Amigo345 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I think the first time I heard it was Tyranny. It was Verse, was it? It didn't feel particularly out of place but it didn't feel perfect either. Then they used it for barbarian in White March. Man that woman sounded like a texas ranger. Kinda fun but you know, a bit out of context maybe? I get the idea they wanted to try new stuff, get away from cliches, etc. Or maybe they decided to go with american actress due to budget/whatever. The problem with american accent is that it can be associated with something new, modern, post medieval. And CRPGs are usually medieval european fantasy themed. So what's your opinion on this? Yes or No? Or a corporate compromise - yes but to an extent (like one or characters in a game)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Clearly it works with Fallout and other wasteland games. Pillars had some too, notably the settlers in the Dyrwood. Like Eder. I agree with the connotations, but I think things are changing. The accent is well suited toward settings of immigration, exploration, or colonialism. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonarbill Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) The American accents make sense for the people of Dyrwood and Readceras. They're both former colonies of Aedyr, just like how US was a former colony that belonged to England. Edited February 10, 2018 by bonarbill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dog_days Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 The American accents make sense for the people of Dyrwood and Readceras. They're both former colonies of Aedyr, just like how US was a former colony that belonged to England. I've been saying this for almost three years and yet most people just ignore it. *grumble* 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Pillars was full of thick American accents, which is not too surprising considering the Dyrwood seems to mirror USA in several ways too. But I do agree that it was often jarring, and took me right off the setting and world. I also feel like the whole "Dyrwood = USA" excuse runs a little thin when the likes of Maneha, who's meant to be from Rauatai and who arguably spent most of her life in Old Vailia and the Deadfire, has such a thick southern drawl - the voice acting feels a bit half-assed and lazy in turn (in all fairness, her whole character's a bit of a mess, like she's being pulled in too many directions at once). And she's not the only non-Dyrwood American either - amidst our companions we can also take a look at Sagani, but unlike Maneha her accent seems a tad more neutral and thus I don't mind it as much. Then again, I do have a general prejudice against American accents, so I see how that feeds into my distaste for their presence in Pillars. Edited February 10, 2018 by algroth My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Sagani felt like she was out of a hipster coffee shop. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedrefilos Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 No problem with american accents as long as I can understand what they're saying. That means plain city accents are mostly ok with me. I disagree about the heavy accents in Tyranny. Didn't felt like that. They sounded like in Pillars. That said, british accents > american ones (in general ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dog_days Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 No problem with american accents as long as I can understand what they're saying. That means plain city accents are mostly ok with me. I disagree about the heavy accents in Tyranny. Didn't felt like that. They sounded like in Pillars. That said, british accents > american ones (in general ) I don't know how much you know about American accents, but city accents are some of the worst. New Jersey, Chicago, New Orleans, Boston, and 'valleyspeak' (from the Los Angeles and Hollywood areas of California) are nearly unintelligible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amigo345 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 I wouldn't want characters talking like ladies and gentlemen from the Victorian era like they do in DOS2. It may be even worse. Something neutral - sure. Can't actors actually imitate or surpress their accents? Hugh Laurie was imitating americna accent in House TV show. And there were some american actors who imitated british accents. Why not roll with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedrefilos Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 No problem with american accents as long as I can understand what they're saying. That means plain city accents are mostly ok with me. I disagree about the heavy accents in Tyranny. Didn't felt like that. They sounded like in Pillars. That said, british accents > american ones (in general ) I don't know how much you know about American accents, but city accents are some of the worst. New Jersey, Chicago, New Orleans, Boston, and 'valleyspeak' (from the Los Angeles and Hollywood areas of California) are nearly unintelligible. Yes I know, as in the rest of the world, but there's always a "common" accent that many, if not most, people usually use (or at least a close to that one). I think I've seen a well ammount of american movies, tv series, games, cartoons etc in my life as well as talking with my relatives in Boston to recognise the one and I'm pretty sure you get what I mean. To make it even more clear: I'm totally ok with the american accents most games use. There. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 If it was up to me everyone would sound like a Texas ranger. 