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I have to admit, I'm amused by the mocking of Paul Ryan over the #pintgate mess from St Patrick's Day.

Offending the Irish by holding a despicable pint with no head and a poor way of holding it.

 

Just rounding off the amount of Irish'isms the Washington court carried out in an attempt to show their blarney.

"Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."

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The solution to the high cost of highway maintenance? Get rid of the highway. :lol:

 

No... seriously: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/18/governments-switch-to-dirt-roads-to-save-cash-tear-up-existing-paved-streets/

 

I have to tell you... I'm so much happier since I stopped caring. Anyone know where I can get a good deal on a horse?

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"The man of virtuous soul commands not, nor obeys. Power, like a desolating pestilence, pollutes whate'er it touches; and obedience, bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth, makes slaves of men, and of the human frame a mechanized automaton."

P.B. Shelley

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Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken

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Brilliant analysis on the economics of health care and how the government, which has already completely screwed it up, is is only going to screw it up further: http://reason.com/archives/2017/03/19/health-insurance-and-rights

"The man of virtuous soul commands not, nor obeys. Power, like a desolating pestilence, pollutes whate'er it touches; and obedience, bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth, makes slaves of men, and of the human frame a mechanized automaton."

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A moment of clarity here. People are foaming-at-the-mouth rabid (well, not most but some people are) over the Trump budget with cuts grants to Meals on Wheels. The total dollar amount cut is a little over $248,000 to an organization that brings in $7.5M a year http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/17/despite-outrage-over-cuts-federal-funds-are-fraction-meals-on-wheels-budget.html

 

But, Time Magazine (never one to shy away from yellow journalism) and Rep. Shelia Jackson Lee (who should know better) insist Trump is killing the program. Even the Chicago Tribune (no fan of Trump there) called them out over it: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/schmich/ct-mary-schmich-meals-on-wheels-20170317-column.html

 

I'd just like to point out that people donated over $248,000 to make a Bernie Sanders action figure that you can now buy on Amazon for $15:  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fctry/bernie-sanders-action-figure. Perhaps they should have donated to one of the groups under the Meals on Wheels umbrella instead. Then not only would MoW not be short all those non-biodegradable, environmentally harmful plastic action figures would not end up in a land fill one day.

 

Just sayin'

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"The man of virtuous soul commands not, nor obeys. Power, like a desolating pestilence, pollutes whate'er it touches; and obedience, bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth, makes slaves of men, and of the human frame a mechanized automaton."

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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/meals-wheels-sees-spike-online-donations-after-trump-s-proposed-n735266

 

Well there is that. But those are probably not the same people who bought the Bernie figurine.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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Brilliant analysis on the economics of health care and how the government, which has already completely screwed it up, is is only going to screw it up further: http://reason.com/archives/2017/03/19/health-insurance-and-rights

 

Does it also provide an explanation why the US spends more per capita on healthcare than any other country yet still ends up somewhere in the middle of the pack as far as quality of care is concerned?

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"Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."

 

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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/upshot/what-if-sociologists-had-as-much-influence-as-economists.html?partner=qz&_r=0&utm_content=zeitde_redpost_zon_link_sf&utm_campaign=ref&utm_source=facebook_zonaudev_int&utm_term=facebook_zonaudev_int&utm_medium=sm&wt_zmc=sm.int.zonaudev.facebook.ref.zeitde.redpost_zon.link.sf&referer=http://m.facebook.com

 

 

I thought this was interesting, especially since I'm into sociology; but you may like it as well. It does an excellent job at outlining why sociology is important (and somewhat interesting).

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Everybody knows the deal is rotten

Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton

For your ribbons and bows

And everybody knows

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I'm completely over medical insurance as a thing. It is a failed experiment. 

 

Medical insurance itself is perfectly fine both theoretically and practically. The US system is... non optimal, I think everyone would agree, but that is due to more reasons than it being primarily based on medical insurance. There are efficient healthcare systems based on medical insurance, albeit most have a compulsory element to them and more regulation than the US likes.

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Mexico will pay for the wall. Germany will pay for defense.

 

errr... France will pay for healthcare.

Canada will pay for it.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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Mexico will pay for the wall. Germany will pay for defense.

errr... France will pay for healthcare.

Canada will pay for it.

So that's where we're dumping sick people?

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Mexico will pay for the wall. Germany will pay for defense.

errr... France will pay for healthcare.

Canada will pay for it.

So that's where we're dumping sick people?

 

 

You're dumping them in Germany, too. Pretty sure our medical care system is faster than Canada's and I know there's stats advertising that much. In the last two months alone, I've had ~5 American friends ask me how they could become German/EU citizens.

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Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?

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From one of my American friends..

 

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And without [Affordable Care Act] I was uninsurable thanks to my breathing issues. When they repeal it, I will again be uninsurable or dumped into the "high risk pool" which provide coverage for everything expect the breathing issues at a higher cost. So the $400 for 30 days med that I take so I can breathe will out of pocket as will all visits to my specialist ($175 to walk in the door), the tests they do check my lung capacity ($350) that they require when I visit said specialist, and anything else they deem as "related" to my pre-existing condition.
This meme is not an exaggeration for me. Taking away my access to healthcare will result in my death.

"Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."

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From one of my American friends..

 

17155412_1274324822658528_33771024769725

 

 

And without [Affordable Care Act] I was uninsurable thanks to my breathing issues. When they repeal it, I will again be uninsurable or dumped into the "high risk pool" which provide coverage for everything expect the breathing issues at a higher cost. So the $400 for 30 days med that I take so I can breathe will out of pocket as will all visits to my specialist ($175 to walk in the door), the tests they do check my lung capacity ($350) that they require when I visit said specialist, and anything else they deem as "related" to my pre-existing condition.

This meme is not an exaggeration for me. Taking away my access to healthcare will result in my death.

 

Fact, you are more likely to die waiting in UK for your affordable healthcare than find christian in Luton xD

I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"

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Just to give a real world example from my perspective, I buy the best insurance I have available from my employer. The family plan deducts $693 dollars a month from my paycheck every month, and my school district kicks in an additional $2187 dollars every month to the insurance company. This plan gives us access to a pretty large network of providers.

 

My family of four is pretty dang healthy. We are all active and we stick to a pretty good diet. My wife recently had her gall bladder out, which is a pretty standard procedure. I just received the breakdown in the mail, so lets go over it. The original charge from the hospital was $21,619. Now because the hospital is in our network, they work out a discount with the insurance company that shaves off $14,413. My insurance company paid $6,236 of that, and I am left with a $970 bill.

 

So basically we give the insurance company nearly $3000 every month and we still get hit with a nearly $1000 bill when we have a fairly standard operation done. Imagine how crazy that bill is going to look when someone gets hospitalized for a period of time. And I say WHEN because the vast majority of us are going to end up needing this. Unless you get lucky and keel over without any warning signs, you are going to need some major medical care at some point in your life. 

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yeah that's sad, I pay 170 dollars a month and got covered everything :)

 

but average salary of doctor in US is cca 200000 per year, and 30000 where I live so, go figure

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Fact, you are more likely to die waiting in UK for your affordable healthcare than find christian in Luton xD

 

[citation needed]

 

it was obviously a joke, sad that I have to explain it

 

anyway its quite true that healthcare is in crisis in UK due to being understuffed and lacking money

I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"

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No, they were well on their way with or without ACA. 

 

Also, in addition to all of our costs, estimates are about 25% of our federal taxes are going to healthcare programs. We pay like 5 times more than other countries, and I am pretty sure we aren't getting 5 times better healthcare for that.

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