Guard Dog Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I've never understood how IQ tests are relevant to anything. IQ is supposed to represent and individuals capacity to learn. How is a test that is centered on acquired knowledge helpful in that? Stephen Hawking was born in an advanced country where he had the opportunity to receive and education suitable to his intellect. Suppose he had been born in Kenya to farmers? He would still be just as intelligent only there would be little opportunity to do anything with it. If you give Kenyan Stephen Hawking an IQ test that asks questions based on acquired knowledge he'd probably get an 85 too. This is normally exactly what people say who dont have a high IQ !!! GD dont be a hater Hey, I'm sure mine could boil water.... as long as we're using the right scale! 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) I've never understood how IQ tests are relevant to anything. IQ is supposed to represent and individuals capacity to learn. How is a test that is centered on acquired knowledge helpful in that? Stephen Hawking was born in an advanced country where he had the opportunity to receive and education suitable to his intellect. Suppose he had been born in Kenya to farmers? He would still be just as intelligent only there would be little opportunity to do anything with it. If you give Kenyan Stephen Hawking an IQ test that asks questions based on acquired knowledge he'd probably get an 85 too. I dunno mate, tests I seen were more focused on logical thinking which doesn't mean 'acquiring knowledge' - its more a memory thing. IQ should be using this knowledge correctly. Reading a book (and remembering it) is acquiring knowledge. You can read whole math book and remember it, it doesn't mean you know math Edited July 4, 2016 by Chilloutman I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I've never understood how IQ tests are relevant to anything. IQ is supposed to represent and individuals capacity to learn. How is a test that is centered on acquired knowledge helpful in that? Stephen Hawking was born in an advanced country where he had the opportunity to receive and education suitable to his intellect. Suppose he had been born in Kenya to farmers? He would still be just as intelligent only there would be little opportunity to do anything with it. If you give Kenyan Stephen Hawking an IQ test that asks questions based on acquired knowledge he'd probably get an 85 too. I dunno mate, tests I seen were more focused on logical thinking which doesn't mean 'acquiring knowledge' - its more a memory thing. IQ should be using this knowledge correctly It's been a while since I took one but I remember quite a few questions that would have required a more-than-basic understanding of math & language "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I've never understood how IQ tests are relevant to anything. IQ is supposed to represent and individuals capacity to learn. How is a test that is centered on acquired knowledge helpful in that? Stephen Hawking was born in an advanced country where he had the opportunity to receive and education suitable to his intellect. Suppose he had been born in Kenya to farmers? He would still be just as intelligent only there would be little opportunity to do anything with it. If you give Kenyan Stephen Hawking an IQ test that asks questions based on acquired knowledge he'd probably get an 85 too. I dunno mate, tests I seen were more focused on logical thinking which doesn't mean 'acquiring knowledge' - its more a memory thing. IQ should be using this knowledge correctly It's been a while since I took one but I remember quite a few questions that would have required a more-than-basic understanding of math & language Well, not these I remember, if you don't count numerical series for example. More of tests were pictograms and such I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I just tried to take one online. They ad-bombed every page then wanted $10 to e-mail me the result. I think just enduring the pop ups should be a 10 point penalty and actually sending them money should be a 20 point penalty! "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Come to think of it, the only popular litterature on the subject is the Bell Curve, but i haven't ever gotten myself to read it though and i quite certain that it has gotten quite the critique. On the other hand, claiming that different ethnic groups developed in different conditions in different parts of the world for millennia would have no effect whatsoever in their group mentality or behaviour and that political theories is the only solution is also preposterous. I am however unsure where the nature ends and nurture begins (see for example Thomas Sowell's research on early 20th century development among black, jews and other minorities. Different factors and potentials for each group and all that). "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I've never understood how IQ tests are relevant to anything. IQ is supposed to represent and individuals capacity to learn. How is a test that is centered on acquired knowledge helpful in that? Stephen Hawking was born in an advanced country where he had the opportunity to receive and education suitable to his intellect. Suppose he had been born in Kenya to farmers? He would still be just as intelligent only there would be little opportunity to do anything with it. If you give Kenyan Stephen Hawking an IQ test that asks questions based on acquired knowledge he'd probably get an 85 too. This is normally exactly what people say who dont have a high IQ !!! GD dont be a hater Hey, I'm sure mine could boil water.... as long as we're using the right scale! My personal experience with so called high IQ is other types of insights are needed to somehow make it meaningful ...and most so called high IQ people dont have those other insights "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I was hoping for some phrenology charts. 