Raithe Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 I have to admit, I'm amused by the mocking of Paul Ryan over the #pintgate mess from St Patrick's Day. Offending the Irish by holding a despicable pint with no head and a poor way of holding it. Just rounding off the amount of Irish'isms the Washington court carried out in an attempt to show their blarney. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Guard Dog Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 The solution to the high cost of highway maintenance? Get rid of the highway. No... seriously: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/18/governments-switch-to-dirt-roads-to-save-cash-tear-up-existing-paved-streets/ I have to tell you... I'm so much happier since I stopped caring. Anyone know where I can get a good deal on a horse? 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Azdeus Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) US [and Saudi Arabia] forces G20 to drop any mention of climate change' in joint statement Fricking old stooges. Edited March 19, 2017 by Azdeus Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken
Guard Dog Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Brilliant analysis on the economics of health care and how the government, which has already completely screwed it up, is is only going to screw it up further: http://reason.com/archives/2017/03/19/health-insurance-and-rights "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 A moment of clarity here. People are foaming-at-the-mouth rabid (well, not most but some people are) over the Trump budget with cuts grants to Meals on Wheels. The total dollar amount cut is a little over $248,000 to an organization that brings in $7.5M a year http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/17/despite-outrage-over-cuts-federal-funds-are-fraction-meals-on-wheels-budget.html But, Time Magazine (never one to shy away from yellow journalism) and Rep. Shelia Jackson Lee (who should know better) insist Trump is killing the program. Even the Chicago Tribune (no fan of Trump there) called them out over it: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/schmich/ct-mary-schmich-meals-on-wheels-20170317-column.html I'd just like to point out that people donated over $248,000 to make a Bernie Sanders action figure that you can now buy on Amazon for $15: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fctry/bernie-sanders-action-figure. Perhaps they should have donated to one of the groups under the Meals on Wheels umbrella instead. Then not only would MoW not be short all those non-biodegradable, environmentally harmful plastic action figures would not end up in a land fill one day. Just sayin' 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Malcador Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/meals-wheels-sees-spike-online-donations-after-trump-s-proposed-n735266 Well there is that. But those are probably not the same people who bought the Bernie figurine. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Hurlshort Posted March 20, 2017 Author Posted March 20, 2017 To be fair, the Trump Budget Chief has done an absolute horrific job explaining any of that.
aluminiumtrioxid Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Brilliant analysis on the economics of health care and how the government, which has already completely screwed it up, is is only going to screw it up further: http://reason.com/archives/2017/03/19/health-insurance-and-rights Does it also provide an explanation why the US spends more per capita on healthcare than any other country yet still ends up somewhere in the middle of the pack as far as quality of care is concerned? 3 "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."
Hurlshort Posted March 20, 2017 Author Posted March 20, 2017 I'm completely over medical insurance as a thing. It is a failed experiment. 3
Ben No.3 Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/upshot/what-if-sociologists-had-as-much-influence-as-economists.html?partner=qz&_r=0&utm_content=zeitde_redpost_zon_link_sf&utm_campaign=ref&utm_source=facebook_zonaudev_int&utm_term=facebook_zonaudev_int&utm_medium=sm&wt_zmc=sm.int.zonaudev.facebook.ref.zeitde.redpost_zon.link.sf&referer=http://m.facebook.com I thought this was interesting, especially since I'm into sociology; but you may like it as well. It does an excellent job at outlining why sociology is important (and somewhat interesting). Edited March 20, 2017 by Ben No.3 Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows
Zoraptor Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 I'm completely over medical insurance as a thing. It is a failed experiment. Medical insurance itself is perfectly fine both theoretically and practically. The US system is... non optimal, I think everyone would agree, but that is due to more reasons than it being primarily based on medical insurance. There are efficient healthcare systems based on medical insurance, albeit most have a compulsory element to them and more regulation than the US likes.
