Volourn

Bah. What a waste. Pittsburgh doens't deserve him. At least Toronto wants to win.

"Microsoft loses money for every Xbox sold, that should be proof enough. However, they gain money from their games (IE Halo 2 made 125 million in revenue the first weekend)." I know this. However, as you point out they have a solid reasoning for that. Lose money on the console, make money on the games. Very logical on their part. However, if they support games that have bombed, and finance sequels for the bombed games it lacks logic, and if MS is anything they are every logical and very wise when it comes to making money. I seriosuly doubt they would support JE, or any other game for that matter for a sequel if it bombed like the anti BIO guy implies. I seriosuly doubt that MS cares about BIo enough to through good money to support a comp[any that made a game that bombed. Then again, JE didn't bomb. That's wishful thinking on some people's part.

Yet you respond! Ha!

Every setting is the easy setting. "even if they lose money with that game." Proof, please.

"What's the point of ignoring the rest of my post to comment on just that?" The nonsense nature of this part made the rest of the reasonable post null and void.

"You're just annoying to the extent that it's impossible to actually have a debate or conversation with you on here because of you seem incapable of making points without a)getting condescending or b)making points that actually make sense." If you don't like it; ignore me then. Really easy concept. P.S. How well JE did in sells depends what you expect it do. It obviously didn't didn't do as well as KOTOR; but anyone who expected those kind of numbers were in LaLa Land. JE did sell hundreds of thosuands of units, however, and MS seems to have lots of faith in it consideirng they desperately want a sequel for it.

"Don't lecture me about Messier. I actually grew up watching the guy and he's been one of my favourite players since I started watching hockey (in the Mid-80s)" What's the point of this? This is a totally irrelevant comment that has no bearing on the issue.

Take it up with the moderators. You cannot die in KOTOR2 unless you purposely make yourself die by purposefully not trying. Just because you disagree with this doesn't make me a liar. Just because someone sees something differently than you does not make them a liar. However, your reaction does make you a crybaby who can't handle a differing opinions so you make false accusations just to cause trouble and hence that makes YOU the troll. Remember, you are the one who decided to get 'personal' from the get go just to get a reaction out of me hence that makes you a troll. You got a reaction out of me which makes me the trolled. Get your terminology right. So... what's your next trolling attempt going to be? Gonna call me stupid now and then accuse me of trolling when I make a retort? Uhuh.

"hopefully ticket prices will drop." They might short term; but long term they won't. " and I also think that as a Canadian game NHL should be owned by Canadian people" It's not a Canadian game. That's a myth. The US has been involved in the NHL for decades. Afterall, 4 of the 'original six' are Amerikan. Only a bigoted and arrogant Kanadian would actually think that we own the sport or the league. "....kinda like the president of the U.S.A has to be american sorta deal." Completely different scenario.

You call me a liar, and then accuse me of trolling? LOL

No.

You can die in JE. You cna't die in KOTOR2. Next.

Defensive? Nah. Just if you are gonna JE's difficulty with any game at leats compare it to a game that one cana ctually die in without trying. ie. Not the KOTOR series. :D You know, like Megamania. At least that game has a reaosnable challenge level unlike KOTOR2.

"Kotor 2 is an easy game. I've heard the Jade Empire is even easier, though I haven't played it." KOTOR2 is the eaisets game ever at worst, top 5 easiest at best. The only thing to remember in that game is press the attack button and you win. Game over.

"I guess Milan Micahelek it the most dominating player on the ice. He had a 100% shooting percentage in 2003-2004." What did he have? One or two shots? Don't be silly. Once again, I never said shooting percentage was the be all end all of NHL stats, doofuses. Use your brains or just admit you don't know what youa re talking about as shown below: "As for Mark Messier's point totals, it puts him tied at 116 with players like Ryan Malone, Steve Rucchin, Trent Klatt, Wade Redden, Henrik Zetterburg, and Ray Whitney." When these guys cna bring the same leadership skills, experience, and other intangibles that make up a player's quality then come talk to me about putitng them at Mess' level. Next retarded comment, please. The very fact that you equalized some dink named Ryan Malone to someone who has won 6 stanley cups is absolute proof that you have no idea what youa re talking about, Willis.

