the PC, a cold hatred, even after a lifedebt was given, all these things happened, the silent furball remained cold to all things. T3-M4 the useless pile of junk that followed the PC everywhere, not much to be said about him, he whirrs, he beeps, he boops, and he opens one door. The busy streets of taris were more like a walk through a park on a winter day. The music further complimented this. Infact throughout the game the music is slow going no matter where one is, unless it's a battle it's slow peaceful music reflecting a quiet time even though the galaxy is caught up in a massive war. Difficulty and Gameplay, well theres not much to expect of gameplay from an RPG, u level up, u choose ur attack que and let it unfold before you. Not much could be improved in such a limited system in my opinion, but thats just my opinion. I have yet to play KOTOR 2, but it sounds like a good mind bending game where everything isn't peiced together for you. Note that all of the above is opinions and veiws, no offense is intended, like what you like, don't like what u don't like, I'm just saying what I wanted to say.

KOTOR 1 is overrated I beleive, the story was a peice together of elements from other games and movies. At first it was great, then it just began to realy seem boring and more rip off like every time I replayed it. I haven't played KOTOR 2 but it sounds better than KOTOR 1 These are all just my opinions

It was said by Akari to be Atris if I recall correctly. I think the concept art and wallpaper had more of a medaphoric meaning of LS vs. DS that was nullified when Atris was made evil in the game plot, but ofcourse nobody but LA and Obsidian knew this so they just continued with it. But thats just what I think

OT Movies- Make Up, Costumes, Puppets all cost money, after the sucess of the first film it wouldn't seem right to turn the galactic empire into an alien populated not human dominated society in the second or third movies, with them all being so close within the time period. KOTOR- Bioware lazyness, they were unoriginal and knew very little about star wars outside of what was directly shown in the official films. They didn't want to do different animation sets for more than 4-5 races so they elimated most of the non human races which could have been put in and put in the basic human like ones such as twileks, bith, those other dudes who were popular and invented a new race that again used human animations. They went out of their lazy way to create the selkath but did a poor job portraying nuetrality and turned them into a snobby acting pacifist race that didn't know what to do with itself, though it was an interesting situation they could have made it more beleivable. One thing I am getting pestered by in star wars games is the fact that the villan in 29 out of 30 times will be human, not to mention the dominant theme of running around killing sith wanna bes and finding clues/starmaps/whatever which somehow are used to find out/locate the enemy superweapon. I want to see some real living, pure alien sith running about using sith alchemy and some real military encounters with some real gameplay

HK-47: most original character in KOTOR I hope to see him again in KOTOR 2, to hear his phsycotic comments again, muahahahhahaha. He is something that some people just don't get, and yet many just find hilarious.

The more I read these thread the more I see mindless and idiotic posts piling up. RPGs are probaly the least intelligence required games, no need for decent aim, no need to know how to use ur weapon just let the comp do all that for you, whoever has the best weapons and stats wins. Don't bash the FPS genre just because ur no good at FPS games. It's rediculous to think that just because u don't like how something is played to say that it's a sucky overhyped game. It wasn't fun, in your opinion, in my opinion RPGs are only good for storylines, the rest is normal-crappy. No offense is intended, I just don't like mindless FPS genre bashings

Race games are popular yes but no where near as popular as FPS games, sports related titles such as Maden are not realy all that popular in most of the gaming community. FPS' are integrating more and more vehicle elements, when u can drive around a jeep with a plasma cannon do you realy care about some racing game with no guns, no enemies and no story Again like my other post no offense intended

same as above, no Halo 2 is an FPS with an incredibly massive following for an x-box game KOTOR 2 is a CRPG with a sizable fan following, nothing extrordinary for a recent SW game Halo 2 has great gameplay so I've heard aswell as great graphics, but a lacking storyline KOTOR 2 has poor gameplay (it's a CRPG u shouldn't expect half decent gameplay) a great storyline and slightly above average graphics Unfortunately I have no X-Box and will not be able to play either of the sequels, atleast until feb when KOTOR 2 goes PC. No insults intended

He said the character that we (the community majority) refer to as Atris is seperate if I recall

Akari previously stated the character being reffered to as "Atris" the WHC is seperate from the handmaiden

I think this might be pre-cyborg grevious, look at the eyes

I've been looking for a version showing the MSG and Atris not fighting but about to, yet to find it, can anyone help it's not the same wallpaper but I've seen it in avatars and sigs

my point was that that visas is handmaiden and vice versa, they are one in the same

