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Nah. I don't go around proclaiming myself judge, jury, and executioner in a dismal future.

"disagree, the witcher was epic!" No. No, it was horrible. "the fact is that the majority of gamers that are bashing the AP ; are like you Bioware hard to die fans that are really blind idiots to appreciate other RPG that are not made by yours RPG's god." I haven't bashed or praised AP, actyually. I said it ripped off ie. looks a lot like ME . 8shrug* For the record, I like quite a few non BIO RPgs including Obsidian's own NWN2 and KOTOR2. Go figure. Don't be ignorant. "BTW, The quote function in the forum work great." I use quotation marks when quoting others.. just as we all were taught to do in school. Deganidwa: I don't believe cowards who don't have the guys to share their name when bashing something.

Must explain all the times schools are embarassed in court or before even reaching court ebcause they think they're above the law even though they are not. They are not above the law no matter how much you wish they were.

"LOL i am not a fan boy maybe you are a Bioware fan or Bethesda fan...the fact is that i love Bioware / Bethesda RPG's but that doesn't make a blind idiot to not enjoy another RPG made for other devs. " Your comment doesn't make sense. You accuse him of being a BIO or BETH fanboy 'cause he bashes an Obsidian game then claim that you yourself love BIO/BETH yet enjoy Obsidian games. That's a rather poor accusation as it's illogical. The fact he may be a fan of BIO/BETH is irrelevant as your existence proves. For the record, I am a BIo fan, a Beth hater yet I like Obsidian just fine.

"You do realize that AP entered production before ME was released, right" You do realize that ME was released 2-3 years ago right? Heck, ME's sequel came out before AP. No doubt that ME has influence on AP. The interviewes, and previews even suggest it. Even Obsidian themseves have compared the two games in the past. There'sa m reason when AP was first annoucned pretty much everyone went, "Oh, that was ME influenced!" It's beyond obvious. Nothing wrong with that on itself since ME itself is hevailyn influenced by multiple sources. *shrug* Don't take it too personally. The point is, I can't feel that sorry for Obsidian when people mention other games and developers when they themselvess have basically pushed the comparisons.

You can't guarantee anything of the sort unless you are judge on the case. Don't be so ignorantly arrogant to assume your opinion is agreed upon byu everyone 'cause as evidenced by this thread it ain't.

"Others have said decisions here are actually meaningful unlike say, Mass Effect where it's the same thing, the only choice is how nice you say it, which is nice" ME has lots of meaningful choices that effect outcomes. "AP should be reviewed as the unique RPG that it is..." Except it isn't really unique. "The only thing the majority of reviewers are doing is praising other Devs instead of Obsidian." It may not be nice to Obsidian; but it's fiar since Obsidian largely brought it on themselves with their goal to be BIO Jr from making sequels to popular BIO games and even AP which *should* be its own game is basically a rip off of ME. (shrug* That said, it's simple, if you like Obsidian you'll like AP. I'm sure I'll like it fine when I finally play it.

"RPG's usually have sub-par combat," Not true. Not the good ones. Even ME2's combat which I felt was dumbed down had at least adequate combat. The KOTORs hasd simple combat but at least was fun. TOEE, a game I overall dislike, had a great combat system. The FO combat swere a blast. The IE combat was fun as heck. Etc., etc. This myth is simply not true.

Law > School This is a fact. This is why schools get slammed all the time, sued, and embarassed. They have a tendency to think they're above the law though they are not.

"Also, please use the quote feature in the future, it would make your posts much more readable." I always use quotes. Real quotes like this: " , not fake ones.

"That would be a pretty stupid thing to do, though." Not as stupid as allowing mass murder go uncontested. "With a media fully controlled by the State & spouting propaganda 24/7, they're all hopelessly brainwashed. They're led to believe the outside world is evil and out to get them, similar to '50s Soviet Union. Invading such a country might even trigger the population into full guerilla mode." There is absolutely no evidence what you just posted is true. There is no evidence that the majority of NK are in love with their 'esteemed' leader. " I suspect that North Korea is the one place where the population really will, unlike Iraq, welcome the S. Korean and US armoured columns trundling beyond the 38th parallel. " Most of Iraq wleomced the toppling of Saddam. They even welcomed the US to a degree. They did not welcome the absolute poor planning by the US an co post war, hwoever. Let's not forget that the majority of attacks against the US in early post Iraq waere done by Saddam supportyers (barring that one Shi'ite fellow's gang) and AQ. And, now, it's largely AQ. And, most of these attacks target Iraqis not Amerikan soldiers. Plus, unlike Iraq, the US didn't lie about helping NKeans ala how Bush Sr and his allies did with Iraq in the First gulf War. That betrayal also likely wasn't forgotten.

