The US Election 2016, Part VII

[Bokishi]

Paula Jones, Gennefer Flowers, Mark Cuban at the debate?

[Guard Dog]

It also depends on what the pseudonym was. "ThanksObama2008" wouldn't indicate that he didn't know, for example.

 

 

Edit:

 

Interesting survey:

 

 

Among the survey findings, respondents said if Trump is elected president there would be a:

 

 

 

46 percent chance that Trump would authorize the use of a nuclear device against ISIS or another foreign enemy;

 

54 percent chance the U.S. government would default on its debt;

 

65 percent chance Trump would use the powers of his office against a political opponent;

 

54 percent chance Trump would create a database to track all Muslims in the U.S.;

 

53 percent chance Trump would order the military to target the families of terrorists;

 

44 percent chance Trump would authorize internment camps for illegal immigrants; and

 

65 percent chance there would be race riots in major U.S. cities.

 

 

 

Trump supporters shared many of those same concerns, with his supporters predicting a:

 

 

 

22 percent chance that Trump would authorize the use of a nuclear weapon;

 

33 percent chance the U.S. government would default on its debt;

 

32 percent chance Trump would use the powers of his office against a political opponent;

 

48 percent chance Trump would create a database to track all Muslims in the U.S.;

 

29 percent chance Trump would order the military to target the families of terrorists;

 

32 percent chance Trump would authorize internment camps for illegal immigrants; and

 

36 percent chance there would be race riots in major U.S. cities.

 

 

Using a nuclear weapon? No, that will not happen absent some extreme act of war. Using the power of the office against an opponent? That is already going on and is hardly new. Under Obama the IRS had been ruthlessly suppressing all PACs whose politics his party disapproves of. Under Clinton many of his outspoken opponents found themselves under IRS scrutiny. And Nixon, Need I say more? Muslim database? If you don't think something along those lines does not already exist you haven't been following what's going on around here. Snowden did not become a wanted man because he sold secrets to foreign governments (at first). Targeting terrorists families... that may happen. I doubt it and hope not. Internment camps? No. Not happening. We have a bad history with that sort of thing. Race riots in US cities? Noooo... say it ain't so. It's happening right now.

[Pidesco]

Yeah, obviously those things aren't going to happen. My point is more that there seems to be a non trivial percentage of Trump supporters who think Trump might do catastrophic things, and they're happy about it.

[Guard Dog]

Yeah, obviously those things aren't going to happen. My point is more that there seems to be a non trivial percentage of Trump supporters who think Trump might do catastrophic things, and they're happy about it.

I guess this is an appropriate place to use the some folks want to watch the world burn quote. It does not make a heck of a lot of sense to me either. 

 

But in all seriousness every needs to know a Trump Presidency probably will be a lot less eventful than you think. The President is not all powerful. Far from it. They set the agenda, they lead on foreign policy, they nominate judges, they enforce the law. Basically that is it. And Congress has oversight on all of it. A President can't do "big things" without Congress being on-board. And the Republicans are defending enough seats in "soft blue" states to make control of the Senate at least likely for the Dems. That means Trump can bluster away but there will be a real limit to what he can do.

 

The biggest mistake we've made as a country in the last 20 years was the Iraq invasion. GWB bears the brunt of that blame for sure but let's not forget, had Congress, including Hillary Clinton not given the OK it would not have happened. The world would be different today. ISIS would only be a hot brunette Egyptian goddess

[Wrath of Dagon]

More on Cheryl Mills immunity: http://observer.com/2016/09/the-fbi-investigation-of-emailgate-was-a-sham/

 

You give immunity to someone who's simultaneously acting as the chief suspect's lawyer! Just wow.

 

Edit: More on this, this time from a former federal prosecutor, admittedly a partisan one: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/440370/why-did-obama-justice-department-grant-cheryl-mills-immunity

Edited September 25, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon

[Volourn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SZqiXDfHnI

[Guard Dog]

It looks like the numbers are shaping up for Colorado to be THE swing state this year. http://www.weeklystandard.com/quinnipiac-race-tightens-in-colorado-as-trump-gains-among-white-college-educated-voters/article/2004481

 

So if you still care which of these two turds ends up not being flushed in November you need to talk to Shady Sands. You can't "buy"his vote, but I'm sure he'd read the note on a gift! 

