Wrath of Dagon 553 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I'm sure the State Department blowhards really put the fear of God in those Ruskies! "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to post Share on other sites
Hurlsnot 8,225 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 I'm sure the State Department blowhards really put the fear of God in those Ruskies! I take it you trust the military generals to keep us out of war, instead? Link to post Share on other sites
Wrath of Dagon 553 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 si vis pacem, para bellum "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to post Share on other sites
aluminiumtrioxid 1,791 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I can honestly say I didn't expect Trump to win the election but always thought, in the off chance that he did, that by virtue of the sheer destructiveness of his policies the left would be dragged kicking and screaming leftward and actually begin to organise around issues pertaining to class.And that still may be true however it certainly won't be done with Democrat support. Were they smart they'd have attempted to court the left back to the centre/right with some basic class rhetoric/handouts but instead they seem to be going this route: Basically adhering to what is quite honestly a very disturbing political narrative of supposedly unified "race interests". This will of course only continue to empower the rising racist far-right. This is good. The Democratic Party would never move beyond milquetoast liberalism and driving off anyone remotely class consiouss in the US still holding on will hopefully make a split happen. The issue is where those people go, a socdem party like the recent Green Party or a more radical organization. At this point I'm willing to bet on the former in the short-term, with a Trump victory in 2020 and maybe an economic downturn that wounds the right. "Yay! A bunch of people will suffer and die as a result of disastrous Republican policies, but there's a tiny chance that a major party will self-detonate and an even tinier chance that one of the offshoots will have policies I like, but hey, totes worth it bro, it isn't ****ing wishful thinking AT ALL" "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to post Share on other sites
Meshugger 2,272 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Class-thinking will cause the people of the nation to be at odds with each other on their possessions, race-thinking will cause the people of the nation to be at odds with each others biology, religion-thinking will cause the people of the nation to be at odds with each others souls. The golden mean is just around the corner. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to post Share on other sites
Hurlsnot 8,225 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 si vis pacem, para bellum It's a good response, but it isn't an either or proposition. We can have diplomacy and military readiness. Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,566 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Seems like freezing their budget while they optimize would be a good idea if they are unready with the current huge budget. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
Gfted1 6,062 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Spreading freedom aint cheap. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to post Share on other sites
ArtistFormerlyKnownasKP 6,430 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I can honestly say I didn't expect Trump to win the election but always thought, in the off chance that he did, that by virtue of the sheer destructiveness of his policies the left would be dragged kicking and screaming leftward and actually begin to organise around issues pertaining to class.And that still may be true however it certainly won't be done with Democrat support. Were they smart they'd have attempted to court the left back to the centre/right with some basic class rhetoric/handouts but instead they seem to be going this route: Basically adhering to what is quite honestly a very disturbing political narrative of supposedly unified "race interests". This will of course only continue to empower the rising racist far-right. This is good. The Democratic Party would never move beyond milquetoast liberalism and driving off anyone remotely class consiouss in the US still holding on will hopefully make a split happen. The issue is where those people go, a socdem party like the recent Green Party or a more radical organization. At this point I'm willing to bet on the former in the short-term, with a Trump victory in 2020 and maybe an economic downturn that wounds the right. "Yay! A bunch of people will suffer and die as a result of disastrous Republican policies, but there's a tiny chance that a major party will self-detonate and an even tinier chance that one of the offshoots will have policies I like, but hey, totes worth it bro, it isn't ****ing wishful thinking AT ALL" As opposed to disatrous Republican policies from 2 decades ago? "I am the expert, asshat." - Hurlsnot "You need to be careful, lest I write another ten page essay on mythology and how it relates to Sailor Moon." - majestic "I won't say what just in case KaineParker is reading" - Bartimaeus "Oh no! Is there super secret ending as well? I don’t care." - Wormerine Link to post Share on other sites
Hurlsnot 8,225 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 So we are cutting meals for the elderly and the free school lunch programs? The school lunch program is quite possibly the most important thing that some schools are doing. I've worked at a number of tough schools, and the fact that these kids can get a warm meal and some time away from tragic situations at home is invaluable. I'm confident that in California the state will pick up the slack, but I imagine all the states who already rely heavily on federal dollars to get by will be in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites
Guard Dog 9,504 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 si vis pacem, para bellum It's a good response, but it isn't an either or proposition. We can have diplomacy and military readiness. In fact they depend heavily on one another. The former without the latter is just old powerless men talking and the latter without the former just back opponents into a corner and forces them to fight. Even if they didn't really want to. "The man of virtuous soul commands not, nor obeys. Power, like a desolating pestilence, pollutes whate'er it touches; and obedience, bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth, makes slaves of men, and of the human frame a mechanized automaton." P.B. Shelley Link to post Share on other sites
