Volourn

BG series is dead. Dead, dead, dead. Why are you people playing with a corpse? BIO has admitted to the death of BG many years ago when they threw that dead engine in the trash wher eit belongs with all the other dead engines. LONG LIVE NWN AND AURORA!!! There's a reason why NWN is still getting patches and official content from the devloper and BG series isn't. One game is dead, the other is ALIVE!!! P.S. It's tiny as I just recently rebooted my computer. Plus, outside of my in progress never ending trying to finish modules, I don't play much user mdoules. I spend my time playing on a certain PW and working on my mods. P.S.S. And, oh, that other 'thing' that Hades implied is also very, very, tiny.

Normally, I'd agree but I'm simply over hyped by his media blitz (true; not completely his fualt). It's just that everyone made it seem he was the only noteworthy rookie in the league this year. Not to mention the brgaging of how he 9and Lemiux) were gonna kick butt this year. LOL I didn't really hear about Ovechkin or even Lundqvist despite him being a Rnager. Not to mention the handful of other rookies in the league. Heck, the Rangers have another rookie in Prucha who has more goals than Crosby (though he seems to suck at assists lol:P). Remember, I;m saying he's overrated not that he sucks. He's obviously a good, young player.

"Lundqvist is great too, but it seems like the Rangers are playing well in front of him as well." Compare his stats to the Ranger back up. The Rangers are doing well for only two reasons - Lunqvist, and Jagr. the rest of the team is doing well *because* of them. "I don't think he'll be able to got in the spotlight enough to win the Calder." This is sadly true despite his stats being pretty much on par (a little below) the best goalie in the league Hasek. heck, depending what happens for the rest of the seasons, Lunqvist has a fair chance of winning the Vezina (but probably won't either). The reason why I say Crosby is overrated is because he came in the league being bragged about how awesomely godly he was on the ice. He's been nothing but mortal. Is he having a good season? Sure. But, 90 points or so in new NHL is no longer that impressive; but Lundqvist's stats are. I could live with Ovichkin winning the Calder (just bearely) 'cause his stats and playa re actually impressive; but not Crosby. But, like I said, I'll be accused of biasness; but the stats back me up. Espicially since I was one of the many who thoguht the Rangers would suck this year. LOL :D

"My problem with the lizards is that Bioware made them appear to be this great one and only creator race which they are not. They are 1 of five and oneof those five are humans." Well.. They were concetrtaing on just that one. It was their tale; not the others'. I don't think they meant to imply the Lizardfolk were the *only* Creator Race but the only one that mattered in the story. "Also they got the whole time traveling wrong inthe Realms. There are only one way to travel in time in the Realms and that is use of time conduits which exist only in 3 locations. Mystryl made very very very strict rules about time traveling and Mystra enforces those rules fully." Rules are meant to be broken. In fact, Mystra herself is one who breaks them. "I think you're confusing mkreku and myself." My apologizes. (haha, I *do* apologize, R00fles!) For soem reason don't ask me why. I often get you two mixed up.

Ice age? Huh? BIO didn't make up the 'ancient lizards'. TSR did. Anyways, what was BIo (and subsequently Obsdiain) thinking when they didn't even *try* to make use of the D20 SW rules. At least in games like NWN, the IE games, or TOEE; there was effort to make it as close as possible. P.S. Not counting POR2 because... well.. that game si full of 'what were they thinkings'. R00fles! "Don't ruin this thread," Don't balme here for your actions. She followed the topic, and then you attcaked her by accusing he rof 'cheating' or 'she should play in god mode'.

"Ovechkin for Calder though!" I'm bias most likely; but the Rangers' Henrik Lundqvist is just as deserving if not more so. A 20-6-5 record, 2.14 GAA, .927 S%, and 2 shutouts (all near the top of the elague) is nothing to sneeze at in the new NHL espicially for a rookie netminder playing on a team that had missed the play-offs 7 seasons running with that team expected to be comeplet crap this year. He also managed to take away the #1 Golatender spot early in the season too. Ovechkin will likely win because he is getting all the hoopla along with the overrated Crosby. Though, Ovechkin is a worthy winner.

It can always use more. Anyways, as far as the ones listed goes, I'd have to go with GURPS and Rolemaster.

D&D will always be the first choice. Poll or no poll.

It's not the NHl's fault that the Leafs don't know how to play against Ottawa. Still, I agree that the new scheduling is far from ideal. To me, every team should play every other team twice a year then the exrat games cna then be used against divional opponetns any maybe some bonus ones against conference foes. But, the idea that one can wait years to play a particular team is silly.

And? We were disucsisng official campaigns, not time spent on one game. LOLLERS! So, you proved a point that wasn't being debated.

Plus, it's only been trakcing us for the last couple of weeks. I play this much NWN all the time. In fact, outside of playing certain games when they are released until i finish them, the vast majority of my gaming *is* NWN. If I had x-fire since NWN cam out, I'm sure I'd have THOUSANDS of hours of NWN played. Dunno, if that's bragworthy material though.

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No. But, then again, you'd know more thna me sicne you've played the OC more than I have. :D

Eh. NWN > all 2E games.

I found it worse than the first one. Pros - 3E rules, subraces, the collection of spells from the various IE games incluing its own, some underrated puzzles, a few cool quests, as close to a bugless game one cna hope for Cons - Boring story, unbelievable main villains (I felt no pity for them even though it was obvious you were meant to), easy combat, some overrated puzzles

"Never played IWD2 but did play the first and enjoyed it greatly. " Yeah, IWD was very good game for what it was. IWD was simply a fun game with its sahe of challenging battles that made sense. As for it story, i think its no better or worse than NWN's. It was a solid duo demon dynamic. I think the OC's main villainess had more depth and interesting aspects to her character that many miss.

