Juodas Varnas Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Awakenings seem to vary greatly in intensity and just what is awakened. They're also extremely rare. It's a hell of a gambit to make. As opposed to sitting in a soul prison for an eternity? Yeah, she'll probably have a higher success ratio sitting in soul prison keeping the secret alive. She told at least 6 people (the Watcher and the party). Someone else might come, a few centuries from then, which is more than she could expect, had she been reborn. Centuries? Since we were the first living people down there for since the Engwithans, i really doubt there will be many, if any at all, people going down there (especially considering it requires the favor from the Gods to just survive the trip). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgalkin Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 You don't need the favor of the gods to survive the trip if you use the passage that Thaos used (and sealed afterwards), and which you dig out and leave by after you defeat him. And yeah, 1 person in 2 millenia is still a better chance than hoping for an Awakening that will keep the secret alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgalkin Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 By the way, the Orlan baby question is missing an option- in my latest, "canon" playthrough, I simply killed Simoc and his guards as soon as he made the offer (you have an option for that in dialogue). Later, his son showed up and thanked me. Never even saw the baby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 By the way, the Orlan baby question is missing an option- in my latest, "canon" playthrough, I simply killed Simoc and his guards as soon as he made the offer (you have an option for that in dialogue). Later, his son showed up and thanked me. Never even saw the baby. True, but the outcome is the same as in "Poison Simoc, leave the baby alone". It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sharmat Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Awakenings seem to vary greatly in intensity and just what is awakened. They're also extremely rare. It's a hell of a gambit to make. As opposed to sitting in a soul prison for an eternity? She knew exactly what she was getting there. Sit around in Breith Eaman being smug at the Gods for petty satisfaction. Given the Gods are kind of proud selfish ****, it probably even worked a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juodas Varnas Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Awakenings seem to vary greatly in intensity and just what is awakened. They're also extremely rare. It's a hell of a gambit to make. As opposed to sitting in a soul prison for an eternity? She knew exactly what she was getting there. Sit around in Breith Eaman being smug at the Gods for petty satisfaction. Given the Gods are kind of proud selfish ****, it probably even worked a bit. Oh, she probably thinks that way for sure, but i really doubt the gods give even the slightest amount of ****s about her in her position, if anything it's actually good for them to have her sit there forever, instead of being out there in the world spreading her heresy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgalkin Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Awakenings seem to vary greatly in intensity and just what is awakened. They're also extremely rare. It's a hell of a gambit to make. As opposed to sitting in a soul prison for an eternity? She knew exactly what she was getting there. Sit around in Breith Eaman being smug at the Gods for petty satisfaction. Given the Gods are kind of proud selfish ****, it probably even worked a bit. Oh, she probably thinks that way for sure, but i really doubt the gods give even the slightest amount of ****s about her in her position, if anything it's actually good for them to have her sit there forever, instead of being out there in the world spreading her heresy. Except that she wouldn't be spreading her heresy if she was out in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juodas Varnas Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Awakenings seem to vary greatly in intensity and just what is awakened. They're also extremely rare. It's a hell of a gambit to make. As opposed to sitting in a soul prison for an eternity? She knew exactly what she was getting there. Sit around in Breith Eaman being smug at the Gods for petty satisfaction. Given the Gods are kind of proud selfish ****, it probably even worked a bit. Oh, she probably thinks that way for sure, but i really doubt the gods give even the slightest amount of ****s about her in her position, if anything it's actually good for them to have her sit there forever, instead of being out there in the world spreading her heresy. Except that she wouldn't be spreading her heresy if she was out in the world. She would POSSIBLY spreading her heresy, as opposed to NOT spreading her heresy while in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgalkin Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 You don't seem to realize that only a tiny minority of souls ever awaken. Are you one of those people who think that playing the lottery is a legit way of making money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sharmat Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 And Gods can intervene to make sure someone awakens. I'd imagine they can do the opposite. Iovara probably has a better success rate sitting in a giant hole than she would in the outside world. Plus, she tried the evangelical angle. It didn't work then, when there were actual people that created the Gods still walking around leaking stuff. It's even less likely to work now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaShard Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Is there "best" choices? Some like the Machine on the Hill there are good and bad results for both. Allow the souls to go to the wheel but it can still be used to make zombies or sacrifice those souls so the machine is permantly broken. Neither seems "best" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Is there "best" choices? Some like the Machine on the Hill there are good and bad results for both. Allow the souls to go to the wheel but it can still be used to make zombies or sacrifice those souls so the machine is permantly broken. Neither seems "best" to me. *sigh* For the n-th time, the survey is about the choices/consequences you personally want to transfer into the sequel NOT the "best" ones. 2 It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgFIREBALLS Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Since this seems to have turned into the questionnaire feedback thread... For Aufra we need another option. Yes, I gave her the placebo potion, and told her it would guarantee her child would not be born hollow. Yes, I gave her the potion, but warned her it would not do anything. I gave her the potion and didn't correct her about her ideas. I just nodded stoically or something. That doesn't really amount to guaranteeing her anything. Or perhaps the first option needs to be reworded as I'm not sure you can give her a more reassuring answer. 