Barothmuk 585 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) So we are cutting meals for the elderly and the free school lunch programs? Edited March 17, 2017 by Barothmuk Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,566 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 So we are cutting meals for the elderly and the free school lunch programs? The school lunch program is quite possibly the most important thing that some schools are doing. I've worked at a number of tough schools, and the fact that these kids can get a warm meal and some time away from tragic situations at home is invaluable. I'm confident that in California the state will pick up the slack, but I imagine all the states who already rely heavily on federal dollars to get by will be in trouble. You're going to get "**** you, I got mine" in fancy dress. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
HoonDing 4,249 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Someone just took "no more free lunch" literally. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to post Share on other sites
Wrath of Dagon 553 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) So we are cutting meals for the elderly and the free school lunch programs? The school lunch program is quite possibly the most important thing that some schools are doing. I've worked at a number of tough schools, and the fact that these kids can get a warm meal and some time away from tragic situations at home is invaluable. I'm confident that in California the state will pick up the slack, but I imagine all the states who already rely heavily on federal dollars to get by will be in trouble. Don't think they're eliminating the school lunch program. They're eliminating Community Block Development Grant ($3 billion total) to states which is used by states to fund some other social programs, like after school care in some districts. Edited March 17, 2017 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to post Share on other sites
Wrath of Dagon 553 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 si vis pacem, para bellum It's a good response, but it isn't an either or proposition. We can have diplomacy and military readiness. Yes, but I'm sure the State Department can afford to cut back on champagne, lobster and caviar at their parties, the millions dollar tulip landscaping, and close the embassy in Upper ****landia. It's not that expensive to flap your lips. Meanwhile, Trump is already taking action: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/03/16/trump-puts-business-experience-in-pentagon.html "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to post Share on other sites
Raithe 21,426 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Out of curiosity, does anyone know off hand how accurate this one is? "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to post Share on other sites
Gfted1 6,062 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 It doesnt pass the eyball test but I dont know if its legit. It looks like someone took: / . "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to post Share on other sites
Raithe 21,426 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 It doesnt pass the eyball test but I dont know if its legit. It looks like someone took: <total monies saved by axing these programs> / <number of people in the country>. That makes some sense, it's awkward to try digging into my own countries tax and budget, let alone Americas. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to post Share on other sites
Volourn 2,546 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 The Walmart thing? isn't that just the silly nonsense that Walmart pays employees 'little' so their employees go on welfare? That isn't 'corporate welfare'. Also, Welfare actually tends to pay its employees better than most businsses at that 'skill level'. Certainly better than most 'mom and pop' shops that charge outrageous prices, and don't pay their employees a great wage or even give benefits that match. ie. It is better to work at Walmart than some corner store (money and benefits wise though you have to deal with a more corporate culture of course). FACT. Unless the gvo't is actually giving money to Walmart directly which is uncool if it is true. P.S. I notice that posts supports programs for women but not for men. Just another sexist piece of ****. P.S.S. Earth is an evil 'mother' unless you think a mother that mass murders here children is a good mother. HAHAHAHAHA. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to post Share on other sites
Wrath of Dagon 553 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 The guy above can donate to all those causes if he wants. Looks like $12 is just for climate change, which for some reason he broke into 3 pieces. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to post Share on other sites
pmp10 236 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 The guy above can donate to all those causes if he wants. Looks like $12 is just for climate change, which for some reason he broke into 3 pieces. Most likely research, efficiency and clean power plan. Makes sense as technically they are separate programs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ShadySands 7,778 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Donna Brazile: Passing debate questions to Clinton camp 'a mistake I will forever regret' Former interim Democratic National Committee chairperson Donna Brazile has for months been dodging questions about passing along questions to Hillary Clinton's staff in advance of a CNN debate -- but now, she's speaking out and calling the misstep "a mistake I will forever regret." Emails from Clinton campaign Chair John Podesta's account were released in October by WikiLeaks showing that the then-CNN contributor had forwarded questions ahead of a March primary debate. I thought I remembered her denying it at some point and not just dodging questions about it Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to post Share on other sites
BruceVC 2,839 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Sorry guys but I feel I need to write this melancholic post One of my uncles came to visit my dad from the USA and he reminded us of how his son and friend was killed in the Angola War, I remember the day like yesterday. He was a paratrooper and very well liked. His funeral was very packed with many people, many varsity people and army buddies http://samvousa.org/operation-firewood-26-year-remembrance/ Then I remembered all the people I have known who died in the wars in Southern Africa against Communism, my family in Rhodesia use to mention how after Vietnam several hundred former Vietnam soldiers came to Rhodesia to continue the fight against Communism They were very proficient and experienced fighters, they actually helped refine the Rhodesian fireforce helicopter special attack strategy which they used in Vietnam. Check this out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireforce They were instrumental in this attack, imagine these numbers of casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dingo Here is some information about the US soldiers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crippled_Eagles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._MacKenzie 1 "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to post Share on other sites
Barothmuk 585 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 US [and Saudi Arabia] forces G20 to drop any mention of climate change' in joint statement 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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