Volourn

"How have the masochists on the Bioware DA forum taken this massive slice of anti-climatic pie?" Whine like crybabies kinda like in this thread. L0L I didn't know gaming fans were 5 years old? L0L "since they basically treat their customers as idiots." Threads like this one are evdience that 'customers' are idiots. btw, BIO woes nobody nothing here. Not one person that I know of as bought DA. Stupid people, for some reason, expecting tons of info even thoguh BIO never claimed there would be - just that there be an update.

No.

"Either that or stroke their favorite gaming company" Actually, I like any company that angers internet geeks. It's why I support Bethesda everytime someone whines about FO3 despite me loathing Bethesda and their garbagey games.

Internet geeks love to whine. L0L Kudos to BIo for successfully doing this awesomely. The pimpage DA has gotten is awesome, and they had do nothing but a small blurb. HAHA!

KOTOR is an overrated (but okayish) joke. Even some of the worst mods are better than KOTOR simply based on having better combat. L0L And, NWN's graphics are vastly superior to the IE. It's embarrasing just to read otherwise 'cause it's illogical to think that people actually think that's true. L0L In comparison: BG graphics = NWN graphics -

"That it was. Those fugly graphics didn't win it any awards either." better graphics than the IE games. No contest.

"NWN1. Worst Bioware game so far." Nah. that's KOTOR. and, besides, you beat the OC 3+ times. Couldn't have been that bad. L0L "I don't disagree that a substantial amount of BG1 was hack and slash, but I don't recall the NWN oc being any less so. But I haven't played either for a very long time so..." Many NWN OC quests had multiple ways to complete/approach them unlike BG1. Still, overall, BG1 was a better game; but role-playingw sie, NWN OC hands down. KOTOR is BIO's 'worst' game but it wans't bad either.

YUeah. I actually agree witH GOA on this...

"Another thing I didn't like about ME is it blatantly spit out info on the main plot really early. You quickly learn about machines coming every 50000 years to kill everyone and that kinda ruins whatever mystery there was." Well.. to be fair.. ME's main plot point about the machines was spoiled by the advetrising as soon as the game was announced. In fact, that's my biggest beef with the game (horrid inventory aside) is that the basic whole story was spoiled before even turning on my 360. L0L

Come on, now. I'm not KOTOR's biggest fan; but it's at least okay. BG, BG2, NWN, JE, and ME were/are awesome. Unless youa re talking about either MDK2 or SS which I haven't played I have to disagree they've made one bad games.

It is a dungeon, and an awesome one at that.

L0L, Consideirng all the bashing BIO getsa round these parts; people are so desperate for more info on their next game. 5pm est... Hurry up, BIO! The peasants are revolting!

"It all had to do with how observant you were. Following all the clues and poorly planned foreshadowing." Actually, to me, the best twists are the one you cna figure out before hand. Twists that come out of nowhere are illogical, and dumb.

Proof, please. Nobody here knows how much game must sell to be considered a 'success or failure'. Only those in the know would know these required mythical numbers. Are you 'in the know'? No, I don't think so. Only EA, and BIO know how much their DA would need to sell to be a financial success for them.

"So please, Volourn, stop saying ME is better than KotOR. Not only is it a matter of perspective, but you don't seem to have anything else to say about it other than " ME > KOTOR" As long as people are spamming falsehoods about KOTOR's 'qualities' in a ME thread thahn ME > KOTOR is all that is needed. ME has better role-playing, better writing, better characters, better story, better universe, better combat, better character system, better dialogue, better ending, better graphics, bettter music etc. etc. The only thing KOTOR does is have better inventory and not by much. ME > KOTOR

"ME is a console shooter" ME is an ActioN RPG, and is a supeiror RPG than your precious KOTOR series which is overrated. "Also I think you need to sell close to 2 million (before price cut) just to break even on a big budget game these days." Proof, please.

It's all about team owneership/management. Detroit has that in spades. Edmonton does not. And, the Pens are so good now because their management/team was horrid for so many years they got all the top picks. L0L

"Did you say 6k in 6 months? Did you mean 600k" Yeah. oops. 6K would be horrid...

ME > KOTOR There is no doubt espicially in a ME thread. No matter how much the interlopers claim otherwise.

"Jade Empire didn't sell that well." "JE still sold a couple million, I believe." JE sold 6k copies in the first 6 months of xbox release. Between the xbox and PC releases I'm sure it sold at least a million. Probably no more than 2. JE was a solid szeller; but no 'blockbuster'. It definitely was no failure like some goofs try to brag about. Failures don't ge ported. (as opposed to being co devloped huge difference).

But, there's a huge difference between 2-3 nmillion and 5- million. Sims, and BG both sold 'millions'.

"Dragon Age would sell millions of copies" Define 'millions'. It'll be 1-2 mil, 3 mil tops.

"They're nothing like each other. KOTOR had narrative and universe implemented into gameplay, great characters, great dialog,interesting story, interesting art design, a lot of variety, relatively open levels, and most importantly great quest design. ME has a cliched and nonsensical narrative, universe is hardly explored in game and is confined to reading the codex and the exposition of boring NPC's, party characters you talk to only 3-4 times, most of them boring, horrible repetitive and generic art design, the gameplay is mostly on rails and consists almost entirely of meaningless dialog/exposition alternating with shooting, the quest design ranges from mediocre to atrocious with only a couple of exceptions. Moreover the whole game feels shallow, threadbare and gives the impression of corners being cut everywhere." reverse this, and you'd be telling telling the truth. ME > KOTOR

'I'd be surprised if Bio ever does another DA unless DA is a huge hit somehow." Well, depends on what you mean by 'huge' hiut. i figure DA will sell between - 2 mil copies.