1 My Deadfire mods Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip. Waukeen's Berth: Make all your basic purchases at Queen's Berth. Carrying Voice: Wider chanter invocations. Nemnok's Congregation: Lets all priests express their true faith. Deadfire skill check catalogue right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I was surprised there was no option to try to absorb Thaos' soul like you could with Maerwald Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgalkin Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I was surprised there was no option to try to absorb Thaos' soul like you could with Maerwald Remember that animancer who tried to absorb a scullery maid's soul, but ended up absorbed by her soul instead? If you tried to merge with Thaos, there is no guarantee that it wouldn't be Thaos who came out on top. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 That's a good point but it actually makes me want that option even more. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, maybe things go horribly wrong and a defeated Thaos ends up winning in the end because of your thirst for power/knowledge/cool headgear. The game already gives you "bad options" that can result in your death so I don't really see a problem with that being a possibility. 2 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgalkin Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 That's a good point but it actually makes me want that option even more. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, maybe things go horribly wrong and a defeated Thaos ends up winning in the end because of your thirst for power/knowledge/cool headgear. The game already gives you "bad options" that can result in your death so I don't really see a problem with that being a possibility. They cut a lot of stuff from the game, including being able to get Iovara's soul to help you in the fight against Thaos in exchange for freeing the Forgiven souls. This might be one of those things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sharmat Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I was surprised there was no option to try to absorb Thaos' soul like you could with Maerwald Remember that animancer who tried to absorb a scullery maid's soul, but ended up absorbed by her soul instead? I don't, at all. Where was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgalkin Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I was surprised there was no option to try to absorb Thaos' soul like you could with Maerwald Remember that animancer who tried to absorb a scullery maid's soul, but ended up absorbed by her soul instead? I don't, at all. Where was this? I can't recall at the moment. It was either in a book you read in-game, or a lore-dump conversation at the sanitarium, IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sharmat Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I was wondering if maybe it was from a backer NPC or something. I made the conscious choice to skip almost all of those after the first few death godlikes with tragic pasts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juodas Varnas Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I was wondering if maybe it was from a backer NPC or something. I made the conscious choice to skip almost all of those after the first few death godlikes with tragic pasts. Oh god... is it gonna be like in the first PoE with the backer npcs? Oh Godlikes are so rare and mysterious! Literally every other NPC sitting around is some special snowflake godlike. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sharmat Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 It was a damn shame. I think if you remove all those, there's only what, 4 Godlike in the entire game including Pallegina? It would have made seeing one an actual novelty if not for all the gold name mary sues. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkarov Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Pretty sure Obsidian has said they realize they mishandled the backer NPC's and messages from the first game, and this time it will be far more strict and subtle. I think the best way to handle it may even be as simple as creating a "backer content" flag, and for any character in game who is only there as a backer npc and not part of something bigger, they just click that flag on. Then make an in game setting you can turn on or off, and if you turn it off the characters with that flag simply don't appear in your game.Probably a little too late for something like that but whatevs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneCommander Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) I was wondering if maybe it was from a backer NPC or something. I made the conscious choice to skip almost all of those after the first few death godlikes with tragic pasts. Oh god... is it gonna be like in the first PoE with the backer npcs? Oh Godlikes are so rare and mysterious! Literally every other NPC sitting around is some special snowflake godlike. That was specially annoying when I played as a Death godlike. Everywhere I went I saw another one, so it gave me the impression that nobody would look at me twice. Edit: typo Edited April 6, 2018 by InsaneCommander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 That was specially annoying when I played as a Death godlike. Everywhere I went I saw another one, so it game me the impression that nobody would look at me twice. There must be loads born given that they are "commonly killed at birth because many cultures consider them harbingers of doom." 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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