HoonDing Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Mexico will pay for the wall. Germany will pay for defense. errr... France will pay for healthcare. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Malcador Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Mexico will pay for the wall. Germany will pay for defense. errr... France will pay for healthcare. Canada will pay for it. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 Mexico will pay for the wall. Germany will pay for defense. errr... France will pay for healthcare. Canada will pay for it. So that's where we're dumping sick people? "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Longknife Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 Mexico will pay for the wall. Germany will pay for defense. errr... France will pay for healthcare. Canada will pay for it. So that's where we're dumping sick people? You're dumping them in Germany, too. Pretty sure our medical care system is faster than Canada's and I know there's stats advertising that much. In the last two months alone, I've had ~5 American friends ask me how they could become German/EU citizens. "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?
Raithe Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 From one of my American friends.. And without [Affordable Care Act] I was uninsurable thanks to my breathing issues. When they repeal it, I will again be uninsurable or dumped into the "high risk pool" which provide coverage for everything expect the breathing issues at a higher cost. So the $400 for 30 days med that I take so I can breathe will out of pocket as will all visits to my specialist ($175 to walk in the door), the tests they do check my lung capacity ($350) that they require when I visit said specialist, and anything else they deem as "related" to my pre-existing condition.This meme is not an exaggeration for me. Taking away my access to healthcare will result in my death. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Gfted1 Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 ^What did they do before 2010? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Chilloutman Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 From one of my American friends.. And without [Affordable Care Act] I was uninsurable thanks to my breathing issues. When they repeal it, I will again be uninsurable or dumped into the "high risk pool" which provide coverage for everything expect the breathing issues at a higher cost. So the $400 for 30 days med that I take so I can breathe will out of pocket as will all visits to my specialist ($175 to walk in the door), the tests they do check my lung capacity ($350) that they require when I visit said specialist, and anything else they deem as "related" to my pre-existing condition. This meme is not an exaggeration for me. Taking away my access to healthcare will result in my death. Fact, you are more likely to die waiting in UK for your affordable healthcare than find christian in Luton xD I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Hurlshort Posted March 21, 2017 Author Posted March 21, 2017 ^What did they do before 2010? Well, costs have doubled since then, so I'd imagine that is a factor.
Hurlshort Posted March 21, 2017 Author Posted March 21, 2017 Just to give a real world example from my perspective, I buy the best insurance I have available from my employer. The family plan deducts $693 dollars a month from my paycheck every month, and my school district kicks in an additional $2187 dollars every month to the insurance company. This plan gives us access to a pretty large network of providers. My family of four is pretty dang healthy. We are all active and we stick to a pretty good diet. My wife recently had her gall bladder out, which is a pretty standard procedure. I just received the breakdown in the mail, so lets go over it. The original charge from the hospital was $21,619. Now because the hospital is in our network, they work out a discount with the insurance company that shaves off $14,413. My insurance company paid $6,236 of that, and I am left with a $970 bill. So basically we give the insurance company nearly $3000 every month and we still get hit with a nearly $1000 bill when we have a fairly standard operation done. Imagine how crazy that bill is going to look when someone gets hospitalized for a period of time. And I say WHEN because the vast majority of us are going to end up needing this. Unless you get lucky and keel over without any warning signs, you are going to need some major medical care at some point in your life.
aluminiumtrioxid Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 Fact, you are more likely to die waiting in UK for your affordable healthcare than find christian in Luton xD [citation needed] "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."
Chilloutman Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 yeah that's sad, I pay 170 dollars a month and got covered everything but average salary of doctor in US is cca 200000 per year, and 30000 where I live so, go figure I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Chilloutman Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 Fact, you are more likely to die waiting in UK for your affordable healthcare than find christian in Luton xD [citation needed] it was obviously a joke, sad that I have to explain it anyway its quite true that healthcare is in crisis in UK due to being understuffed and lacking money I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Gfted1 Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 Well, costs have doubled since then, so I'd imagine that is a factor. Have they double because of ACA? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Hurlshort Posted March 21, 2017 Author Posted March 21, 2017 No, they were well on their way with or without ACA. Also, in addition to all of our costs, estimates are about 25% of our federal taxes are going to healthcare programs. We pay like 5 times more than other countries, and I am pretty sure we aren't getting 5 times better healthcare for that. 1
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