 

Edited September 26, 2016 by Guard Dog

[BruceVC]

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/presidential-debate-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html

 

Huge debate tonight guys, the first of 3. Its going to be very exciting   

[Malcador]

Shame the debates are theater rather than kind you see in Universities and such.

[HoonDing]

A few new memes shall be born and Trump victory assured.

[Amentep]

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/presidential-debate-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html

 

Huge debate tonight guys, the first of 3. Its going to be very exciting   

 

Not to anyone who wouldn't vote for either of them.  Maybe if they'd actually let a third party candidate into the debates, it'd have been exciting...

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Tonight is the night we find out if Trump is a Clinton shill or if he is serious.

[Pidesco]

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/presidential-debate-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html

 

Huge debate tonight guys, the first of 3. Its going to be very exciting   

 

Not to anyone who wouldn't vote for either of them.  Maybe if they'd actually let a third party candidate into the debates, it'd have been exciting...

 

If you had four bullets in a revolver instead of two, would your sense of excitement change during a game of Russian roulette?

[Wrath of Dagon]

Before grandma conquers IS and Putin, she's going to have to conquer the menace of short flights of stairs: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/25/video-hillary-clinton-struggles-stairs-curb-first-presidential-debate/

 

Another outbreak of pneumonia no doubt.

[Malcador]

Before grandma conquers IS and Putin, she's going to have to conquer the menace of short flights of stairs: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/25/video-hillary-clinton-struggles-stairs-curb-first-presidential-debate/

 

Another outbreak of pneumonia no doubt.

Always good to see 8th graders making a publication.

[Wrath of Dagon]

More on the Mills immunity, this time from a neutral observer: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/09/26/hillary-clinton-emails-mills-server-immunity-jonathan-turley/91092182/

 

"For the Obama Administration, the criminal investigation into the Democratic presidential nominee and its prior secretary of State came with a heightened level of public scrutiny and skepticism. Many doubted that the administration would seriously pursue the Clintons, a family of political royalty in both Democratic and establishment circles. The easiest way for prosecutors to scuttle a criminal case is to immunize those people who are at the greatest risk of criminal indictment."

[Volourn]

"Shame the debates are theater rather than kind you see in Universities and such."

 

What kind fo debates do you even see in Universities now? Debates are anti free speech according to SJW Nazis.  

[Malcador]

"Shame the debates are theater rather than kind you see in Universities and such."

 

What kind fo debates do you even see in Universities now? Debates are anti free speech according to SJW Nazis.

Think debating societies are a thing still

[Meshugger]

 

"Shame the debates are theater rather than kind you see in Universities and such."

 

What kind fo debates do you even see in Universities now? Debates are anti free speech according to SJW Nazis.

Think debating societies are a thing still

 

 

Frankly, I don't understand the debating societies of today.

 

[Malcador]

They had decent ones at my school. But regardless, is the approach of at least attempting to be cold and collected.

[Guard Dog]

Well I've had enough of this farce. Trump is repeating the same things over and over and Clinton is copping a condescending little sneer that is just pissing me off. I could not imagine two more unlikable human beings. F--k them both. I'm going to watch baseball.

[Namutree]

Trump walked into a trap when he started talking about a tax cut to the wealthy. He should've contested the premise of the moderator even if it was technically accurate.

Edited September 27, 2016 by Namutree

[Hurlshort]

Somehow I ended up with neighbors over thay wanted to watch it. This is ugly. Bit surprised how long they've spent on business talk. That would seem to favor Trump.

[Namutree]

Somehow I ended up with neighbors over thay wanted to watch it. This is ugly. Bit surprised how long they've spent on business talk. That would seem to favor Trump.

True. I think he's losing this a bit.

 

 

EDIT: Got to he emails part. Nevermind; he's winning now. A quick turnabout! We'll see what happens.

Edited September 27, 2016 by Namutree

[Malcador]

Identifying winner and losers in these things is always so tainted with bias, it's not worth thinking about, heh. Pretty weird to have neighbours visiting to watch it, but hey, at least people are caring about the election. I think. Maybe ?