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Of course, you only die if the whole party is wiped out, anyways. *shrug* One of the lamest things about DA that it stole from the overrated KOTOR.

"(This is, of course, entirely ruined if all the spells are explained in painstaking detail in appendix III of the game manual.) Great wizards like Gandalf and Obi Wan (orig. trilogy version) are intruiging to a large extent because the reader/viewer has no idea what the extent and nature of their powers are. " Horrible examples. Books/movies don't come with game play rules that the player/viewer can know. In games, there's a set of rules/guidelines for this kind of stuff so unless the DM 9ie game devloper) 'cheats'; there'll be a lack of mystery in that regard for us players (notwithstanding if we ecounter spellcasters more pwoerful than our controlled characters). That why D&D magic doens't have the 'mystery' you want because there are rulebooks detailing how said spell system works. It's a game. It ahs to have game play and hence rules. And, as a player, I'd like to knbow the rules before I play. This is different, of course, than having to know everything about everything. "That rather depends on how you define 'low magic' doesn't it??" And, like I said, it's not gonna be low magic. My standards for that is too high.

That's because he didn't create them. He borrowed them from other sources. Sure, he twinked them, but still not original. Hobbits are - whcih I even said so above. The point is A LOT of ME is heavily borrowed from older sources making it NO DIFFERENT than D&D/FR in that regard. Period.

Looks like crap. The graphics are as gray and drab as MW's was crappy brown. Disgusting. And, the enclave have been reduced to nothing but enemies to kill. You'd think they'd wnat to capture you to find our where your vault is (if they don't know); but nooooo.. LAME.

Let me guess.. it's okay for Tolkien to 'steal' ideas, creatures, and whatnot from avrious sources but wrong for others? Whatever. Tolkien heavily borrowed stuff too. Big deal. Orc(Orks) (whatever you want to call them), and Elfs existed beforehand. He just refined them to fit his world. Just as D&D did. Big deal. And, both Tolkien and D&D creators were successful in doing so. *shrug* Plus, Tolkien is overrated. Solid writer but that's it.

"Volo, FR stole a lot from Tolkien - orcs, elves etc. - so get over with it." Orcs, and elves were around before Tolkien.

DA will not be low magic. This is a myth. DA will be awesome though no matter how much magic is in it. And, yeah, the origins will be superior than TOEE's. Though, that's reather easy to do. L0L

As long as people are going to go coo coo over a teaser trailer, and bash the aweesome DA and FR game, and setting.

"We wanted to create a forum for fans' voices to be heard," Adam Rolfson, 36, told The Associated Press by phone. "I don't understand how you deny somebody that threw for 4,000 yards (last season) a starting position. I can think of at least 25 teams in the NFL that would jump at the opportunity to have Brett Favre be their starting quarterback." This alone is enough to prove that GB owners are retarded. They'd rather go with an unproven loser with a guy whose had greta success and had a fantatsic year last. Either start him or trade or release him. Period.

"As for your FR comment, you do know FR -STOLE- a ton from LotR" Nah, most of what the Fr 'stole' from LotR come from earlier more general sources. Nice try, though. And, there is no 'low magic' setting in computer games (not coutning those with no magic, of course). Unless your defintion of low magic is vastly different from REAL role-players like myself. P.S. DA AND FR ARE AWESOME! DOWN WITH THE PATHETIC MIDDLE EARTH DWARFS!

Newc wins in a slam dunk.

So.. GB has decided to be jerkoffs in this. Talk about spitting on the guy. He wnats to play le thim play. Talk about dispectful. But, hey, I guess he made a cardinal sin - he changed his mind and wants to unreture. Man, that brett Favre. What a Devil? I say they should play him, trade him, or release them. GB are scumbags! "He went out with a bang last year, at the top of his game." Yeah, an interception that cost his team the NFC championship! 'Top of his game'. L0L "Now he'll probably go out as a washed out has been." Impossible.

"I care, because that's been one of the biggest selling points," O RLY? That's one of the big selling points? Doubtful. I woudl think combat, characters, dialogue, the universe, game play, and all that other stuff are all bigger. You are telling us the ability to play Shepard in all 3 games is just a simportant? I doubt it had that much effect on sales either posiitve or negative. L0L That said, I think, playing Shepard as is in ME2 is gonna be lame. You are level 50+, and by then all your abilities are near maxed out so unless they put some new uber abilities (which would be lame), theres' gonna be a lack of character development...

"Tolkien's stuff largerly came from mythologies - especially celtic ones - not earlier fantasy books." HA! Mythology in the way you use it is just another word for fantasy. "Middle-Earth is still most carefully constructed fictional world that has ever been done. FR is just mismash of stuff people making it thought would give enough variety for DM's to make intriguing campaign." FR > ME FR dwarves are actually worthy of the dwarven mantle and are actually varied and not stuck in some tight stereotype of retardedness. Not to mention the patheticness of elves. Only the muppets... err.. halfings... in ME were done better than their FR counterpart. "In the process they destroyed anything else." FR is awesome. If ME is so awesome, you'd think the pnp game based on it would be more popular than D&D/FR. But, oh yeah, it's not. GAME OVER.

"The witcher sucked. And that scenerio if you choose to save the witch you got to bang her" L0L, That's deep. "You played it wrong. You could sleep with her before making the choice in question." L0L, deeper still. To bang first or to bang later. R00fles!

FR IS AWESOME! DA IS AWESOME! ORIGINALITY IS OVERRATED! TOLKIEN IS OVERRATED! Besides, REAL hardcore fantasy buffs know that Tolkien 'stole' 'borrowed' 'was influenced by' earlier fantasy pieces such as MERLIN! r00FLES!

"You'll have to decide for yourself whether you think it's as good as PS:T. But it's easily one of the best stories in a contemporary RPG." Nowhere enar PST. TW's writing is horrid. The story was just plain useless. Throw in a one dimensional main character, and gameplay that maybe is on par with KOTOR it makes for a poor combination.

This si what Trokians, and Glagshipians get when they leave their parent company bragging how about they were the awesome ones. L0L Out. Of. Business. Obsidian surives because they made BIo sequels first. HAHA!

"Witcher did low fantasy great" Wicther is overrated. Just another KOTOR. Gets way too praise for absolutely no reason. A decent game that is embarrasing to read about in a thread dedicated to an AWESOME DA teaser.

F"R is the nadir of derivative fantasy." Bull. It has similarities; but it also has quite a bit that sets it apart from trash like Tolkien. yeah, I said it. Trahs. (in comaprison, not overall). Just because dwarves, and elves exist in the Realsm doesn't mean the setting is nunoriginal, NOOB. Anyways, DA's graphcis are superior to BG's in EVERY BSINGLE WAY. Only an IE fanboy living in the late 90s would think otherwise. L0L {"You waited four years for thier E3 teaser? I'm sorry to hear that." Oh SNAP!

The graphics are awesome. Plain, and simple. the character mdoels look great. That's a fact jack. I don't care if the characters aren't supermodel pretty. It's good that they are 'realistic'. Nothing drab about them. Period.

Looks awesome. What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

More like FO1+2 influence which Bioschock was influenced by whether intentionally or not.

I said no such thing. There's no reaosn to bring D3 into this DA thread. D3 is a punk and deserves to be spit on. Wannabe RPG that it is. L0LLIGAGZ!

Not a bad teaser. Graphics look solid; but not gonna learn anything about the actual game from it nor did I expect to. Short of course; but oh well; anyone who expect 30 minutes of footage for delusional anyways. Hopefully, E3 will start the real push for information instead of just marketing.