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Eh, he didn't lose over being a pedo. That just brought his name out, where black people found out he wanted to remove the amendment against slavery. If your news source doesn't include african americans mobilizing and making the clutch then you're watching fake news.

I don't think that's entirely true - keyword being "entirely". The voting splits suggested that white turnout was horrible - but what whites did vote voted for him (instead of the Dem) at about the same percentage as normal. That happened almost certainly because of the controversy (especially when the large write-in count was almost certainly because of what would've been Republican voters deciding he was not worth their vote). On the other hand, yes, black voters had great turnout (saying that America was better when slavery was still around probably wasn't the wisest choice of words, as indirectly as he said it), and a little over 95% of all black voters went for Jones.

 

 

Plainly saying America would be better without the 13th amendment seems pretty direct to me.

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Looks like Moore's not conceding.

Yeah, he's now being stubborn and not conceding because he wants to wait until all the votes are in and until tomorrow, because 'god wills it' or somesuch. I guess it's fair enough if he wants to wait until it's all in, but still.... He's also calling for a recount.
Well it is his right, but since he was denied fair trail and due process before I'm not surprised he will be denied this to.

 

Jones wins will give Dems one input - it's possible to win using mud throwing again. Waiting for the paper ads "Will accuse a candidate for $$$. Two accusations in price of one."

 

Trump 2020!

 

 

Well the rightists lost. Stop being butthurt and deal with it. 

 

Also: R00fles!

 

Man what a joyous day. This thread keeps getting better and better. :wub:

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Looks like Moore's not conceding.

Yeah, he's now being stubborn and not conceding because he wants to wait until all the votes are in and until tomorrow, because 'god wills it' or somesuch. I guess it's fair enough if he wants to wait until it's all in, but still.... He's also calling for a recount.
Well it is his right, but since he was denied fair trail and due process before I'm not surprised he will be denied this to.

 

Jones wins will give Dems one input - it's possible to win using mud throwing again. Waiting for the paper ads "Will accuse a candidate for $$$. Two accusations in price of one."

 

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Sharp_one what would be the main reasons you like Trump

 

 

Please be honest, I can guess but I would rather not 8)

His politics and his stand against the liberal agenda. That would be the main. What was your guess?

 

Trump 2020!

Please define what you mean by a) “his politics” and b) the “liberal agenda”
What for? Will it change anything?

 

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Eh, he didn't lose over being a pedo. That just brought his name out, where black people found out he wanted to remove the amendment against slavery. If your news source doesn't include african americans mobilizing and making the clutch then you're watching fake news.

I don't think that's entirely true - keyword being "entirely". The voting splits suggested that white turnout was horrible - but what whites did vote voted for him (instead of the Dem) at about the same percentage as normal. That happened almost certainly because of the controversy (especially when the large write-in count was almost certainly because of what would've been Republican voters deciding he was not worth their vote). On the other hand, yes, black voters had great turnout (saying that America was better when slavery was still around probably wasn't the wisest choice of words, as indirectly as he said it), and a little over 95% of all black voters went for Jones.

 

 

Plainly saying America would be better without the 13th amendment seems pretty direct to me.

 

Where did he "plainly say" that? As far as I know, he said all of the amendments after the 10th. There are sixteen other amendments after the 10th besides the 13th, so I think that's indirect, even though it (and other similar amendments like the 15th and 19th) are probably what he was getting at. The guy's undoubtedly a monster for this reason and many others...which is why I don't feel it's necessary to stretch the truth here. Edited by Bartimaeus
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In this political climate, I don't think conservative America would even entertain the idea of making all candidates submit to physical and mental tests. Maybe physical, but definitely not mental...and I kind of have my own misgivings about the latter, too. I think most people have mental issues of some kind - some more serious that can interfere with doing your job and your life in general, and some much less so. If the results of these tests were revealed to the public, both sides would just weaponize them against each other, and eventually the political parties would just try to find candidates who'll get a totally clean bill of health - or candidates who can at least fake their way through. So much of mental health diagnostics require the subject to answer honestly with the intent of getting the correct diagnosis: I don't want to encourage even more liars and sociopaths to pursue our highest offices than we already do. And if you don't reveal the results publicly, what's the purpose of screening? Would you give psychologists the power to unilaterally eliminate candidates for reasons they won't divulge? No, I just don't think most people would go for that - I think even many liberals and progressives would probably take issue to that.

