ShadySands Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) I'm not exactly sure what you mean rule by executive order but Obama actually hasn't passed Bush in number...yet. And they both have less than pretty much everyone else in recent history Source PS thanks Obama Edited January 14, 2016 by ShadySands 1 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I'm not exactly sure what you mean rule by executive order but Obama actually hasn't passed Bush in number...yet. And they both have less than pretty much everyone else in recent history Source PS thanks Obama Yeah, I looked at that article as well when I wrote the above post. But I guess it is primarily a matter of what the executive orders are about. I know Bush got flak for that from the left-wing, right now the right-wing are swarming all over Obama for the same reasons. The funny thing is that precedents are set for an increasingly authoritarian presidential role - but this is all due to how the system is constructed. If everyone is to follow what their voters want, that is the only logical conclusion, apart from reforming the entire system. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 In response to the 1980 video I posted with Bush and Reagan, I see it as a failure by the government of both countries. Sure, it's easy to blame the immigrants sneaking across the border in search for a better life. They are an easy target, they can't really defend themselves while working minimum wage jobs and avoiding INS. But really, there has been a huge failure between the US and Mexican governments. The US is supposed to be 'the most stable economy in the world'. Why the heck do we share a gigantic border, and yet we can't find a way to help Mexico become a fully developed nation? I read a good article awhile back about how devastating the growth of China's economy has been to Mexico. Basically all the major corporations that were starting to build in Mexico ditched those plans and went to Asia. But hey, corporations gonna corporate. I don't blame the immigrants, they're only acting in their own self-interest, the way normal non-socialist people are expected to behave. I blame our own lawless government. As far as helping Mexico, I'm pretty sure we helped them more than any other country, but we can't get rid of their crime and corruption for them, which is what mainly holds them back. Also Mexicans aren't the only illegal immigrants, 40% are visa overstays, and from a lot of different countries, the biggest block in the future is expected to be the Chinese. I'm not exactly sure what you mean rule by executive order but Obama actually hasn't passed Bush in number...yet. And they both have less than pretty much everyone else in recent history Source PS thanks Obama I've said it before, an executive order can be completely legitimate exercise of the President's constitutional power, or it can be a completely illegal and unconstitutional usurpation of Congressional power, depending what that order is. Obviously people are upset about the latter, which Obola has been doing shamelessly. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Let me tell you a dirty little secret about career politicians. They don't believe in anything. They believe in what they think voters want to hear. Last week the Republicans sent a bill to repeal the ACA (Obamacare) to the President who, of course, vetoed it. Now bear in mind this is the ACA that THEY fully funded last month in the Omnibus Spending Bill. Had they actually wanted to kill this thing, that was their opportunity right there. Why did they do this? Because the republican voters are at their gates with torches and pitchforks and they were hoping a stupid, futile and useless gesture like that will mollify the peasants. No one in DC gives a damn about illegal immigration. They don't live on the border. They will never be the victim of a crime committed by an illegal that has been caught and released several times. The only reason it is ever brought up is because it inflames passions on both the right and the left. Passions can be fanned into votes. It may seem cynical but nothing ever said by a career politician is ever genuine. All of it is calculated. The only truthful thing Jeb Bush said in the last debate was "I'm Jeb Bush and I want your vote". This seems to describe Jeb and Hillary well enough, yes. Of course they were forced to pass the Omnibus Spending Bill, the alternative would be a government shutdown. History has shown that Republicans fare worse if they use that tool. The truth is that the American political system is absurd and requires some level of civil understanding between the congressional majorities and the President in order for things to work at all. Absent this, you will get anarchy. And I can imagine only very few actually want that, and most of those who do want it live in Russia and China. I would really like to see President Cruz facing constant government shutdowns. That would be absolutely hilarious and highlight the hypocrisy of the politicians and absurdity of the system. The fact that Obama has taken rule by executive order one step further than Bush is already very funny, of course. There are two other types of fish to be found in the political sea. Ideologues like Barack Obama. They are scary because the first type I mentioned while despicable people, are predictable. Self preservation keeps them in check. Ideologues believe they are right, they are RIGHT dammit. They are smarter than you and better than you so it is only right they tell you what to do. (This is what Hayek called "the fatal conceit"). They don't care how their will gets done or who it hurts. I think BO is ready to leave office and he'd probably like to give us all the middle finger as he does because we put up so much resistance against him. How dare we! The last kind are the ones with an axe to grind. Ron Paul, Donald Trump, Ben Carson, etc. Some of these are ok, some are not. Depends on the axe. But it seems to me a bit bigoted to call out Obama specifically here. An ideologue is a person who makes political decisions from a formulated and coherent ideology, as opposed to ad-hoc decisions made from sentiment or reasons of popularity. So what are you and Ron Paul if not ideologues of the Libertarian variant? How would you have acted if you were president? IMO all politicians should be ideologues and nothing else. It would be so much easier to vote then. I wouldn't call Ron Paul an ideologue necessarily, he was a Republican with strong libertarian leanings rather than a "true believer". I'm probably closer to being one than he is although there are some decidedly un-libertarian things I'm in favor of (restoring Glass-Stengal for example) and opposed to (open carry for example). But as for the notion of all politicians being ideologues the result would be a government completely paralyzed by the intransigence of it's members. Sound good to me! A lot of my fellow Americans bemoan government gridlock but the truth is when they all cancel each other out they can't screw anyone over. It's when one party holds all the cards I lose sleep at night. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Yeah, **** borders, laws and ****. They're just lines and letters on papers maaan. "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 ^hahahaha absolutely perfect, I love every second of this. Consider me entertained. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Whoa. Maybe Trump is just the greatest comedian ever, and this is just a very elaborate bit? He's outdone Andy Kaufman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 That. Was. Awesome. I think Ill go kick someones ass now. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 What the **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 What the **** Oh come on, have some fun with it. Sing-a-long now! Aaaah one, ah two, ahonetwothreee Cowardice! Are you serious? Apologies for freedom, I can’t handle this. When freedom rings, answer the call! On your feet, stand up tall! Freedom’s on our shoulders, USA! Enemies of freedom face the music, c’mon boys, take them down! President Donald Trump knows how to make America great. Deal from strength or get crushed every time! Over here - USA! - over there - USA! Freedom and Liberty everywhere. Oh say can you see, it's not so easy, but we have to stand up tall and answer freedom's call. USA! USA! The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave - USA! The stars and stripes are flying, let's celebrate our freedom, inspire proudly freedom to the world. A merit to American pride. It's attitude, it's who we are, stand up tall! We're the red, white and blue. Fiercly free, that's who! Our colours don't run, no sirree. Over here - USA! - over there - USA! Freedom and Liberty everywhere. Oh say can you see, it's not so easy, but we have to stand up tall and answer freedom's call. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Freedom and Liberty advert from person that most loudly opposes both, maybe it is meant to be ironic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Is the chorus portion sampled from The Army Goes Rolling Along? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 FreedomEagle is here to inspire, proudly, freedom to the world. Guess its better than our current kowtow-ing princess. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I listened to the debate today. You know the thing about Trump is he is actually getting better at BEING a candidate. Rubio handled himself well, Cruz not so much. The rest can just go bugger off now. They are like those folks who bought more Powerball tickets than they could afford and are now hoping against hope. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Cruz is probably the guy at the bottom of my list. I am not sure if I share any common ground with him. Trump and Rubio at least have said a thing or two that I agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Thread is very long. Thread is closed. Make new thread if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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