4 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedrefilos Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 The worst is pretend accents. For example, I tried to play Assassin's Creed 2, the one starting in Venice, and everyone talked english with pretend italian accent :D Ok that was so rediculus I quit the game. Either use proper english or use italian and put subs :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) I have no problem with any accents as long as it is consistent. I don't think I've every seen a movie or show or game set in medieval times (or medieval fantasy) with accurate or even approximate Middle English. It's always modern British accents... which is understandable, I guess, if they want it to be easily understood without subtitles but it's not at all accurate. Can't really speak to foreign language stuff. Edited February 10, 2018 by ShadySands 5 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Less murican, man. Moar strine, mate. 2 It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daled Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 The worst is pretend accents. For example, I tried to play Assassin's Creed 2, the one starting in Venice, and everyone talked english with pretend italian accent :D Ok that was so rediculus I quit the game. Either use proper english or use italian and put subs :D Oh god, I almost forgot how cringy was the AC2 pretended italian. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedrefilos Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) When you create something taking place in a particular time period and place of the old, it is ok to use your current native language for the entirety. I don't believe anyone that watched Aguirre (a movie about conquistadores in the new world) bothered by them speaking german. It was a German movie. Vikings, the tv series, did something very clever, imo. Everybody spoke american english to eachother when speaking the same language and hearing others talk in native. When focus switched to other, they were speaking american english and the former speaking in native. I thought it was brilliant. Example: Danish meeting Anglosaxons on the shore of England. Focus on vikings, they speak american english - they hear the Anglosaxons speak old english (can't understand eachother). Focus changes to Anglo-saxons; they speak american english - they listen the vikings speak Danish. They used american english as an auto-translation to work for the audience. Edited February 10, 2018 by Sedrefilos 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dog_days Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I have no problem with any accents as long as it is consistent. Fair point. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgonzo Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I think the voice acting in poe1 was a mixed bag. The accents were many times too exagerated. I didn’t even use the devil and maneha because their voices were so annoying. Sagani was pretto bad too. However i did like durance, thaos and the narrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 No problem with any accents so long as they are genuine (e.g. you want an Italian accent? Hire an Italian actor.) Fake accents sound cringy 99% of the time. 7 "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Oh god, I almost forgot how cringy was the AC2 pretended italian. Yeah. “Why is Adam Jensen doing Italian accent?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 the hobbit did a fantastic job using accents. there will always be a singular gandalf, with others being mere pretenders to the role. the king o' the elves and smaug also most impressive in their hobbit incarnations. the orcs in return of the king were also punishing memorable. try and forget the orcs. dare you. HA! Good Fun! 3 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogenes Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 The American accents in Pillars one were generally good because it helped with the ideas of most characters just generally being regular people and not epic heroes with exaggerated stage accents. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 American accents are also closer to 18th century English, so using modern British English is actually a bit of an anachronism in itself. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 How about we use a more historically informed pronaunciation? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qYiYd9RcK5M the hobbit did a fantastic job using accents. there will always be a singular gandalf, with others being mere pretenders to the role. Whenever director or an actor you can’t go wrong with John Huston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) the hobbit did a fantastic job using accents. there will always be a singular gandalf, with others being mere pretenders to the role. the king o' the elves and smaug also most impressive in their hobbit incarnations. the orcs in return of the king were also punishing memorable. try and forget the orcs. dare you. HA! Good Fun! The Hobbit is a very English novel. The characters use very (early 20th century) English phrasing, it would be practically impossible to give those characters any other accent and still retain any of the original text. But the non-English varieties of birds and butterflies still jarred with me. And the accents of the dwarves where inconstantly Scottish (Ken Stott, Balin) and Irish (James Nesbitt, Bofur). As for me, I like to hear American accents in American games. To my English ears Eder and Sagani sound quite exotic. NB, There is no such thing as speaking with "no" accent. Everyone has an accent. Edited February 11, 2018 by Fardragon 5 Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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