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I think the point is to filter away the activists and turn Labour towards the centre. So from Starmer's perspective it's worth the loss. The activists don't really have anywhere to go, they can't vote Corbyn in a national election. Labour is afraid of reform and pro Palestinian is a left wing academic or immigrant friendly place to stand. He's also afraid of the Pro Palestinian youth vote, the polling extremely bad for positioning yourself as pro Israel, which is probably why he reversed stance on the recognition of Palestine (a completely symbolic gesture) and there was also a genuine effort in the EU to cancel the trade agreement with Israel (actual pressure). That's going to fail though, that would be my bet. Defence cooperation and Ukraine as well as US relations will mean that any fig leaf or vague declaration of intent from Israel will be good enough to avoid it
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I think it matters a lot what the political elites and the establishment do. In central Europe there has been a tendency of going after pro Palestinian political protest, not as explicit as in the US, but I would say the German and UK governments in particular have been successful at casting doubt and marginalising the movement. the central European powers are pinned down by a sort of existential dread caused by shifting geopolitical realities, and they are afraid to isolate Israel. And doubtless the immigration and the right wing surge also plays a role. It's they don't want to give ground to right wing populists by assuming a traditionally left wing stance on Israel/Palestine.
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Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2, Thread 2
Gorgon replied to Katphood's topic in Computer and Console
So there's no bloodlines in bloodlines. That's pretty underwhelming. -
I wonder how things might have looked on that front if not for Ukraine. If you look at the polls the Spanish and the Irish are the most pro Palestinian in the EU, by huge margins. They are also the furthest away from Ukraine.
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The TV and Streaming Thread: That's Entertainment!
Gorgon replied to LadyCrimson's topic in Way Off-Topic
it can't possibly be "great". I'm going to watch an episode to prove you wrong. -
Music: Sharing and Listening - Where words fail, music speaks
Gorgon replied to ShadySands's topic in Way Off-Topic
It's kinda what you would get if you asked a 5 year old to make the storyboard and ILM to shoot it. -
he's ****.
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Gaza - War does not determine who is right - only who is left
Gorgon replied to Zoraptor's topic in Way Off-Topic
We might have reached the point of exhaustion for both parties. If so that will be the reason rather than Trumps pretty basic ploy of taking a maybe from Hamas and Netanyahu as yes from both. -
I got myself a Lumix micro 4/3 pocket camera a week ago with the intent of just keeping it in my jacket and taking the opportunities for shooting things that might present themselves during the day. Today I decided I would go hunting for Russian drones on my bike ride. No luck yet. On a whim I ordered a tele lens, doesn't arrive for a week though. I'll have to hope "peace" doesn't break out before then. For context The Russians are running a hybrid campaign where they are pretending not to send in military drones over our airports and pretending not to threaten our coastguard helicopters and pretending not to attempt to hack and take down critical infrastructure. It's like the cold war all over again. Drone flight paths near Kastrup airport. I bike past there all the time.
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Random video game news... RNG is your friend!
Gorgon replied to Frak_the_2nd's topic in Computer and Console
Maybe it will force developers away from spending all their attention on eye candy and action. One can hope. -