Volourn

Geez. Like Fishboot stated, why are you guys harping on this fellow's graphic love. He is - once again - the Chief Visuals Officer. It's not his job to be concerned with story, controls, or anything else. It's all about graphics for him as it should be. Geez.

"Volourn thinks JE takes 20-30 hours to beat, and defends the NWN OC." Go play Dungeon Siege and Pools of Radiance 2. Those games are more to your liking, I believe.

"And Messier is NOT still one of the better players in the league. His stats over the last 5 or so seasons would make him an average player at best." Do you really want me to embarass you like I did with Lindros' stats? And, let's not forget the intantgibles that Mess can bring to a club on top of that. Again, the Moose may not be a top 10 player or even top 20; but he's surely one of the better players. Why? He's a player even now that any team would want to have on their club. Period.

"I'd rather see him in a real hockey town (where they can appreciate his greatness) than New York." Huh? New York is a REAL hockey town. Afterall, they sell out 99.9% of their home games and it's alreayd been decided by everyone that population size has NOTHING to do with it. Haha. And, oh, New Yorkers DO appreciate Moose. Do you even listen to them? The Mess is one of the most beloved NY athletes ever in ANY sport! Besdies, Toronto doens't deserve to have a proven winner until they prove the can win something again. Hahahaha.

He's still one of the better players in the league so bah to you. Besdies, he cna't tarnish his career as he's career has been phenomenal. NOTHING can chnage that. Even if he scores 1 goal and has 4 assists, and is -50 next season his career would still have been phenomenal. No one can take all his goal, assists, MVPs, all star games, cups, and leadership pizazz away from him. NOTHING!

"So Volourn, do you have the same opinion as most people here that the OC in NWN sucks?" I like the OC. It's no FO or BG or PST for sure; but it's not a bad little game. It definitely gets way too much flak in my opinion. It has some real bad points (resting, mass production of eqiupment, not a personable enough story from the PC's point of view) and good points (pretty good use of skills espicially comapred to most non FO RPGs, several quests, and character creation that only TOEE could rival)... Anyways, that's my opinion.

Someone wants Ranger fans to murder the Moose. That's diabloical, and is worth a prison term for conspiracy. Kor: Heh. Mess should be able to score 10 goals easily even now. 20 maybe depending if he atcually gets ice time. And, even in his last year, he was one of the better face off centers. " I wouldn't mind himbeing with the Oilers as they're a good secondary team to the Rnagers for the Big Apple Hero.

"yes, e'en NWN...you may like it" WOW! That's a positve outlook for you. (w00t) Anyways, I vote for JE and NWN. The other games suck, are ancient, or both.

Answer yes or else I'll think you are voting no just to be contary to my opinion. And, if your answer, state which team it should be? The Rangers where his home is, Oilers where his roots are, the Canucks where his personal curse began, or a whole new team? Obviously, being bias, I have to vote for the NY Rangers.

"The Eric Lindros that you see play the past 3 or 4 seasons has been mediocre at best (in comparison to other NHLers, not in comparison to say, my hockey skills)." Huh? He may have not been the best player in the league; but he's at least been better than half the league to be sure. Afterall, let's check out his stats: 2004 - 32 points in 39 games, +5, ranked 200th out of 940 players, all that in half a seasons 2003 - 53 points in 81 games, +5, ranked 82nd out of 888 players, not nearly as good PPG average but definitely not medicore in comparison to other NHLers 2002 - 73 points in 72 games, +19, ranked 17th out of 874 players, a pretty darn good PPG average, and stats include 37 goals Now, we can take out about 100 of those players because their goalies, and another 200 or so likely were part timers; but still he was most definitely not 'medicore'. Sure, he's nothing like the Eric Lindros of yesteryear; but unless something major has changed during the lockout, Monsiuer Lindros is still one of the better players. Top 10? Nah. I don't think I'd quite put him in the elite of the elite; but top 20 possibly, and most definitely top 30. Also, notice that amazingly he is a + in all of the last 3 seasons in spite of playing on a crappy Rangers team. edit: "I've never been a fan of Lindros after the whole draft thing where he refused to play for the Nordiques." That's a plus in my book. Everyone should have the right to refuse to work somewhere or should players be slaves to the draft? Geez.. How many other businesses are you actually forced to work at a very specifci workplace? I mean, imagine, if game devlopers had a draft.? Or restuanrants? Or lawyer firms? LMAO LMAO LMAO I win. Lindros wins. Those who make things up lose. Game over. Have fun. :cool:

Seriously, who said it was? I certainly didn't. I said population-market size DOES matter. I never said it was more important than 'team loyalty'.

"BG/BG2 was mostly Bioware," Eh BG/BG2 was ALL Bioware in terms of the characters (well... other than the previously established FR characters, that is).

Eric Lindros is awesome. It's one of the things Coach Bigot is right on. Though I agree his parents are a bit over the top.

"Size of the city is on no way as important as fan loyalty." Who said it was?

As long as there is no Kreia type character that is ruined by its obviousness, I'm game for it....

"How is he racist?" Ask him what he thinks of Europeans. "I think people need to be a little less sensitive." I think people shouldn't be racist/bigots.

"Gods" I thought you were an athiest yet here you are referring to multiple dieties....

"I like Don Cherry (racist?) " Racist, countriest, bigot. You call it, he's it. I can respect someone for speaking their mind; but remember if one speaks thier mind they have to deal with the cosnequences if their words betray them as scum.

"Which thread was this? If I didn't take part in it, then obviously I wouldn't know to look there." This is the last hint 'cause I have a funny feeling you are playing clueless on purpose. You just posted in it. It just got locked right after a post of yours. HINT: If it's in the game, it's in the game. That is all.

"And I guess I'm looking forward to the return of Hockey Night in Canada." I'm not. They focus too much on the Leafs and the other asanine Kanadian teams, the announcers are annoying, and Don Cherry while he can be entertaining is a racist scumbag. I much prefer TSN, and FOX as they actually have variet in teams, and better announcers (though TSN is much better in this regard).

*yawn* It does matter. It isn't the only thing that does. Understand these simple concepts and we'll get along great.

Nonsense. 1. I never said interest wasn't important. Obvious it is. In fact, I'd agree it's most important. 2. The above doesn't chnage the fact that market size IS important. This is basic econimics. The larger the market size the more potential customer base the business has. Geez.. This should be obviously; but basic example. You are opening up an ice cream stand and you have a choice of either an area of 10k or one of 50k. Where do you think you are likely to make more money? The 50k one, duh. Of course, putting a hoodwink into that is if the 50k town is, say, in Alaska wher eit is cold and the 10k area is in a hot desert. That makes it a more interesting issue where the size difference isn't as important as it once was. Basically, all things considered equal, market size *does* matter. Period.

Speed of attacks is the key. Not turns. You keep saying this yet trying toc laim it has to do with turn base combat when it has nothing to do with why your attacks are slow. Remember, some of the attacks are inherently slower than others ie. White Demon. Picking a specific character (model), btw, has nothing to do with character advancement since they're jsut models not actual characters.

Still stupid. Child molestion si wrong both morally (well... to most people, anyways) and legally while exclusive rights to a product is not. I have no inherent problem with Take Two having exclusive rights. I have a problem with take Two using those exclusive rights to make an inherently crappy game. If Take Two made an awesome baseball game, I'd be all for them. Don't confuse the issues.

"And you haven't offered up any explanation for why attacks sometimes pause and sometimes don't. The game behaves like a RT on TB system." I didn't have to as you did. Attack speed is the issue; not the turn. JE is not a turn base game. You are the first (and only) person to actually try to claim that it is. So, so, so silly.