Volourn

"Hey, what's all this NWN bashing for. Everyone says how dissapointing it is, but yet here everyone is, eagerly anticipating the sequel" Don't forget that this thread is about 'most dissapointing game'; not 'worst game'. I know some of the people who wrote NWN was 'most dissapointing' actually like NWN but they expected a Super Game so they were dissapointed. R00fles! :ph34r:

"Is it just me, or do the children in Bio games sound like adults?" Hmm.. I never noticed then; but soem 'adult" vocies sound like chdilren. ie. Listen to the NWN 'solar' one. Ha.

City of Arabel: I haven't played on this server in a long while so it may have changed. Rules are very hardcore, some intertesting quests, and neat DM 'events'. Crafting is up there. However, plenty of people on this server tend to think role-playing = sitting in town square and talking. Still, a solid if not deep PW. Dungeon Adventures: Combat oriented. This server has probably the deepest combat AI for any NWN server/mod, I have seen. The monsters and areas are quite varied and the enies will call for help, will "lure" PCs, use all manner sof special abilities ala called shot, knockdown, and parry. The spellcasters use their spells intelligently including buffing allies, and the like. Half the base spells have been changed (some stronger some weaker), feats have been changed, you name it. Magical items are vast and varied. For now, the server allows up to level 20 though theat might be chnaged in the future. Right now, the awesome owner is on "vacation" so not much changes going on right now but normally he's there for rquests and many changes have occured because he was askd to. Good stuff. Like I said, this is combat oriented so don't go there expecting deep role-playing though role-playing your character is encouraged... I'll probably add more later...

"Yes, but no drow children. No children where the bulk of the fighting was going to take place. " Eh. IIRC, you were in the NW inn for like 10 minuts of game play AND had a 'major' battle there. Not exactly combat free was it? "So, Bioware was lazy." Or, from a less anal person's point of view, they probably felt art resources were better off elesewhere then just making kiddies for other races. R00fles!

"It seemed that once the Infinity Engine was put to pasture every CRPG has been, well crap." So crappy that you rated the OC 75%, the two NWN expansions in the 80%, KOTOR almost 90%, have played MW for 400+ hours, have eben playing NWN quite steaidly for over 2 years, and were just bragging how much fun you were STILL having with the OC with mods. Hahahaha! R00fles!

"Volourn you have to change the store where you buy the games "te vieron cara de tonto" No. No, I do not.

"NWN was neither. And 90 Dollars? Are you including expansion?" $90+ just the original game. Looking back I've spent adecent amount of change on NWN in the last few years. $200 for the 3 games than another $70 for the Platinum Edition as I gifted my old copy to my brother for his second computer. Then about $100 on the various manuls/strategy guides. WOWSERS! Funny thing, it was all worth it even though it isn't perfect since I still play it lots 2 and a half years after its initial release. That's staying power! Anyways, I'd have to say DD was a dissapointment as well due to all the 'net hype for an actual RPG with it and all it was a wannabe Diablo with role-playing elements. LH wasn't bad though I didn't play it long. As for one who said people were expecting a BG with Special rules.. well, people were expecting that as that's what they were basically led to believe.. That is all. For now.

Huh? Did anyone of you actually play the game? You can *easily* flirt with fellow vamps in the game.

Didn't the NWN Inn have a child or two? If not, meh, still, there's a lot of so called 'mature' stuf in both HOTU and TOEE to destroy these claims.

"Zoq: Unfortunately, we have to go with NWN." That can occur often when expecting God's Gift To Gaming in a $90 game. R00fles!

"Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Torment/BIS?" Eh. Completely different scenario there. At the time, BIS/Interplay were BIO's publishers so it would only make sense that BIO would 'share' their engine(s) with them. Torment was a BIS game made on the BIO IE. Obviously, without BIo PST would not ahve existed or would have existed ina completely different form 9which may have actually made it better or not; who knows0. Just like without BIS/Interplay; BIO wouldn't have been able to make the BG games.. So, it all works out. I'm just syaing that it's obvious why Obsidian got 'tapped' to make KOTOR2. Sure, talent plays a aprt; but it also helsp to being buddies with BIO who didn't want to make the sequel themselves and reccommended Obsidian to LA and "allowed" them to use their engine (ie. licensed it out) and lent their expertise. I doubt LA would have chosen Obsidian - a new company - out of a hat.

Hmm.. Tough one.. There's quite a bit. I'd have to say various EA sports games. Most noteably NBA 2005. *shudders* <_<

"Bioware never gave Obsidian the game. LucasArts can do anything with KOTOR series." Don't fool yourself. There's a reason why Obsidian got KOTOR2; and that reason is Bioware.

CEP is overrated.

Yup. Anyone expecting the PC verison to be less buggy is joking themselves. Sure, they'll fix some of the bugs plauging the x-box version; but that will probably create other problems for the PC. Still, I don't think the game killing bugs are wide spread to completely worry about them; but still it is easy to understand how crappy it is if you get a buggy version of a game.

"I don't read reviews" Unfortunately for you, I doubt anyone here is gullible enough to take that statement seriously.

"I bet that's how the sims 2 got high score." I'd bet you'd lose that bet.

"but I'm just not going to support lousy QA by buying that product. If you don't care about that, it's your call. " Eh. It worked welle nough to finish it and I (mostly0 enjoyed the epxerience so yeah it was worth it. Obviously, you enjoyed it enough to finish it so really your hubaloo about its bugginess is just silly. If it's good enough for you to finish; it should be good enough to buy. Then again, you did rent it ( ) so it's not like you didn't put any money towards it.

To be fair, most years only have 2-3 actual top notch titles. It's not much of a difference, I think. BL is a good RPG, and worth the money. It could, and should have been a great RPG though. In fact, I'm dissapointed that I can't put it in my top 10.

"Complex magic system." This tells me nothing whatsoever. Complex how? 3 classes and all mages are not really that impressive. Destroying terrain is fun; but not exactly moving me role-playing wise. TB combat cna be good; but lacking physical combat (minus the warrior mage) the options may very well be lacking at leats until they explain the combat system in detail. Charcetrs may be good. Basically, to sum it up, we shall see..

"How may of you would say Bloodlines was the best PCRPG of 2004?" Eh. Considering I haven't played KOTOR2 (since it's not on PC yet); I'd have to say yes. Not much competition this year. <>

"but not necesarrily story wise" true. Story wise it's always a crapshoot. Espicially sicne story has nothing to do with the tech and is almost 100% opinion based on whther someone likes or dislikes a story.

Bah. Games have tended to get better. I expect that overall trend to continue though 2004 wasn't the best year. Some people have nostaligia twisting the past.

"The thing is I doubt there's much money to be made selling a Teen rated RPG" Eh? <_<

"...and..um..."kids"?" Yeah, this explains why kids were in NWN including HOTU. And, if you want, very much killable. R00fles!