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Bethesda f**ked up FO3 and you did it right. FO franchise is dead without something like FO4NV... I'd fund a Kickstarter to buy the FO franchise away from Bethesda, and get it in the hands of a studio that know what RPG means! Thanks for your time.

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I appreciate the enthusiasm for Obsidian, but this request is unrealistic.  Fallout 4 was a huge success.  It made a pile of money for Bethesda.  It is far from dead, rather the franchise is bigger than it has ever been.  I don't like the direction Bethesda has taken it either, but it is hard to argue with the sales numbers.  Obsidian cannot afford it, and no kickstarter is going to raise enough to tempt Bethesda to sell.

 

The best case scenario is that Bethesda gives Obsidian another chance to make a spin off game.  But neither company seems to have much reason to do that now.  Obsidian is busy trying to develop their own IP and Bethesda is going to be very careful with the Fallout IP right now, given its immense value to them.

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Yeah... a Kickstarter wouldn't come close to accomplishing that..

 

Obsidian could just start their own Falloutesque IP, but they seem to be more interested in magic for the time being..

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I appreciate the enthusiasm for Obsidian, but this request is unrealistic.  Fallout 4 was a huge success.  It made a pile of money for Bethesda.  It is far from dead, rather the franchise is bigger than it has ever been.  I don't like the direction Bethesda has taken it either, but it is hard to argue with the sales numbers.  Obsidian cannot afford it, and no kickstarter is going to raise enough to tempt Bethesda to sell.

 

The best case scenario is that Bethesda gives Obsidian another chance to make a spin off game.  But neither company seems to have much reason to do that now.  Obsidian is busy trying to develop their own IP and Bethesda is going to be very careful with the Fallout IP right now, given its immense value to them.

Thanks for the reply. I know a kickstarter is unrealistic... it is just FO4 is so sickeningly made for the lowest common denominator, and I like the format of first person role playing game, but we got a story on rails with FO4, and no real roleplay... <incert sickened, sad, and frustrated emoticon, here>

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Obsidian could just start their own Falloutesque IP,

 

They should. And it needen't even be a Fallout/Wasteland type of "desert & destruction" setting.

 

but they seem to be more interested in magic for the time being..

 

 

Which is a damn shame as far as I'm concerned.

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I appreciate the enthusiasm for Obsidian, but this request is unrealistic.  Fallout 4 was a huge success.  It made a pile of money for Bethesda.  It is far from dead, rather the franchise is bigger than it has ever been.  I don't like the direction Bethesda has taken it either, but it is hard to argue with the sales numbers.  Obsidian cannot afford it, and no kickstarter is going to raise enough to tempt Bethesda to sell.

 

The best case scenario is that Bethesda gives Obsidian another chance to make a spin off game.  But neither company seems to have much reason to do that now.  Obsidian is busy trying to develop their own IP and Bethesda is going to be very careful with the Fallout IP right now, given its immense value to them.

 

Yeah there's no way in hell that Bethesda would sell it now, but I don't think it's much bigger. With their newest game they managed to turn off a large minority of the fanbase. A huge chunk of the money they made were on pre-orders. And from what I've seen with Skyrim and Fallout 4, I doubt I'll be getting ES VI or Fallout 5.

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Today's oxymoron: a large minority. I'd guess it lies somewhere between zero and 49%. ;)

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Obs could make new postapocaliptic world and spiritual successor to Fallout. But, I think it won't happen because of the ongoing projects.

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Obsidian could just start their own Falloutesque IP,

 

They should. And it needen't even be a Fallout/Wasteland type of "desert & destruction" setting.

 

but they seem to be more interested in magic for the time being..

 

Which is a damn shame as far as I'm concerned.

 

Yeah. It's just what sells. Unfortunately even indie developers have to bend to the will of the consumer. And by the way it looks, this niche CRPG market will buy any game in traditional post apoc/fantasy/magic setting, rendering most attempts at something new a waste of resources. At least Obsidian is leaning towards something slightly different in Tyranny, but it's not different enough for me. Maybe PoE will be a steady enough earner for them to eventually do more risky titles. Hopefully whatever Boyarsky and Cain are working on is one of those things, otherwise it's awfully quiet on the Obsidian front, and it's pretty boring seeing no news, month after month.

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Yeah there's no way in hell that Bethesda would sell it now, but I don't think it's much bigger. With their newest game they managed to turn off a large minority of the fanbase. A huge chunk of the money they made were on pre-orders. And from what I've seen with Skyrim and Fallout 4, I doubt I'll be getting ES VI or Fallout 5.

