Guard Dog Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 And what's the minimum amount to be taxed like that? If it were up to me everyone pays. From $1 up to whatever. If everyone benefits from that the taxes pay, then everyone should pay. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 OK, i think I'm caught up now. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Malcador Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) And what's the minimum amount to be taxed like that?If it were up to me everyone pays. From $1 up to whatever. If everyone benefits from that the taxes pay, then everyone should pay. So the poor get shafted then. But then again no sales taxes, so that might offset Edited November 21, 2017 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Pidesco Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 I was going to write something somewhat lengthy regarding flat taxes, directed at Guard Dog but I screwed up and lost my post. Basically, flat taxes exacerbate the fact that rich people have a much easier time of getting richer than poor people. 15% of earnings for a person living just above the poverty line is a much harsher tax than 15% of earnings for a millionaire. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 If anything a flat tax on income would exacerbate the issues of wealth concentration and poverty. Going back to the idealistic graphs in the irrefutable science of basic economics, the lines for income and spending have different slopes and starting points. A 15% tax on income would make it harder on those whoze income is under around the spending level while benfitting who are way above it with more capital to invest. I mean I guess it's a good idea if you're a radical leftist accelerationist who thinks the working class won't revolt until things get bad, but otherwise I can't see why anyone would think this is a good idea. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Pidesco Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 If anything a flat tax on income would exacerbate the issues of wealth concentration and poverty. Going back to the idealistic graphs in the irrefutable science of basic economics, the lines for income and spending have different slopes and starting points. A 15% tax on income would make it harder on those whoze income is under around the spending level while benfitting who are way above it with more capital to invest. I mean I guess it's a good idea if you're a radical leftist accelerationist who thinks the working class won't revolt until things get bad, but otherwise I can't see why anyone would think this is a good idea. Roughly speaking, there's two sorts of people that think this is a good idea: a) Really rich people who are rat bastards. b) People who, through the vicissitudes of life, ended up believing all you need to succeed is lots of effort and a adequate supply of boot straps. Often, people in category b) have reached their own views partially thanks to the efforts of people in category a). "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Blarghagh Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 15% is ridiculously high for a lot of ppl Says the guy who just proposed 85% tax... On multi-million dollar inheritances after the first million. Not on all income! Guard Dog's flat 15% income tax is going to reach in and grab a LOT more straight from your pocket than Ben's "socialist utopia" you fear so much ever would.
Hurlshort Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 15% is ridiculously high for a lot of ppl Says the guy who just proposed 85% tax... 85% tax on about 3% of the population. You are really having a hard time understanding this, aren't you? edit: Heh, TN beat me to it! edit 2: I'm not sure why we bother. Sharpie is clearly a Russian plant. Edited November 21, 2017 by Hurlshot 1
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