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Necroing this as I made this thread before 2.0 and never got to upload the file. Can the devs take a look and see if this is still happening? I am unsure if it was a bug or intended. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ilngbq88lr8dy2/bf37279404f244b28197e42e51262bb4%2012006827%20GreatHall.savegame?dl=0

bump to ensure Aarik gets this. They are (Liberating Exhortation and Suppress Affliction) are working well but there are a few debuffs they act wonky.

Hey some people have been reporting that attack speed buffs are bugged. True? and have you tried Hastening Exhortation to see if its bugged? I am not at level 11 yet on my play through.

Its cool Aarik happy to help. I always play trial of iron..probably a bad thing with a new patch but I do have one other save. I am not sure if its before or after the quest. Here you go. https://www.dropbox.com/s/jo84gqwdbt0qh1w/bf37279404f244b28197e42e51262bb4%2011728441%20WinfrithsArmsandArmory.savegame?dl=0

No problem Aarik I figured you guys would be knee deep in it this week. Here is the link for the shared file. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ilngbq88lr8dy2/bf37279404f244b28197e42e51262bb4%2012006827%20GreatHall.savegame?dl=0 The issue seems to be that certain debuffs it takes Liberating Exhortation and Supress Affliction a while to kick in. Its obviously not the debuff time running out as the buffs suspend them. Also at times afterward the debuff will resume (as it should). The debuffs I noticed are: Knock down, Paralyze (sometimes it works perfectly others the Petrify symbol is above the characters head and shortly after it works as intended) and lastly Petrify. Here is Liberating Exhortation not working right away. When the buff had about 9 seconds left it started to work. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qv057vwhssntqaj/Screenshot%202015-09-03%2017.16.18.png?dl=0 Here is Liberating working but having the petrify symbol and the brief delay before it starts working. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ua6x7v3up6pqe3/Screenshot%202015-09-04%2013.53.48.png?dl=0

Works for barbaric yell too. Seems silly that fully disabling the AI doesn't allow you to use those spells/abilities. Yell only effects one enemy now though. Frenzy can be activated manually you just have to be close enough to an enemy.

And bump :/

Ya or by taking a hit. Also barbaric yell only affects one dude. Unless it was a nerf and the tool tip didn't update.

I probably shouldn't be playing trial of iron at this point...but I don't. Also him and Kana have the same Might Attribute (16) they Both show a damage range of 19-27. I don't think its proof yet that confident aim isn't working as 2.01 has some bad UI issues. All of the weapon specs work but don't show until you hit something. I will have them both melee stuff to see if I can see a difference. Update. I just had Eder attack my PC Paladin tank with no armor on he scored a graze (roll 48) that was converted to a hit. So that piece is at least working. The minimum damage is harder to tell. Ok so I let Kana and Eder hit me with Kana's Fine Estoc. Eder would hit me with no armor on for 25 to 24 points of damage. Kana with the same Might modifier and the same weapon would hit me between 19 and 21 with no armor on. Pretty sure its working and the minimum damage not raising is part of 2.01's UI issues. Pics are in my dropbox Kana's hits https://www.dropbox.com/home/Screenshots?preview=Screenshot+2015-09-08+18.19.06.png https://www.dropbox.com/home/Screenshots?preview=Screenshot+2015-09-08+18.19.08.png Eder's hits https://www.dropbox.com/home/Screenshots?preview=Screenshot+2015-09-08+18.18.59.png Confident Aim working https://www.dropbox.com/home/Screenshots?preview=Screenshot+2015-09-08+18.18.55.png

I wish I could be on 2.0. I have no choice its steam. I actually observed what his min damage was at level 2. Picked confident aim and its the same at level 3...

I chose the talent for Eder and I don't see the minimum damage on his weapon go up. Pretty sure it did before 2.01. I have been fighting with him (sample size has been very small) and have not noticed if the grazes are turning into hits. Also cant tell on the damage done as its a bit too RNG but I could probably notice after a long period of fighting with him... I will keep testing. If anyone else has an easy way to test it would help.

You don't get interrupted too much with dumped Res? Just curious. I wonder what my stats should look like if I were going to try soloing one on PoTD? I just cant find any room for Resolve in a dpser. Granted I want it cause I would hate to be interrupted but I mean...as a Barb you need Might, Dex, Int, Per and Res its too much. Maybe just leave Dex at 10 and hit hard with 2 handers. You just cant have everything. Barb and Paladin suffer the most from attribute spreads I think.

I have steam so 2.01 is what I have. You cannot activate Frenzy unless the AI does it for you at the moment....but good to hear your success...as soon as this bug is fixed I will give it a shot.

I do agree. before this patch Obsidian did a great job with fixing stuff and being responsive I think. This patch has been really bad.

Anyword on at least a hotfix for the spells that can only be casted by AI??

Seeing as Frenzy cant be casts unless the AI casts it (can you do without the AI? I heard you could activate it after you take a hit can you?) and the AI WILL cast it but it urks me cause sometimes its not exactly when I want it to. Looking for some Barbarian experts. Is 2handed or Duel wield better? I would say 2hander for heavy DR. Also Con is HEAVILY recommended now for barb. I get it they are front liner and get hit a lot but....a barb also needs Might, Dex, Int and Per...Barbarian is looking like Paladin where they can use every stat really... I want a Barb NPC as its the only class in the game not presented by an NPC in the story..anyway to make it work with 2.01..

Exactly right. As a Paladin I would not drop anything below 10 as of 2.0 and beyond. My favorite class by far is the Paladin. That being said they suffer from what Paladins in D and D and other settings suffer from and that is a large Attribute spread. Meaning they can make use of every single attribute in the game. You just don't have the points to do them all. If you dump Int not last very long (one of 2 reasons to bring a Paladin the other being there sturdiness). So either go for a Offensive focused Paladin with good support abilities (Good Might, Per, Int) a defensive paladin with good support abilities (Good Con, Res and Int) or a Paladin with ok offense and defense with below (Good Might, Con, Per) average support abilities. You cant do it all. If you do go defensive with 2.01 and from now on really I would recommend having an offensive presence by taking Flames of Devotion with a high accuracy weapon that has good base damage so that you have two very good Alphas per encounter. With the better AI meatbag tanks are not very good.

how are you getting around the issue with Frenzy and Barbaric Yell (if you take it)? By just letting the AI use it liberally? It just annoys me at the moment cause the AI wont use it EXACTLY when I want it too lol.

Lone is correct. They are both proccing look at your combat log. Its any ANY hit not just rolls in those ranges.

I personally have never had this issue. I have a solid state drive...maybe that's it?

Pay attention to the bug forums. I know it is not perfect but you CAN STILL USE Frenzy. So go over there and check it out. Pretty sure there's no work around for barbaric yell not working. Ya I don't think so. I know its been a BAD one for Barbarian.

Pay attention to the bug forums. I know it is not perfect but you CAN STILL USE Frenzy. So go over there and check it out.

Also ive told you 100 times on these forums. Upload or post a link to dropbox with the save file so we can help the devs instead of just complaining (which you have the right to as you used your money for this) but helping will get this stuff fixed faster.

You can and it isn't THAT bad. yes its the worst patch and there are UI bugs but most of them fix themselves when used or are not legit. I know silvertide doesn't heal that for that much...or does it? that would be a real bug lol

I have and they shoe properly at least in my case