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Right wing politics:

 

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Well, China bought their one and only aircraft carrier from Ukraine. Questions come to mind:

 

1.Why? <- this probably covers every other question but oh well...

2.What good is one aircraft carrier against 20 or more U.S aircraft carriers that actually work?

3.Is Ukraine an ally of the U.S or China?

 

Paging Agiel...

 

The Chinese aren't idiots. They know that purchasing Varyag isn't going to turn them into a 21st century naval power capable of going toe to toe with the USN. And it's cheaper and easier to defeat a carrier through massed missile attacks than with another carrier anyway. That was the approach the Soviets took, at least.

 

The long and short of it is know-how. Technical know-how to some degree because Varyag was already obsolete when they purchased it but they still spent more than a year taking it apart and studying it. But most importantly, operational know-how. Running a carrier safely and effectively is a complex task and the Chinese were millions of man-hours worth of experience behind the US. Even the Russians, according to some reports, don't have a very good grasp on it, judging from Kuznetsov's track record. Unlike Russia however, China seems to be making a sustained effort to be a challenger to US naval supremacy in the long run.

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Right wing politics:

 

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dont get it at all

I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"

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Also, because Trump mentioned it, it's not true that the counter-protesters didn't have a permit - they did.

Plus, to say something I've said many times in this thread, the protesters on Friday were not peaceful - they attacked peaceful counter protesters without provocation while chanting Nazi phrases. I'm very curious why Trump thought they were peaceful (I suspect that he confused the Alt-Right Nazis and the UVA Students who were standing around the statue before they were swarmed with fire wielding ****s).

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:huh:

That's socialism 101.

 

It's basically any extremism - communist or fascist. It's just that the alt-right are a bit better at the polite robbery of rights, property and liberty - and using their violent supporters more indirectly than anti-fa groups etc.

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Even the Russians, according to some reports, don't have a very good grasp on it, judging from Kuznetsov's track record.

 

 

They have a poor grasp on it, and I don't think even the russians would claim the Kuznetsov to be a successful ship. When it sailed to Syria it was the other big ship (Pyotr Veliky) that was far more significant though ignored by the media, and the Kuznetsov was there just for training and evaluation even after all its theoretical time in service. They did have the unique problem of the Black Sea transit and the Montreux Convention barring aircraft carriers though, so it had to be designed oddly so they could claim it wasn't an actual carrier.

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BLM should definitely do more to distance themselves from extremism, but their message is pretty dang tame compared to Neo-nazis and the KKK.

 

Here is a look at what they say they stand for: http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/

 

As I said, not exactly crazy stuff. Now when that message gets overridden by violence and vandalism, they need to respond better. Just like I want to see Trump respond better.

Only problem is without actions they are just words. They discussed here how Hitler was perceived still as one way bc of what he SAID but his actions showed something completely different. Until the words and actions line up, actions speak louder than words.

 

Also I agree it's a slippery slope bc while it's ok and feels right to **** up a Nazi/KKK member, by the same standard the same outrage and actions directed at them should also be directed towards anyone who has said "death to whitey/cops/Muslims/Christian's/etc".

Hate is hate.

At least whoever came up with PC ideology was smart enough to impliment a "victimhood" and tried to change the meaning of racism to give themselves a way to do the same actions and intent without the penalties.

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You know how noboby pays attention to what the folks in Poland have to say? Maybe we should:

 

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thats East Europe for you. We just don't like anyone :)

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I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"

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Also, because Trump mentioned it, it's not true that the counter-protesters didn't have a permit - they did.

Plus, to say something I've said many times in this thread, the protesters on Friday were not peaceful - they attacked peaceful counter protesters without provocation while chanting Nazi phrases. I'm very curious why Trump thought they were peaceful (I suspect that he confused the Alt-Right Nazis and the UVA Students who were standing around the statue before they were swarmed with fire wielding ****s).

Funniest thing about that spiel he gave was saying that he needed to wait for facts before speaking.

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Right wing politics:

 

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Both sides are equally bad, the alt-left is encouraging them by giving up $20.

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"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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Right wing politics:

 

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Both sides are equally bad, the alt-left is encouraging them by giving up $20.

 

 

I know you're trying to be funny, but alt-left isn't even a thing.

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That's the joke

"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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Woah, talk about pouring gasoline on fire!

 

Baltimore removes Confederate statues (CNN)

Just like ISIS. Somehow. They're moving some to cemeteries for the rebel dead, so BFD.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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Woah, talk about pouring gasoline on fire!

 

Baltimore removes Confederate statues (CNN)

Just like ISIS. Somehow. They're moving some to cemeteries for the rebel dead, so BFD.

 

 

I don't think ISIS moved anything to cemetaries for the rebel dead? They pretty much destroyed them outright.

 

The fate of those statues seems unclear, some say that they might put them in cemetaries and one councilor wants to destroy them outright.

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You can just feel the economic anxiety that led to Trump being elected oozing through their pores.

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same as a lot of black people voted for Obama just because he is black...

I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"

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same as a lot of black people voted for Obama just because he is black...

 

That argument doesn't really work because every other president has been white. Unless I'm misunderstanding your point.

 

 

 

You can just feel the economic anxiety that led to Trump being elected oozing through their pores.

 

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/15/16144070/psychology-alt-right

 

 

It goes to show: The alt-right is motivated by racial issues, not economic anxiety.

 

https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c9uvw

 

 

I read that Vox article title as "NEWS! Psychologists find that racists are racists!" and was like, Vox, I know you can do better than this.....

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I can tell you now, she's not going to prison. Maybe jail time, and even then I'd be surprised if the judge reached that verdict.

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