I did? That wasn't the intention, i was just pointing out the stupidity in his argument. If you want it that way, then no. It's more like Troika = Bethesda. Why? because:
Troika: Great ideas, bad implementation = mostly meh.
Bethesda: Simple ideas, ok implementation = mostly meh.
Even though both VTM: Bloodlines and Oblivion were mostly meh, it was still a great step forward for them.