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the best way to handle Revan is to kill him....that way, you can still use him as a mask-wearing Force Ghost who speaks more like a ghost than a man or a woman. also, by killing him off, you end the Revan saga which should end in K3. Exile, though, should emerge as a prominent scripted character with a set identity...you can use Exile even beyond the Revan saga. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If that happens, then everything after the end of KotOR1 really will have been a pile of horse dung. Can't KotOR2 just have been a bad dream, like season seven of Dallas?

Not often, but you sometimes see a similar thing with humans in the Star Wars terminology, like Han Solo is referred to as both "Human" and "Corellian".

Really? Atris sampling Dark Side magic and locking herself in with Sith holocrons and magic is comparable to Bastila being tortured for a week? My God, some female Revans really are petty, narrow-minded, shallow biatches.

How the %&/(( did this worthless poll get bumped from september 2004?

KotOR1 is vastly superior as a Star Wars RPG. With or without the cut endings. If you want a depressing exercise in pessimism and cynicism, K2 is for you.

I don't see why opting to kill should count more than opting to not kill. Clearly some of these NPC's are irefutably dead if Revan went DS on the temple summit, but in the cases where Carth could be dead if Revan was DSF and Bastila could be dead if Revan was LSM or F, why should "could be dead" count more than "could be alive"? In both cases i think "could be dead = is dead" would annoy more players. I guess Obsidian thought so too in the case of Bastila, as she shows up if Revan was LSM even though she "could be dead". For this i applaud them.

Erm. Browsing that forum will indubitably involve wading through an endless deluge of trolls, goblins, orcs, elves, fairies, pixies, vampires, leprechauns or whatever, i.e. extremely boring stuff to find good KotOR fanart.

Excellent!

Nah, only ESB was a bit gloomy. Episode III might be even more so, who knows. The other movies were quite cheerful despite the state of the galaxy. And even in ESB there was always a feeling of hope, though. It wasn't cynical, like this K2 depressiveness.... "Yeah, you saved the galaxy from the Sith in K1 but here they are again only 5 years later, killing an entire planet that incidentally had most of the remaining Jedi Order on it. Nothing like a bit of adversity to make you feel good about yourself when you've beaten the game." "Also, Revan left his love interest from K1 behind after less than a year, we felt it was essential to the plot of K2 to smash your happy ending from K1 to pieces too." "Don't do good, it will make the weak weaker". "Btw, your Han Soloish NPC actually used to torture and kill Jedi. Except he couldn't do it anymore because a Jedi woman he killed showed him the force and also what it felt like to be on the receiving end and he loved her for it. I mean he loved to kill her. But he still left the Sith so it was all good! " Then you finally get some hope when you gather all the Masters on Dantooine, These nice(well maybe not Vrook) masters will surely help me against the Sith. Oh wait, they all turn on me. And now Kreia kills them! Actually their state is worse than death!. Yeah why not.

I would prefer it if BioWare made KotOR3 as it's pretty evident that Obsidian doesn't even like the Star Wars franchise, mocking some parts of KotOR1 and the movies on occasions. They should stick with their trolls and fairies, and the gloomy cynisism fits better in radioactive wastelands than the (mostly) optimistic Star Wars universe..

My Revan was near omnipotent and would have slapped Vader half across the Galaxy with his little finger. Some of you people's Revans sucked and would have lost, though(most notably the people who use moronic terms like "KotOR fanboys").

What's worse, the troll that baits or the trolls that bite the bait? Having said that, it does seem like LA are trying to establish Revan as male if you look at the Chronicles on the KotOR2 site on lucasarts.com. Quoting from Chronicles Part XII: The Feeding of Malachor V: "It is a period of uncertainty across the galaxy. After a long and vicious battle in the deepest area of the STAR FORGE, Dark Lord of the Sith DARTH REVAN succeeds in destroying his ex-apprentice DARTH MALAK. After recovering from the duel, Revan seeks out the secret dark outposts he established during the Mandalorian War." So they're trying to establish Revan not only as male, but also as DS male. But then again, the Chronicles section is an inconsistent and inaccurate POS IMHO.

You DS'ers are so cool OMG

Most people.

Here's a tip for you; annual means yearly. So change it to weekly. Alternatively you could still call it annual and not post another one for a year(which would probably be for the best).

Maybe. That's certainly what Chronicle XII suggests. If that's the case then this is another one of KotOR2's failings.

I definitely want Bioware to make KotOR III. They won't however, as they don't do licensed stuff anymore.

I don't know. The game is certainly inferior to the first one, even though the ambitions are higher. I'm annoyed by the constant bugs and glitches, underdeveloped NPC's, blatant disrespect for the original's story in the Chronicles, the boring fights with Nihilus, Sion and and the ending. Don't know who to blame for all these points though, Obsidian or Lucasarts. LA might very well be to blame for all of them.

Level up a couple of times without leveling her up? Also, flurry seemed to work well against her.

I agree with much of what is said. For my next playthrough, i'm going to try to gather as many of the NPC's as possible before actually trying to do anything. This will get me more travelling time with them but i don't know how feasible it is. I think there's a truckload of stuff there concerning the NPC's, but i missed it because i rushed through the game. I'm definetely going to throw alignment out of the window and try to influence them as much as i can as well.

Right, i've actually finished the game, and i'm a bit irritated that i didn't get to train any of the Non-Jedi party members as Jedi. Maybe i rushed through the game too quickly because i was so hyped about the game after waiting for so long and because i wanted to know what happened to the K1 cast. Also, maybe i wasn't any good at influencing the NPC's, Mira didn't want to listen when i suggested i could train her, and with Atton i never got past the - line. However, i actually got Handmaiden to decide to want to be trained as a Jedi after beating her three times at sparring, but directly after that convo, it cut to Kreia saying "Betrayal" and then the game loaded Atris' place and i spawned there in the gear i just fought Handmaiden in on the Ebon Hawk(On Dxun). No people were there, and i looked all over the place. I even found the Ebon Hawk in the docking bay, but i couldn't enter it. This happened again and again after several reloads. Smells of glitch to me, what was actually supposed to happen? This was just before i went to Dantooine for the last time, maybe it was too late in the game? Or was i actually supposed to do something at Atris' place? I just gave up and went to Dantooine and then things started to happen pretty fast. I finished the game without really getting very far with any of the NPC's. Kreia's closure-speech was actually annoying, but i'm pretty sure it can be undone in any potential sequels. Difficult to read, the future is, after all. Oh well, either way i'm going to replay it(from Telos, i think...don't think i'll bother with Peragus again) and focus on developing the NPC's as much as i can before i move on to the ending phase of the game. What order of planets did you guys do, and did you feel you managed to develop the NPC's well? After Peragus and Telos, I did: Korriban Dantooine Nar Shadda Dxun/Onderon

I agree. Dark or light , dark or light.. Neutral please. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sounds like a wimpy, flip-flopping compromise to me.

So far it reminds me of catchphrases from a couple of TV-shows: "Who do you serve and who do you trust?" (Crusade) "Trust no one." (X-Files)

I got Visas after Korriban, and she had one. I could equip it, but it isn't the really cool one that i'll be able to build eventually.

I'm sorry, i don't have it with me here. I'd have to type it up when i get home(much later), and it's a big list.