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"I don't think that's entirely true - keyword being "entirely". The voting splits suggested that white turnout was horrible - but what whites did vote voted for him (instead of the Dem) at about the same percentage as normal. That happened almost certainly because of the controversy (especially when the large write-in count was almost certainly because of what would've been Republican voters deciding he was not worth their vote). On the other hand, yes, black voters had great turnout (saying that America was better when slavery was still around probably wasn't the wisest choice of words, as indirectly as he said it), and a little over 95% of all black voters went for Jones.  "

 

The same thing happened to Moore that happened to Clinton. The people who were supposed to be part of his base  either a0 voted for him as expected or b) just didn't bother to vote as they didn't want to vote for the opponent.  That happened to Clinton largely with the black vote.  % wise she won their vote as expected but many blacks (especially men) had no interest in voting for the older white woman no matter her opponent so they didn't bother to show up.

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What for? Will it change anything?

Trump 2020!

 

 

It will make for some fine entertainment. Polish Trump fanboys are amusing to no end, especially when they spam 'Trump 2020' everywhere. 

 

 

I'm actually beginning to question whether Sharp is actually Polish and not some Russian troll-farm keyboard warrior given how he's somehow oblivious to the "Immigrant Polish Plumber" stereotype that's so prevalent in Europe.

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So would the world. In fact, this thread would not exist if people in it needed to pass a mental test.

Only the insane are truly sane.

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I'm actually beginning to question whether Sharp is actually Polish and not some Russian troll-farm keyboard warrior given how he's somehow oblivious to the "Immigrant Polish Plumber" stereotype that's so prevalent in Europe.

Unfortunately, this kind of cluelessness isn't uncommon in Poland.

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I'm actually beginning to question whether Sharp is actually Polish and not some Russian troll-farm keyboard warrior given how he's somehow oblivious to the "Immigrant Polish Plumber" stereotype that's so prevalent in Europe.

Unfortunately, this kind of cluelessness isn't uncommon in Poland.

 

 

Granted, judging by sharpie's posts, other kinds of cluelessness aren't either  :lol:

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YEAH! Personal attacks! WoooHoooo! Oh wait...

 

Thank goodness he wasn't wearing spurs! PETA would have been all over his ass. But he was using reins, which attaches to a bit, which hurts the horse every time you try to steer or stop, so I guess they can go after him for that. :yes:

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I must be missing something, but what's the sarcasm about PETA and such for ? You think Moore's catching flak unjustly ?

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YEAH! Personal attacks! WoooHoooo! Oh wait...

 

Thank goodness he wasn't wearing spurs! PETA would have been all over his ass. But he was using reins, which attaches to a bit, which hurts the horse every time you try to steer or stop, so I guess they can go after him for that. :yes:

 

No, I mean he apparently doesn't know how to ride a horse properly. I can't speak with any expertise, as I don't either, but I don't parade my lack of skill in front of camera crews.

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This is one I was very tempted to put in the funny things thread...

 

NY Daily News - Why the trumps NY mayoral votes didn't count

 

 


President Trump and his family of New Yorkers were not in the Big Apple Nov. 7 when voters went the polls, so they voted by absentee ballot.

Or at least they tried to.

 

Officials at the city's Board of Elections said the President signed and dated an absentee ballot along with an application on Oct. 19, checking a box that said he would be absent from the city on Election Day.

 

First Lady Melania Trump did the same, submitting a handwritten form that had everything in capital letters.

But the First Lady did not sign the envelope she put the ballot in as required by BOE, so her vote wasn’t counted.

 

Trump's daughter Ivanka also botched her ballot. It was filled out correctly, but she didn’t mail it until Election Daywhich was too late to be counted, officials said.

Her husband, Jared Kushner, didn't mail his back at all, according to the board.

 

Officials said the President’s ballot was fine. But that was before the Daily News pointed out to an official that the date of birth on his application was a full month off.

Trump, 71, was born on June 14, 1946, but his ballot application lists his birthday as July.

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As for the horse, it also seemed like the horse wasn't used to crowds or at least all the noise or something. Which was probably on top of what he was doing, but you'd think he would bring one who is used to crowds, or he doesn't care.

 

@Raithe: Was it Trump that did that with the birthday month or was it a typo on whoever typed it up?

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So, uh, anybody miss the drama in the WH? Because there was apparently some (though unclear just how much drama) over Omarosa being fired.

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/13/16773148/omarosa-trump-white-house-drama

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364827-omarosa-tripped-white-house-alarms-report

 

And apparently Rep Farenthold is a major a-hole to guys as well: https://www.axios.com/farenthold-faces-new-allegations-from-male-staffer-2517281611.html?utm_medium=linkshare&utm_campaign=organic The comment he made to the guys fiance is sexual, yes, but it's just pure a-holery there.

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