 

 

Almost 74,000 people kickstarted PoE.  If every one of those people were turned off by the direction that Fallout has gone, it would still be a drop in the bucket.  It sold 12 million copies in the first couple days.  It had an introduction on Conan. 

 

 

 

I'm not happy about it, but the game no longer being much of a traditional RPG and the game becoming a mainstream hit might be connected.  Most of us are niche gamers.  Bethesda doesn't want to turn us off, but we are not the priority.

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Dear Bethesda,

 

Would you please let us buy the Fallout IP . We think we can make better Fallout games than you are making.

 

Love 

 

Obsidian Entertainment

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Dear Obsidian Entertainment

 

HA HA. HAHAHAHAHAHA, HA HA.

 

Go to hell.

 

Love Bethesda

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Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a post apocalyptic setting where the removal of industrialisation has benefited the world, the Earth is healing and evolving in strange ways to deal with the scars of the past and even (what remains of) mankind has had to adapt to this. Start with something small and tightly designed like the first Fallout, a compact setting with a distinctive aesthetic like both Arcanum and Fallout had. A man can dream.

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I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin.

 

Tea for the teapot!

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  Fallout 4 was a huge success.  It made a pile of money for Bethesda.  It is far from dead, rather the franchise is bigger than it has ever been. 

In the same sense as the pets in [stephen King's] Pet Cemetery. :(

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  Fallout 4 was a huge success.  It made a pile of money for Bethesda.  It is far from dead, rather the franchise is bigger than it has ever been. 

In the same sense as the pets in [stephen King's] Pet Cemetery. :(

 

Or the zombies in a zombie movie! lol

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I'd have thought the obvious movie reference would be Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

 

Fallout Franchise goes to sleep after Fallout 2, wakes up as Fallout 3, an alien imposter that looks like, but isn't the same as, Fallout 2. 

 

Not that I dislike the Fallout games even with the changed direction/premise, but come on, Body Snatchers is the obvious film parallel. :p

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When you try to please everybody you very rarely come up with anything interesting, but it is a success and that unfortunately means no more Fallout RPG in the sense we understand the word.

 

Fallout is basically that band you used to love until they sold out and went all commercial. They had meant and hoped to have wider appeal all along but you don't like them anymore because they aren't true to their roots.

 

I'm off the Fallout train personally, but I'm sure Bethesda is laughing all the way to the bank.  

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greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER.

That is all.

 

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As much as I would like to see Obsidian take over the Fallout IP I don't see this happening anytime soon if at all (at best we might get another Fallout: New Vegas style side game but I also suspect that's not likely to happen).

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I would back it simply for it to serve as an ersatz petition... But I don't expect it would be completable, and deliverable; though it would not surprise me if it got fully funded ~before being disqualified and canceled. 

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When you try to please everybody you very rarely come up with anything interesting, but it is a success and that unfortunately means no more Fallout RPG in the sense we understand the word.

 

Fallout is basically that band you used to love until they sold out and went all commercial. They had meant and hoped to have wider appeal all along but you don't like them anymore because they aren't true to their roots.

 

I'm off the Fallout train personally, but I'm sure Bethesda is laughing all the way to the bank.  

It's cool to see so much enthusiasm for an RPG-style fallout again. Really cool. 

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Actually, there are two series called Fallout. One ist by Black Isle, the other one is by Bethesda. There's no way these two can be related. I like Black Isle's Fallout better, but the newer one has its moments, too.

 

Seriously, I know I will play Fallout 4 someday, though it'll never be as good as the classics. Curiosity'll make me buy the GotY once it comes out, but let's be honest. I used to love Bethesda for Morrowind, but their games these days feel like it's not even the same company any more. Well, it probably really isn't due to staff changes. Sad but true. And I'll never forgive them what they've done to the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. character system. It was the only thing left from the original Fallout games. They shouldn't have gotten rid of it.

 

I have stopped hoping for a new classic style Fallout a long time ago, even long before Bethesda bought the franchise. I'd also take something new that has a similar feel to the original. But I'm not hoping for a true sequel, because Bethesda will never let go of this franchise. At least not as long as they're still getting a lot of money out of it. So, let's just cherish the memory as we used to before Fallout 3.

 

Still, maybe Obsidian will come up with a new game in a similar setting? That would be great.

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