Volourn

"In BG it is strongly implied that Elminster and whatever other omnipotent authority figures are testing you, and this is confirmed in the conversations he has with you." Eh. What a cop out. "I repeat myself, but DA:O would have been better as plain old Dragon Age, and the sole content change would be to delete all the origin stories and have you start as someone who's already a Grey Warden." No. \People who bash being forced to be a Great Warden (which makes sense b/c without it your character would die as evidenced later in the game when npcs talk about the origin characters you don't play - they all end up dead) while defending forced things by being a Bhallspawn, being a Twitcher, etc., etc. are obviously being two faced and blinded by their own foolishness. Also, you aren't forced to be the one to kill the Archdemon and/or sacrifice yourself. "Bioware dumped all the effort into the crapulous romances instead." You jokin' right? Romances are a miniscule part of DA and their other games. "i'm not attacking Bioware" \ Doesn't bother me if you do. I attack BIO myself. I've done it in these posts even. Just if you are to criticize them, it needs to make sense. Bashing NWN OC because Elminster didn't come swooping in to play hero and claiming it's okay he didn't do the same in BG is a double standard. As I said, there is only oen reason why he doesn't in either game - it is the PC's story. Plain and simple. He doesn't even show up in NWN. He does in BG but doesn't do a darn thing except taunt the PC. LMAO

Look at that. Sarex is defending Putin by saying someone else does the same thing. I'll defend OJ Simpson the same way. Who cares if he murdered his ex wife and her friend. Someone else killed their ex wife and their friend as well. *shrug* AS for Putin. Not surprising. It's a fact that he doesn't care about Russians at all. He cares about power and control.

"Sadly this is the necessary state we find ourselves in, many governments are forced to do this as some people need to dragged to the table where we discuss how gender equality is here to stay and be implemented by legislation if necessary. I fail to see how addressing an obvious failure of equality is fascist ?" Scary.

"As you say, what constitutes Romance in games is now fixed" Nothing is 'fixed'. Afterall, at one point turn based combat was 'fixed' and pretty much rpg had it. That obviously didn't remain 'fixed'. Things change. That's what the real world is about. Change whether you like it or not. "However from Origin's onward i've felt very much that I wouldn't choose any of the options presented to me," O RLY? Your choice would be to let the archdemon destroy the world? How is that any different than letting Sarevok getting his way? Same with NWN. To let the tiem traveling lizard freaks get their way they'd enslave every race because that's what they do. And, bring up Elimister is weak sauce because why couldn't he just go up to Sarevok and kill him? I tell you why. The same reason he doesn't in pnp - it's the PC's story. Elminster doesn't even show up in NWN (nor does he make his home even near there) yet you conviently forget he is featured in BG *and* he knows what is up (bein friends with Gorion) and outside of mumbo jumbo wink wink platitudes he doesn't left a finger to solve a crisis he himself claims imust be stopped (despite being far from his home) yet you think BG is more 'logical' than NWN? Come on. I like BG, btw, but role-playing wise, it is BIO's weakest rpg BY FAR even weaker than overrated KOTOR.

"Bioware has been stripping away logical choice from their games for awhile now" Eh.. they have more 'choice' logical or otherwise than the vast majority of RPGs. Amd. what do you mean 'for awhile'? Their newer games tend to have more choices than their earlier ones. LMAO BG1111111111111111111 You get to choose which map you go to and which direction. DEEP.

At least he won... others are not so lucky.

"If you guys think that men are unequal compared to women please give me 3 examples that I'll investigate and we can campaign together on?" My last post gave examples. Others gave you examples. You'd need to have your head buried in the sand if you aren't at least a little aware of them. It's common knowledge that men are more likely to be screwed in the divorce than women simply because theya re the men and the stereotype that men are bad parents and women are good parents. hence the term 'deadbeat dad' is commonly used even though there are plenty of women who abandon their children. But, they are never called out as 'deadbeat moms' and if they were a 'feminist' would call the term sexist yet they'll glad use 'deadbeat dad' repeatedly. A man accused of rape - even falsely (happens a lot more than you think) can have his entire life ruined even if the truth comes out. A man starts or has a 'man only club' he is being sexist and mean. A woman starts or has a 'woman only club' she is protecting women from the big bad rapist men. DISGUSTING. Modern feminists don't know what true equality is. In fact, the term 'feminist' is sexist espciaily if you use it in place of 'equality' because it implicitly implies than the desire for equality is a feminine trait which is absolutely asanine.

