Jediphile

She says that it's unlikely the Force would be lost to the Exile unless another factor was involved beside the horrors of the Mandalorian Wars, which is true, in fact she lost her connection to the Force because of her talent with Force-bonding, that's why she had to cut herself off from the Force, only Kreia could not tell you that. Kreia (to exile): "If my suspicions are correct, perhaps the damage the Jedi Council did was not as permanent as they thought. It is not an easy thing, to cut one off from the Force. {Challenging}What did you believe? That you suddenly lost your connection with the Force without reason?" Kreia could have told the exile what she preferred, but said this instead, clearly inferring that the masters were responsible without actually saying so. Does she lie here? Maybe not, but she certainly manipulates the exile into thinking something she knows isn't true. Because there is no such explanation, and we can even question if Kreia wound up with the Ebon Hawk at all. After all, not being a pilot she cannot fly it, nor can she plot hyperjumps without T3, so who really has wound up with it? Even if Kreia is there, she is a passenger at best. Always doubt Kreia. Always. If Kreia told me water was wet, I'd check with three other people before I believed her. As for T3, he knows EVERYTHING throughout the game, but says nothing, except to admit that he has manipulated the exile into the circumstances of the game. That doesn't give him much credibility. He was programmed to do that, but that still means he can lie. There is reason to doubt him. Look at the treatment he gives HK-47, when he begins poking around the business of the navi-computer, for example. What would be the point of there if it merely leads to Malachor V?

The Emperor did not live much beyond ROTJ in the expanded universe, though. He came back in the six-issue Dark Empire arc, then returned in the next six-issue Dark Empire II and then finally expired completely in the two-issue Empire's End. So all in all he lived fourteen issues beyond ROTJ. And the KotOR comic book with Zayne Carrick, which is really reaching its climax at the moment.

I question some things in the game, just as you do yourself. For example, Kreia infers in the game that the exile's lost connection to the force is due to something the masters have done to the exile. You should question that because it's not true, and Kreia knows it. It's reasonable to question some things. The point why something is questioned and whether there is good cause for doing so. And I still haven't found any place in the game, where it is revealed that the Harbinger crew found Kreia or anyone else dead on the Ebon Hawk only to see that person recover.

Right now my candidate would be Star Wars: The Old Republic

I think it does. Those lines are from the conversation on Malachor; if you ask Kreia about Revan, why he went there, she tells you that Revan came because he remembered what lay buried there, the academy and its teachings, and because Malachor is the threshold of the borders of the ancient Sith Empire. He came, and he left, without the ship and the droids "for he knew he would not need them." That tells me that the droids never saw the Sith Empire. If you believe Revan went somewhere else after Malachor and before going to the unknown regions, well, I wonder what makes you think that. Anyways, there's a line in t3m4.dlg that's probably plain enough: "You were at Malachor V. Revan left you there - and the Ebon Hawk. "

Big difference, though. EA is both a developer and a publisher. Obsidian is only a developer and does only work it has been contracted to do. Since they undoubtedly have a contract on every project, Obsidian is probably fine for now. The trouble comes once the current projects end and aren't replaced by new ones. I think that will hit other developers a bit more than Obsidian, though. TSL may be under fire for all the cut content, but never the less Obsidian finished the game (such as it is) in a timeline that was even cut short by the publisher. Publishers like that sort of thing.

Yes, I'd call EA firing 600 people pretty supportive evidence of the financial crisis having effect. Games now under development may not be scrapped, but I suppose most people can see why few would go out and invest in a new Playstation 3 right now. Those who haven't migrated yet will stay on the PS2 or choose Wii instead, I'd expect. Paying the mortgage and buying food comes before getting the new game console. New games will probably also sell less, because games aren't cheap on the consoles (where they really sell), so some deadlines may be pushed ahead and products in pre-production dropped. With a longer deadline, the developer can lay off people, because fewer can do the same work over a longer time. And there reduced sales due to lack of money among the customers means less releases, so that's why they'd stretch deadlines and releases. The market simply can't consume the product at the same rate anymore, because money is running short.

I don't believe Revan sent T3 back for the exile or anyone else for that matter. He just sent him back because he didn't want anyone with him. In fact, judging from the Bastila/Carth holorecording, it was actually Bastila or Carth (canonically Bastila) who made T3 come back and get the exile involved in galactic events in order to protect the Republic.

An Xbox TSLRP patch was in the plans for a long time, but was eventually dropped by Team Gizka. So it's either possible but too troublesome or the requirements involved deemed so demanding that the project was not feasible, I'd suspect.

I definitely think the gaming industry will be hit. Games are a luxury commodity, and those are the first hit when people run out of money - parents cannot afford to give in to the "pester power" of their kids as much as they used to, and mature gamers will likewise have less money for games and so be more choosy in what they buy.

Whatever George says goes. Period. Whether he bothers about Revan to the point of even being aware of the character's existence is a good question, though. But if George says there has to be a game to tie up Revan's fate, then there will be. If George says a movie must be made about Revan, then there will be. But he probably doesn't care either way...