I find negatvie ad campaigns silly. Nothing to worry over there. As for Kanada-US relations, I think many Kanadians including politicians should group up and stop being so childiish or arrogant. Contary to what Kanandians think, we're not 'better' than our Southern neighbours.

Heh. That's the thing with the NDP. I don't hate them. And, if theyw ere to somehow win the elction I certainly wouldn't cry about it; but they just don't have the pizazz to make me *beleive* in them. Tru about posisble future Harper scandals. It's just that, I'd feel off if I didn't vote for someone just because he *might* be corru[t in the future when his closest competition are known to be guilty. I await the day where I can vote Liberal again as, overall, the party is closer to my beliefs than Harper is though It, oo, beleive that too many Kanadians look down on the US to an almost fanatical degree. Mostly because of an inferioty complex since we lap up their culture and have basiclaly made it our own. Heh.

"I suppose, but I just don't want Harper to make us, to use your term Alanschu, a midget version of the U.S. In the end, I guess somekind of a friendship with them would be alright." Well.. In all fairness, in many ways Kanada is headed that way anyways in many aspects and not so in others. "Still not voting Conservative though, because I don't share Harper's beliefs." Fair enough. I also have some disagreemnt in some of his stance slike his anti gay marriage thing; but sadly, I much more opposed crooks being in office. And, the NDP reminds me of a heckler shouting as loud as possible just to be heard. Heh.

"I wonder if you actually played it. There was a known bug, that the developer admitted to, that deleted important system files when uninstalling the game. You wouldn't be able to start your computer after uninstalling the game. Odd how you were the only person that didn't seem affected by this." I heard about this bug. I installed than uninstalled the game with no problems. And, no, others didn't get hit by it either. Many did; but not everyone, and I evens eriosuly doubt the majority did. Like everything (much like the x-box 360 is a fire hazard hoopla) it got overhyped. OMG It erases your OS! oh nooossss!!! I'm not denying the bug exists as it obviously does.; but it didnb't effect everybody. As for 'not playing the game', heck, POR2 was the first game (sadly) that I bought the Collector's Edition for. Bad, bad, bad mistake when the extras are more wortwhile then the actual game... edit: that's why. I didn't use Norton at the time..

"won't vote Conservative, because if Harper gets into parliament he'll ban gay marriages, and kiss Bush's ass like there's no tomorrow." Rather that then stealing Kanandians' money like the Liberals have been PROVEN to have done. This Chicken Little of accusing the PC Party of extremism is silly, and is quite obviously fialing. It reeks of desperation. As for him 'kissing Bush'; it's better that than the hypocrisy of the Liberals when it comes to their (non) relationship with the US. R00fles!

Patches help, ya know. I finished the game even before or maybe jsut after (can't quite remember) the patch came out. Haven't played it since so I'm sure with the patches the game is more linent. Chances are those who aren't getting hit by bugs didn't buy it when it first came out. Except for Numbers U, who got the perfect copy. R00fles!

"With PoR2 out there, how can anyone compete for buggiest game ever?" I didn't get hit by too much (if nay) bugs for POR2. Then again, it didn't take me long to uninstall it simply because it was crappy. "Your experience is irrelevant. Your experience, your perspective of things isn't a universal truth. I had zero problems with BL the first time I played through. I suspected I hadn't experienced the Leopold crash, but I couldn't confirm it. Now I can. Slowdowns and poor performance are not bugs. That's just unoptimized code, and people with newer hardware don't experience them. Unoptimized code doesn't count as a bug. As I said before (and you obviously failed to understand, I'll try only monosyllabes next time), there have been examples of games where very serious bugs affected everyone, not just Volourn. Those games were much more buggier than BL, to the point that some of them were unplayable right out of the box." What's this I see? LOTs of crying by a crybaby. LOTS of people have complained about BL's bugs - both severity and number. And, oh, let's do some Pot. Kettle. Black. Just because yous eemingly had a completely unbuggy copy of Bl doens't mean others were as fortunate as you. All one has to do is look at the number of complaints about BL and take it into the account that it wans't exactl a bests eller. The game wa sbuggy. It was most definitely one of the buggiest games ever. Noty quite Daggerfall bad, but not far off either. Now, continue your whining. It's quite entertaining. " there have been examples of games where very serious bugs affected everyone" Really? The fact you think you can claim 'anyone' shows that you are making things up. as ther eis no way to confirm this. At all. Nice try though with your hyperbole.

"Which proves my point. There have been games that were buggy for everyone, with much more serious bugs than a memory leak or poor performance, if that can be considered a bug at all. BL was buggy, but it wasn't "one of the buggiest games ever". That's nonsense." No. It's one of the buggiest games evar. Lots of people had major problems with BL bugs. It wans't just one, or two. And, besides, I don't care if you had absolutely no problems with it. MInmy epxeirence - and, yes, I've tried games like DF - it very much is one of the buggiets games ever. I had tp fight with the game to finish it, and no, it's not my computer. Crashes, slowdowns (ooo the slowdowns), and various bugs all made the gaming experience worse than it should have been. Even FO2's bugs wer enowher eenar as bad. In fcat, FO2 had one notable annoying bug. R00fles!

"NWN is a single character adventure hack with an awful campaign and awesome mods." No. Ok campaign with more as much if not more role-playing than BG2. And, definitely more than BG1. Most mods are not so good, many are good, and a few are great. Also, NWN is not quite a single character. It's a single PC + party just like BG. Of course, in the OC and SOU it's 1 npc. In HOTU, it's two.