"Given last year's would-be-economy I might consider signing him for one year at 3 mil again." Aye. 3 mil is a good price for him. 2 mil as a low, 4 mil as a high. "Is he still in shape?" Yes. If he wasn't I doubt he'd even think of returning. "How did he spend the year off?" Keeping in shape like he does during all off seasons. In fact, he's said in the past he has to work harder at it so he atcually works harder at keeping in shape than ever before. "Does he want a long-term contract?" Doubtful. "I'd need to know those things if I were to decide to take him back." I'm sure the GMs would too. Actually, they had a little piece on him last night on Sportsnet. He hasn't officially mad eup his mind if he is returning let alone to where he'd want to. Though, I'd wager sinc ehe hasn't retired yet he isn't going to this year.

Hmm.. I think it's about 3 million. Not sure. However, he's actually a free agent so he's technically making nothing.

Is it because you think the logic sucks so bad or because of its brillancy? Heh. :D

"In reporting posts directly to the mods I got no response. That is why I made a public thread. I've waited over a week for a response directly from a mod. I did try that avenue first, respectfully." Ok. Rant away. You have my blessing; not that you need it.

Moderating (semi) bashing threads should not be made. It is wiser to address any moderation questions to the moderators through PM. They are likely to react more reasoanbly when you don't make a show to call them out in public. The rest of us, as well, don't need to see the moderator drama espicially when reasonable here on the Obsidian boards KNOW that the mods her are PERFECT. Thank you.

"but could have been quite good." I could have had billions of dollars if I ws Bill Gate's son. But, I'm not so I'm not. Duh.

"Perhaps I should have used "average" instead" So, the 'average' NHL skater (not counting goalies) gets 40-50 points a year. Uhuh. Just going by point totals shows at MINIMUM he is avergae. Add everything else into he is obviously one of the better players. "All it means is he was lucky enough to get the puck on his stick when there was an excellent opportunity to score." So shooting percentage is just luck? Riiigghhht!!! Afterall, it takes the player to get themselves in a position to score, and the intelligence to take smart shots. Shooting percentage isn't the most important stat (points, face off percentage for centers and plus/minus are my favorites for skaters); but to say it's the'goofiest' stat is just plain silly. The goofiest stats are ones like 'most major penalties in a season', 'most PIMs', and I'm sure if we did some diggin' we'd likely be reminded of even goofier stats since all sports have asanine stats that simply should be ignored.

Eh. Keep spinning. The stats you used proved nothing as you didn't contrast and comapre. It's easy to look at 40-50 points and say meh comapred to the past; but in the New Age NHL 40-50 points is definitely pretty good. You accused Mess of being a 'medicore' player which is obviously false if you knew what the word 'medicore' meant. Period. If Mess was so medicore teams like Detroit and Tornot wouldn't have been constantly rumoured to be interested in trading for him at the tradeline to boost their chances to win the Cup every year. Keep your ehad under the ice since it is obvious you know very little about hockey. It is nice you convinetly ignored my mention of shooting percentage and plau/minus, of course. Go figure.

"My main point was about Volourn saying he was still one of the better players in the league. That's just false." He is one of the better players. That doesn't mean he's in the top 10 or twenty. Those are the elite players. To me, 'one of the better players in the league' means you are a 1st or 2nd liner who gets 15-20 minutes a game, and are used in clutch situations. You seem to forget that point totals in the NHl are down across the board. And, as others have mentioned, there is a lot more than points to be used to determine how good a player is espicially in a league where a team has tos truggle to average 3 goals a game. For illustraion, the absolute best point producer in the league (St Louis) didn't even reach 100 points even while playing every game. 'Nough said. As for Lindros, you better look closer at where his points total puts him in the league. Lindros is still - when healthy - one of the better points producers in the league. Messier is one of the better players in the league. Period. If he plays, and plays more than 70 games I expect him to have AT LEAST 40 points which is pretty darn good in the NHL; if not 50 points. Also of note, is his pretty impresisve shooting percentage. When checking that out, remmeber goalies in the NHL average .900 save %. And, oh btw, Mess was a plus on the Rangers last year in spite of their crappiness. Go figure. Game over. P.S. The Rangers' main problems have been their GM/coach who is wayyy overrated, and their pathetic goaltending.

"It seems in both of these games your character can become ridiculously powerful and the game becomes too easy." KOTOR2 is easy throughout no matter what you do or use. JE is easy only if you use one or two moves that are over powerful. Jade Golem I look at you. "I also read that both of these games have terrible endings" You read wrong.