I think that visas and handmaiden are the same character. The face structure seems a tad different but we haven't gotten the same angle of perspective looking at visas and the handmaiden. But otherwise they look pretty much the same, same body shape, same theme. U can't have a dark side version of a single person and a lightside version of a single person at the same time now can u?

to my knowledge it has been said that atirs and the handmaiden are both seperate characters, I think obsidian is overdoing the whole white haired women theme, 1 was cool, 2 was fine, 2 and a PC head with white hair gets a bit much, oh yeah and kreia, no wait she has grey hair. Just use normal old blonde hair dang it. Not that I mind all too much, but I've seen 3 seperate characters so far with white hair which should be just a tad less common for people so young. Yet I haven't seen a single blonde. As for the Handmaiden/visa dispute, I'm pretty sure they are the same person, both by the banners and site and by the fack that they are both hooded females with the same body shape. I doubt u'll be running around in the game referring to a person when u speak to them as "Handmaiden"

Sion looks to be the Marauder Nihilis the Sith Lord Female Sith looks to be the assasain Atris looks to be a weapons master or possibly the watchman Kreia looks to be a [Jedi master] The hooded jedi/ handmaden looks to be either a watchman or the less likely weapons master The titles on the pictures I think are just things stuck to the player out of 2 possible alignments not indications of that characters alignment The site looks incredible with all the great graphics and interesting designs and the overall interaction

Star Wars Hyperspace travels far faster then the speed of light, it travels at the near infitive speed of PLOT. If the plot requires it'll take a while, if the plot requires it'll be instantanious. Hyperspace looks a tad bit different, a bit brighter, less wormhole like. U can see it in JA (Star Destroyer Assault map) JO (aboard the doom giver) and the aforementioned games. The star streaks scene in the movie was supposedly the entering hyperspace sequence. Oddly enough even outside of this universe one can still be hit by objects that only exist in this universe. I never realy liked the starwars concept of hyperspace, too much plot based technobable nonsense and too little realism to it.

twileks seem to be the most popular dancers in the star wars galaxy among other things, they seem to have more flexibility

I personaly don't give a dang about you Hades one, ur outlook on life is poor, self destructive and cold. I am a christian, and don't give a dang if u don't like it. Poor security set up during a democrat administration allowed 9/11 to happen.

Bush- Christian, Respectable, Conservative Kerry- Lying, Word Tiwsting, Backstabbing, Liberal Extremist What some call respect for the world I call stupidity. We support the dang world with foreign aid, money, food, ect. ect. We support Europe and all those dang liberal countries and they don't care, as long as we don't share the same exact liberal veiws we are stupid amer-ric-cons. It doesn't matter if we've helped defeat world wars waged by evil people (IE we helped stop Hitler) Bush no more lied then the people walking down the street talking about the world being flat back in the days before people beleived in the round earth we beleive today. We were informed by our intelligence that sadam was a WMD threat, we were informed by Russia that sadam was a WMD threat, the world agreed, Sadam was a WMD threat. What couldn't be decided was what to do, liberals wanted to hold off on an invasion and try the let the world walk all over u tactic. Bush was supposed to take the word of Sadam Husseign over the CIA? and the rest of our organizations. Might I add that Sadam bombed his own hospital, invaded his neighbor huwait and tortured civilians, not to mention the things he did to test his bioweapons including testing them on a great number of dogs. Yeah I'm an animal lovin tree hugger, Bush hasn't done much for the enviornment but look what he has dealed with: 9/11, War on Terror, War on Iraq, Post War difficulties. Things take time, insurgents have always been around after major wars, post WW2 for example, we dealt with insurgents. 2 wars and 9/11 crippled the enconemy and lost jobs, not Bush. All the above are opions and views, no offense intended

I agree with most of the above except the last comment, about the USA, we support hundreds of countries with "foreign aid"

Becomes a stripper in a bar! and a dang good one[/size=1] J/K Somewhere she becomes a jedi, marries teomor secura, and becomes the ancestor of alaya secura. I doubt we'll see mission in KOTOR 2, but who knows, I rather liked the character and would like to see her return depending on the questions at the beginning of the game. If whiny paranoid delusional carth (who can be killed in KOTOR 1) can come back, why not the young vibrant spirited blue twi'lek (who can be killed also in KOTOR 1)? Although I didn't use her character much, and use all jedi party most of the time, I still find characters interesting even if not jedi. She'd escape from prison if she was caught (she escaped from the sith in KOTOR 1 aboard the leviathan) though I doubt she would murder someone, after all if u completed the sidequest she isn't all that angry about lena any more, she comes to realise that it was her brother's doing. EDIT: To my knowledge she used "galactic basic" IE English languge, rather then twilek garble