2 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I was hoping for some phrenology charts. That is exactly what people say who want people to think they have a high IQ !!! "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence Yes its a wikipedia article, but its sourced. The IQ differences are real, the debate is on the causes. Nutrition is a major factor, as maps of food security and average IQ are very similar, but at the same time there is a debate on whether socio economic status causes IQ differences, or the differences in status are a result of IQ. Edited July 4, 2016 by Oerwinde The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 There's a direct correlation between obsession with IQ and autism. 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) Even babies can be racist Edited July 4, 2016 by WDeranged 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Even babies can be racist This story cant be true? Whats wrong with people,if this story is true then the teachers or people who seriously said those things must get fired "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 There's a direct correlation between obsession with IQ and autism. Dont get this? I assume its a joke .... "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 There's a direct correlation between obsession with IQ and autism being a smug, elitist prick. Fix'd. "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 There's a direct correlation between obsession with IQ and autism being a smug, elitist prick. Fix'd. Come on, if you've had any conversation with the idiots who spam iq infographs and shout cuck every third word you know that they're suffering from some sort of mental illness and sexual frustration. 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I have to admit that i'm obsessed with my IQ score...when i'm playing Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. 1 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I have to admit that i'm obsessed with my IQ score...when i'm playing Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. Yes this is the normal comment that someone makes who wishes they had a high IQ, realizes they simply dont but then uses modern technology to distract himself "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I've met people with ridiculously high IQ. They seemed to be more obsessed with weird stuff, like using formal logic notation to prove the most efficient code written or dwelve into esotericism or metaphysics. Point being, they seem to be on their own plane of consciousness and not care about wordly stuff that much. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Come on, if you've had any conversation with the idiots who spam iq infographs and shout cuck every third word you know that they're suffering from some sort of mental illness and sexual frustration. Why equate that with autism? Autism is a pretty wide spectrum of stuff...seems kinda silly to generalize like that when it really just boils down to idiots being idiots. 1 Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Muslims Are the True Feminists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namutree Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Muslims Are the True Feminists No one is a "true feminist". Edited July 5, 2016 by Namutree "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Highlanders are the true Scotsmen. Come on, if you've had any conversation with the idiots who spam iq infographs and shout cuck every third word you know that they're suffering from some sort of mental illness and sexual frustration. Why equate that with autism? Autism is a pretty wide spectrum of stuff...seems kinda silly to generalize like that when it really just boils down to idiots being idiots. Because that triggers the alt-right the most. Edited July 5, 2016 by KaineParker 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Muslims Are the True Feminists Welp, that's it. Restart the experiment, we failed utterly. Women, get back into kitchen while we figure out what went wrong. Highlanders are the true Scotsmen. Come on, if you've had any conversation with the idiots who spam iq infographs and shout cuck every third word you know that they're suffering from some sort of mental illness and sexual frustration. Why equate that with autism? Autism is a pretty wide spectrum of stuff...seems kinda silly to generalize like that when it really just boils down to idiots being idiots. Because that triggers the alt-right the most. To be fair, lefties have been called communists or socialists as a killswitch to stifle open debate for ages now so i see it as a natural progression of the times for the right to experience the same. The "fun" part comes when we see groups of people unapologetic to their beliefs in either spectrum marching down the streets, because that's where we are heading. 1 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 The "fun" part comes when we see groups of people unapologetic to their beliefs in either spectrum marching down the streets, because that's where we are heading. Can't come soon enough. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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