Verenti 144 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I suggest the ship's name, on the ship's character sheet should be changed from "the Defiant" to just "Defiant". Now that the name is painted on the hull, it's weird to have the "the" in the name. It wasn't the German battleship the Bismarck of the USS the Enterprise. These ships are colloquially as the Bismarck and the Enterprise, but they didn't paint the "the" on the hull. You don't have to change the dialogue. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vengeful_Divine 39 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 There's actually an option in the game to change it to whatever you want. On all the ships I believe, even the starting one. Defiant is just the default. Also because it's changeable, it's possible that whatever they were showcasing at that point that you saw it had been changed away from default and they tried to change it back without really thinking about the syntax ; ) If not, well you can at least change it yourself probably pretty soon after start haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
teenparty 83 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Defiant is an adjective, so you need the article to show it is a name. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JerekKruger 3,526 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Defiant is an adjective, so you need the article to show it is a name. True, but with ships it's not uncommon to use adjectives that way: see HMS Invincible and HMS Indefatigable. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skazz 1,935 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Honestly, I've always been under the impression that "The Defiant" was a Star Trek reference more than anything else. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDogProfessor 85 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Grammatically, does 'the' serve the same roll as HMS (etc) ? Quote Brown Bear- attacks Squirrel Brown Bear did 18 damage to SquirrelSquirrel- death Link to post Share on other sites
omgFIREBALLS 859 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Grammatically, does 'the' serve the same roll as HMS (etc) ? HMS means Her Majesty's Ship so that feels like a no to me. I'd say there shouldn't be a "the" in the ship name but it should be added before the ship name when used in dialogue. Though with the combined creativity of this corner of the internet, there surely will be very unorthodox ship names that will sound not just weird, but grammatically incorrect when prefixed with "the" in conversation. Not even sure what would happen with a noun for a name. Captain of Defiance? Captain of the Defiance? Pretty sure we still want the "the" prefix for noun names... 1 Quote Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip.Cuitztli's Complete Catalogue: She's got what you need, in stock every time. Link to post Share on other sites
TheDogProfessor 85 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Grammatically, does 'the' serve the same roll as HMS (etc) ? HMS means Her Majesty's Ship so that feels like a no to me. Oh I didn't mean does 'the'='HMS' or anything along those lines. More that does a ship name or something similar require an article and does HMS fill that role. I think I'd still want to put 'the' in front of 'HMS'. So i think I've just answered my own question... Quote Brown Bear- attacks Squirrel Brown Bear did 18 damage to SquirrelSquirrel- death Link to post Share on other sites
omgFIREBALLS 859 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Funny you should say that. I would say the HMS Defiant, but if I had to read the acronym out, I would change it to Her Majesty's Ship, the Defiant. Not, the Her Majesty's Ship Defiant. 3 Quote Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip.Cuitztli's Complete Catalogue: She's got what you need, in stock every time. Link to post Share on other sites
teenparty 83 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Grammatically, does 'the' serve the same roll as HMS (etc) ? Maybe not grammatically, but it serves the function of telling us it is the name of a ship, thus avoiding confusion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultornet 2 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 More importantly, as the video has shown, can we now find, conquer and name new islands in the archipelago? Seems like an awesome feature to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleedthefreak 333 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Look, on the horizon, it's the "The Defiant"! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big-Ben 478 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I'm just looking forward to all the absolutely insane names people will call their ships because I'm that kind of guy. 1 Quote Yes! We have no bananas. Link to post Share on other sites
ShadySands 7,529 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I plan on renaming the Defiant to the Sao Paulo 4 Quote Free games updated 3/6/19 Link to post Share on other sites
Wormerine 4,270 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I still need to figure out a name for my orlan merchant from Old Valia. Creating my character for the first time and having little knowledge of the Eora lore, I named my orlan in Glanfathan style by digging into old Irish names... Need to find something more italian for the sequel. Having to figure something out for my ship and discovered islands might be too much for my limited creativity. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDogProfessor 85 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I still need to figure out a name for my orlan merchant from Old Valia. Creating my character for the first time and having little knowledge of the Eora lore, I named my orlan in Glanfathan style by digging into old Irish names... Need to find something more italian for the sequel. Orlano Orlani 4 Quote Brown Bear- attacks Squirrel Brown Bear did 18 damage to SquirrelSquirrel- death Link to post Share on other sites
Boeroer 14,751 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Orlando Fiore? 1 Quote Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to post Share on other sites
Skazz 1,935 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I vote for Orlano Furioso. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sharmat 707 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I still need to figure out a name for my orlan merchant from Old Valia. Creating my character for the first time and having little knowledge of the Eora lore, I named my orlan in Glanfathan style by digging into old Irish names... Need to find something more italian for the sequel. Having to figure something out for my ship and discovered islands might be too much for my limited creativity. Keep the current name then change some of the celtic vowels and consonants into ones used more commonly in Italian. Can just say it's the result of Vailians struggling to pronounce the name until it stuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDogProfessor 85 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I vote for Orlano Furioso. This is brilliant. 1 Quote Brown Bear- attacks Squirrel Brown Bear did 18 damage to SquirrelSquirrel- death Link to post Share on other sites
TheDogProfessor 85 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 In all seriousness, though, I can take a shoot at italianising the name for you. I speak Italian and have a university degree it (and its earlier renaissance forms to some exent). 4 Quote Brown Bear- attacks Squirrel Brown Bear did 18 damage to SquirrelSquirrel- death Link to post Share on other sites
Wormerine 4,270 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 In all seriousness, though, I can take a shoot at italianising the name for you. I speak Italian and have a university degree it (and its earlier renaissance forms to some exent). That's alright, I will come up with something. Thanks anyway. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
InsaneCommander 2,464 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I have a vailian character. I combined the name Marie with the vailian "Ancelle" and formed "Mariencelle". I guess she would use a vailian name for her ship. If anyone has any suggestions, please share here. How is "Sassypants" in Vailian? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDogProfessor 85 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 How is "Sassypants" in Vailian? 'Birichina' means insolent/ mischievous etc. But can also be used affectionately. 'Sfacciata' would also work well. Means Cheeky, brazen etc. 3 Quote Brown Bear- attacks Squirrel Brown Bear did 18 damage to SquirrelSquirrel- death Link to post Share on other sites
omgFIREBALLS 859 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 You guys are way too classy. I'd call the ship "your mom's bedroom" or somesuch. Imagine dialogue lines like: Hello chieftain, I am Hectraw, captain of your mom's bedroom. As you might know, your mom's bedroom can easily house fifty men, and no fewer are necessary to keep her in top shape. Do you know where I could hire some cleaners? My crew tends to make a mess of your mom's bedroom. 5 Quote Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip.Cuitztli's Complete Catalogue: She's got what you need, in stock every time. Link to post Share on other sites
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