He means the memory wipe. He speaks of the blaster shots during diagnostic, as he assesses his conditionm. Then, if you ask him what's the last thing he remembers, he mentions a memory wipe, for which Revan was supposedly responsible. Revan took both HK and T3 with him on the Ebon Hawk when he went to Malachor. Once he decided to fight the Sith on his own, he left, and the droids remained. When Kreia takes the ship to escape, they are both still on board. Thus, he must have met G0-T0 before Revan went to Malachor, and he must have been deactivated there. It could have been the Sith, Revan, or T3. Seeing just how hesitating the little guy was when asked about how HK ended up in pieces, I think he might have been the one. Maybe HK wanted to go after Revan, and T3 deactivated him. A sound explanation, but I do see a problem with it, though I cannot support my position with fact due to how little we actually about the events leading up the opening of the game. The main problem I see is that I don't agree Revan left the Ebon Hawk on Malachor. He was there, yes, and HK and T3 were there with him. But I've always taken the (LS) ending of the game to mean that Revan left for the unknown regions in the Ebon Hawk, and once he got there, he deactivated HK, then let T3 take control of the ship and sent him home. Revan did not want anyone to know where he had gone, and so he deactivated HK-47 AND wiped his memory, while he left T3 in control of the navi-computer. The navi-computer remains locked and accessible only to T3 throughout the game. As Carth says if you meet him, whereever Revan went, the Ebon Hawk has been there. I suppose that could possibly mean Malachor V, but I've always taken it to mean his final destination in the unknown regions. Besides, it's not as if the location of Malachor is that big a secret, the final climactic battle of the Mandalorian Wars having been fought there. That being the case, why would Revan bother to deactivate HK and wipe his memory? And if Revan did go to the unknown regions in the Ebon Hawk, then we have the problem of how Kreia gets aboard the Ebon Hawk. Because we know for a fact that she did not go with Revan to the unknown regions. "Because I did not know where he had gone. If he had asked... would I have gone? I do not know," Kreia admits at the end of the game. Note that we never learn how Kreia got onto the the Harbinger just before the game opens. She left on the Ebon Hawk, yes, but we don't know if she arrived on the Harbinger on that ship. In fact, the captain of the Harbinger is told in one of the cutscenes that nobody was onboard (I suppose T3 and a damaged HK don't count...). Kreia could have hidden or used stealth like the sith assassins did, but that still doesn't tell us that she arrived on the Ebon Hawk. She might have arrived on her own ship, on the sith ship (hiding from both the sith and the Harbinger crew), or she might even have gotten onto the Harbinger earlier. I don't believe G0T0 shot HK, nor do I believe they actually met in the face-to-face understanding of the word. Besides, G0T0 was apparently created around 3955 BBY, which is the same year Revan apparently disappears. Thus it would appear highly unlikely that the two ever met in person (if you can say that of droids), especially since G0T0 had probably not yet been "damaged" by his programming and turned into a criminal at that point. But they in the sense that G0T0 obtained HK-47's schematics and knows all about him. And naturally G0T0 feels he knows HK-47 from his later incarnations/generations as established on Telos by Revan. I would assume indirectly, however, that G0T0 is responsible for HK's damage in that the HK-50 units seem to have an inherent hatred of the "progenitor unit". The HK-50 unit hiding on the Ebon Hawk probably found the deactivated HK-47 and interpretated him more as a collection of junk parts of an earlier model than an actual unit of his own make. Consequently he probably had some "fun" blasting holes in the antiquated, broken version of himself. In fact, aren't there HK-48 and HK-49 cutscenes like that in the cut material from the HK factory?

Oh yes, this was great The jokes in this series are really good, while they can make the viewer take it a lot less serious - otoh, which sci fi series where the main party always ends up smuggling cows or dueling with swords or saving a "witch" from being burnt can take itself serious? Yeah, Whedon's sense of humor is great. I loved the movie too. Wash: "This landing is going to get pretty interesting..." Mal: "Define 'interesting' " Wash: " 'Oh God, Oh God - we're all gonna die' ?" Mal (to intercom): "This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode!"

Firefly was great - "Jayne... The man they called Jayne - he robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor..."

Aptly put. I share your sentiment

Hey, stop picking on that gizka! EDIT: In reference to the post below - I was kidding. My apologies if my sense of humor is poor.

No, you can't keep the upgrade. Even a jedi exile with light side mastery has no choice but to end the scene with removing it. However, as you can see in the cutscene on youtube, HK gets a stats boost (I forget what it is) from the experience. If you don't want to replay the game, I assume you can "cheat" by using KSE to give HK the pacifist package upgrade (the stats boost), watch the cutscene on YouTube, and then continue playing. But yeah, it still sucks.

Pretty sure it's a bug - they simply forgot to include the option in the alternate dialogue options. But yeah, it sucks to miss it. Not sure if the KSE can fix it, but I doubt it. But it's a fixed cutscene, so if you really must know how it turns out, look here: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=WoNyif8iURI

Sadly that seems unlikely to me. For one thing, SWtOR has hijacked the K3 plot. So even if it fails and LA decides to retrace their steps towards SP CRPG, there is virtually no way to recover the Revan and Exile vs. True Sith plot... It's dead, Jim.

Except me, of course. Seriously... "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." - Thomas Jefferson "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

Say, did we forget the one year anniversary for the most recent Progress Report on October 22? http://team-gizka.org/wip.html

A few things... Canderous Ordo = Mandalore (in TSL). Hence "Candalore". And never never went to Malachor V in TSL. The world is forbidden for mandalorians to set foot on. Bao-Dur's fate is entirely speculative. I've read that he was supposed to die on M4-78 (the droid planet), but I've never seen a credible source for that. He seems to have died from the video his Remote plays, though. Mira killing Hanharr (if LS exile) is entirely optional. She must fight him, but doesn't have to kill him. But yes, few deaths in the official (LSF exile) ending of TSL. G0T0 did die, though. The scene was cut from the game, but confirmed by the New Essential Guide to Droids. However, I must disappoint you - no KotOR3 for you or any of us. KotOR is dead.