" a lot of people would not like." Define 'a lot'.

"Gender equality is feminism" Feminism has very little to do with equality. Maybe at one point it did when it first came to be but not the modern version. Modern feminism is about evil men are, and how women are just victims. Modern feminism should be insulting to both women and men. "Unless you can explain to me all the examples of how poor men are discriminated against in society and are not really seen as equal to women I reject your definition. We don't have campaigns about " equality for men" because basically the issue doesn't exist for men. But please do tell me how hard your life has been being a man and what you demand changes so you are equal to women ...I really want to hear this one" Men are very much discriminated in modern society. In different ways than women but it is an issue. Been to divorce court? See how many men gets crewed over therer? Have you ever been a man accused of rape or abuse? Try to start a club for 'men only' and compare how that is dealt with clubs for 'women only" I can throw out anedictal evidence of discrimination against men but the sexists would just poo poo it because men are evil and only exist to rape little girls. True story. Men are to be feared and hated while women are to be pitied and babied according to modern society. Like I said, that's insulting to both women and men.

"I honestly cannot say that I have ever seen someone so thoroughly fail to grasp what comes across as such a straight forward and simple assertion. You're right that bossy and leader aren't the same... so tick one on failure at critical thinking. The thesis provided is that boys will do a particular act (whatever that act is) and be called a leader for it, while a girl doing that exact same act will more likely be called bossy." The entire premise is ridiculous and sexist. It's trash plain and simple.. Anyone who takes it seriously doesn't know anything worthwhile on the subject. LMAO

" The fact that they are optional doesn't make them immune to criticism. " Who claimed they couldn't be criticzed? hell, I criticize romances all the time. \\ Also, ignore the trollbaiters. I'm no troll. But, around here, if someone has an unpopular opinion theya re labeled troll. That's true internet everywhere. It's a good thing I'm not interested in being popular or a 'kewl' kid.

"First, IMO a verbal resignation would be justification enough. " Only if it can be proven.

Your point? Theya re still optional. So what if they are included. A long sword is usually always optional but it's in almost every single rpg. This shouldn't be a big deal. Optional content is optional content no matter how many games it is in.

Don't read it. It's an evil, bossy, insulting, cruel, and Nazi wannabe website. Yeah, I went there. It's about power and control.

" What I dislike about the romances in recent BioWare games is how obligatory token they've become." No. They are not obligatory at all. They are such a minimal part of the game no matter how much talk about them. You can play the games, not take pat in romances, and still take part in all the major happenings. They are 100% optional.

What a stupid asanine campaign. It's evil plain and simple. It's all about power and control. They are wannabe slavers the scumbags.

"If it wasn't for this forum, I doubt I'd have heard about SP at all." \'ve seen it on various gaming sites.

She hasn't done one iota of 'important' work.

"I mean, a woman drew a picture of another scantily clad woman. Of her own free will." Nah. Just another brainwashed victim of the patriarchy.

"in the Western RPG community - not so much" Just not true. SP game has been hyped big time.

Lack of buzz? The game has been pimped non stop since its release. L0L

"Not to the common man whose interest in a medium is just for entertainment's sake, but to the professional who needs to understand good from bad there are must. This is true for every field, whether is fashion or sports there are certain "musts" that a professional needs to be aware of, even if they don't like them." No. There are no musts. There are probably should, will help them be better, the more expereicne the more helpful, but there is no must. People are misuing the word must. It's hyperbole plain and simple. You could make a perfectly fine RPG without playing a 'classic' like BG2 or Ultima. Afterall, you could play Ultima 3 or BG1 and get the same basic things out of it hence neither BG2 or Ultima are 'musts'. There is no must. That's why these lists are nothing more than 'this is my favorite game' or for those pretending to be 'gaming intelelctuals' will name some 'famous' game they dislike to try to prove lamely how 'unbiased' they are.

You used kiddie porn as a counter example. All your arguments are now irrelevant and unworthy.

"no-one bats even their eyes with the many times the UN, America, EU etc. do so" Nobody bats an eye? What world do you live in?

"There were pedophiles before internet kidy porn, and they would exist without it, your point?" You kiddin' right? That's the comparison youa re using? Kiddie porn? LMAO The very existence of 'kiddie porn' is evidence of someone sexually molesting/assaulting/raping 'kiddies'. Which is both illegal and immoral. How does 'owning a gun' even remotely the same? That's some extremely fraud logic.