The post you replied never suggested one did.

Then what works? Outright war does.. do you want that?

You mean a rather poor one that could be found out before she even joined the party? L0LZ

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"I can answer that: under Saddam, there wasn't as much religious fanaticism as there is today. No suicide bomb attacks and nothing similar to the Taliban's regime (there were a few similarities in the severe punishments but those were inflicted for disloyalty against Saddam and not Islam)" 1. Suicide bombings are not a new occurance. In fact, Saddam paid families on behalf of dead suicide bombers. Let's also not forget that the m mkost famous suicide attack occured before Saddam was ousted. Let's also not forget that the vast,. vast, vast majority of terrorist attacks are usually perpetrated by non Iraqis. Iraqis tend not to target outside their country. 2. And, what does the fact that violence under Saddam was for him and not religion matter? Violence is violence no matter the reasoning. 3. Saddam's regime was very much like the Taliban's. Both were dictatorships, and both ruled with iron fists. 4. While Saddam was no no super religious freak himself, he surely used religion to benefit himself and moitivate others to do his bidding. Just check in the whole Sunni vs Sh'ite mess, the way the Kurds were treated unde rhis rule, how other religions weretrounced until theyw ere such a small minority they no longer mattered, etc, etc. "Al Qaeda was not that much present in Iraq." And? "Now, it has rooted itself and uses the American invasion as a justification to start a holy war and get new recruits." That doesn't make sense. Iraq didn't create this or AQ. AQ existed well before the Iraqi invasion. To make the argument that AQ uses Iraq as the excuse for a 'holy war' is silly since the so called holy war was already on. or did you forget that 9/11 occurred BEFORE the Iraq invasion... right? Kind of ruins your entire message that Iraq is the cause of it. " Expect Iraq to become another Afghanistan with its own version of the Talibans, once the Americans leave." So... it'll be just like itn was under Saddam. Religious or not, Saddam wa sno better than the Taliban. The fact you think he was some awesome dude is silly. HE DESTROYED IRAQ. "Because it was a lot more stable." No, it wasn't. This is a myth perpetrated by Saddam apologists.Iraq was anything but a stable country under Saddam. Saddam didn't have control of the entire country... that's how pathetically weak he was, and how pathetically poor of a ruler he was - dictator or otherwise. " instability breeds discontent," Yup. Which is why there were A LOT of unhappy Iraqis under Saddam hence his need for body doubles, and the number of asassination attempts. " which creates terrorism and extremism." Yup. And, Saddam was an extremist himself. Just ask yourself how he gained power - by murdering his predessor. *shrug* " Crazy arab dictators attacking each other is nothing new, it existed before saddam and it will exist after him." Stating obvious doesn't mean anything. " A huge country without stable government or agenda is a perfect environment for growing terrorist cells." I agree. Hence why Iraq was in a hjorrible place under Sddam. The new Iraq is a better Iraq. For Iraq, and the world. But, hey, come talk to me when Iraq starts another multi year war with Iran. K? Iraq is not is Pakistan. P.S. Saudi Arabi has been 'stable' for many years yet many terrorists come from there. Kinda ruins your logic. Just Saddam love is hilarious.

"Thank you, virumor. That's what I meant to say and I apologize if I wasn't clear. The US told Iraq "go on, attack Iran and we will back you up" but the US never held their word." Don't blame others for Hussein's choices. "Iraq under Saddam was a lot less dangerous to the world than Iraq under USA." O RLY? How is the new Iraq more dangerous to the rest of the world than Saddam's was? Saddam attacked two soverign nations. He paid others to attack other nations. The new Iraq has attacked nobody. So, again, how is the new Iraq a bigger threat to the world than Saddam's Iraq? Silly talk. "US just talking crap." How is the 'US' talking crap? It's SK that is pushing things, and nobody in power in any country has said we should go to wwar with NK pronto. Don't make stuff up.

"If Vin was just a mechanic working at the retailer around the corner earning minimum wage, he wouldn't be anywhere near as "hot" to them." That's silly. If Disele was 'just a mechanic around the corner', most women wouldn't have never heard of him anyways so it would be irrelevanthow 'hot' they think he is. As we know, looks are one of the top things Hollywood looks for. Wouldn't be surprised if some casting director saw him doing whatever and said he has that 'look'.. or the same thing applied when he first auditioned. 8shrug* He didn't get to where he is by accident. Women think he's hot because they think he's hot. It's that simple.

" The great things in ME2 all had to do with the companions and their quests " That *was* the main plot.

"Whether democracy is good for a country should be decided by the people themselves, and without the constant Western brainwashing about universal value and such. When people really want democracy, they'll fight and die for it. Otherwise, they value something else higher. " Good to know. iraqis have fought for democracy. In fact, they did so in the original GW but the Western countries led by Bush the first betrayed them because they kowtowed to the other ME countries who wnated to keep propping the pathetic Hussein - in fear that agttention would turn next to them. As for talking about 'constant Western brainwashing'. That's laughable to accuse the West of that when that's one of the main tools of dictators. Heck, in most Western nations there's so many counter voices being heard it's hard to brainwash people. You wanna know why? People tend not to get murdered in most ciivlized countries for voicing opposition to the government. Just ask all the anti Bush people who claimed that he was a dictator in the making... as they still live free and able to speak. or all the anti Obama continghent who are legally allowed to spout some of their insane stuff. You surely wouldn't see that sort of thing in countries like NK... or else the person would 'vanish'. Brainwashing. L0L "When people really want democracy, they'll fight and die for it. Otherwise, they value something else higher. " Nonsense. Soemtimes, people are simply too weak to fight. Sad, but true. Stop living in Fairy tale Land where the goodm side always comes out on top.

"As for Iraq being better off with Saddam. Yes, I believe that. There weren't as many suicide attacks, or even deaths at his time." You should do some research. A lot of people died uner his watch, and those who didn't lived under horriblem conditions. He destroyed the culture when at its height, Iraq was considered a 'beacon of the ME'. Saadam's leadership destroyed that. Nobody else. It's ALL Saddam's doing. "If it wasn't for the US that incited Saddam to declare war against Iran, nothing would have happened." Baloney. Don't believe the US (or anyone else) for Saddam's actions. He was a grown man. He chose to go with Iran and in the process destroy his country. He chose to waste his country's coffers and mkake them go broke so they had to borrow money from otyehrs which led to his invasion of Kuwait which led to major sanctions which crippled hsi country even more. This is all Saddam's doing. He was one who chose to be a dicator so he shoulders the responsibility his country's collapse. "I never claimed it was a Happy place, but they were still better off compared to today's situation." No, they weren't. "As a matter of fact, there weren't even nearly as many people dying every day." You believe that silliness all you want. Iraq's war with Iran led to many Iraqis dying not to mention the mass murders, and the starvation. And, a lot of the deaths and troubles in current Iraq are largely due to Saddam's actions. The fact that Iraq's army folded like a cheap violin shows what kind of a piss poor leader he was, and how he completely demoralized his country. Saddam broke Iraq, and it's up to the rest of Iraq and their allies to put the pieces back together. Of course, it's a mess. It's a mess that Saddam made, and messes that big don't get fixed overnight. "That's hypocritical IMHO..." No, it isn't. It's self interest, and like all countries, it's about what you can do for yourself first and second what you can do what do you others. Question, outside of giving money to suicide bombers' families, what has Saddam ever done for other countries/ The US has done a lot for others. The problem with Saddam is that his choices were never best for Iraq. Not one. It was all aboutn what was best for him.

" This forum is the only gaming forum I've been to where it hasn't been the case 100% of the time. " This is a silly comment not based on fact. This forum is no different than the majority of other gaming forums. The arrogance shown here is not original as everyone believes x place is better than y simply because they post there. It's just silly. Nothing wrong with being a gamer.

"some kind of dictarorship. Just take the example of Iraq, I can bet that a civil war will start when the americans will leave. In a sense, they were better off with ol' Saddam..." You obviously don't know what Saddam's Iraq was like. His dictatorship was a failure for everyone in that country except for him and a chosen few. People like to bring up the fact that at one point early on his rule that Iraq was actually one of the shining example of a modern nation 9along with Isreal) in the ME with a solid level of progession. What these same people forget that it was a multitude of Saddam's decision that led to Iraq being a broken country. HE destroyed Iraq's progress with a wasteful war with Iran that destroy it's economy, and ruining the country's infrastructure. Iraq's downfall is because of Hussein. Saddam's Iraq was not a Happy-Happy place. Sorry to dissapoint you. The main problem with post Saddam Iraq is not that's it's not being run by a dicator is that it is still recovering from his pathetic rule.

Awesome news. That said, as long as the movie is at least 'okay'; I'll be happy. I don't expect a classic movie just an acceptably entertaining one.

This attack just proves how ill fate of a leader the NK madman is. Exactly what did NK get out of murdering the 46 people? Nothing. Any smart dicator knows that wanton random killing gives you nothing... unless you actually get pleasure out of it. Sicko.