Halt!

Trying PotD solo, finally got past a stupid group of mobs, and this happens. Halt!

 

lolz

Why don't you just shoot it?

Well, he certainly made his point very clear. But I'm surprised that the mobs seem to have infinite uses of their spells. Had always assumed they'd have just as much of a limited spell usage as the player's chars

Hammerzeit!

Edited April 14, 2015 by Luckmann

Well, he certainly made his point very clear. But I'm surprised that the mobs seem to have infinite uses of their spells. Had always assumed they'd have just as much of a limited spell usage as the player's chars

Nope. In one of my PotD fights a lot of my guys got KO'd and it came down to my fighter tank and a Xaurip Champion. I would have attritioned him out, except he used Lay on Hands on himself 27 times. Eventually he got through all of the Fighter's Health, negating his Constant Recovery.

 

Xaurips don't play fair.

Gandalf the Xaurip

Yeah, the fact AI have infinite spell uses gets really *really* old. Anyone who has had a drawn out fight against a party with numerous clerics can attest to this. Unlimited healing and spamming of pillar spells for the AI makes it REALLY tedious.

Edited April 14, 2015 by Elizabeth Sterling

 

Well, he certainly made his point very clear. But I'm surprised that the mobs seem to have infinite uses of their spells. Had always assumed they'd have just as much of a limited spell usage as the player's chars

Nope. In one of my PotD fights a lot of my guys got KO'd and it came down to my fighter tank and a Xaurip Champion. I would have attritioned him out, except he used Lay on Hands on himself 27 times. Eventually he got through all of the Fighter's Health, negating his Constant Recovery.

 

Xaurips don't play fair.

 

Yeah, I had a similar situation, except I had another person still up and they were able to finish the critter off after about five minutes.  Infinite spell use is ridiculous cheating.

 

That said, I kinda appreciated it in another fight where it came down to Eder and the guy whom a) Eder couldn't damage, and b) kept casting fireballs on top of the both of them until he killed himself.

Knockdown pillar! ... Knockdown pillar! ... Knockdown pillar! ... Knockdown pillar! ... Knockdown pillar! ... Knockdown pillar! ... Knockdown pillar! ... Knockdown pillar! ... Knockdown pillar! ... Knockdown ....

 

I wish my priest could do that in every single fight.

and it seems enemies do not have health, you cant down a fighter with constant recovery trough health, if you dont have dps to cancel out his constant recovery hell stand fighting forever

Well...that certainly puts a crimp in solo (or even 2 or 3 perhaps). Enemy unlimited casting? Was that actually intentional? Does it happen outside of PoTD? They should remove that "feature". It's just a tad on the silly side. Sorry, Obs, but it is. Giving AI some advantage is one thing, but that's just ...

 

My full-sized Normal party never noticed this, since they whomp mostly everything fairly quickly, outside of a few certain encounters. Haven't gotten around to tiny or solo parties yet.

Yeah I'm in favor of enemy npcs using the same classes, features and limitations as us. More realistic and fair that way. If I'm fighting a bleak walker, and I'm a bleak walker myself, it'd be silly that he can somehow use his abilities unlimited times while I cant. Just as an example

I found it amusing. I clicked on him expecting that he would sometimes miss hiss roll and fail the spell, where I would have a chance to run and kill him.

 

Then I went to have breakfast and came back, which is when I took the screen shot. No success. LOAD!

^ Oh stuff like that can definitely be a chuckle. I just find it wrong to design like that.

 

Reminds me of some RTS games where the enemy AI basically can spawn new units forever endlessly even with no resources left.

Well...that certainly puts a crimp in solo (or even 2 or 3 perhaps). Enemy unlimited casting? Was that actually intentional? Does it happen outside of PoTD? They should remove that "feature". It's just a tad on the silly side. Sorry, Obs, but it is. Giving AI some advantage is one thing, but that's just ...

 

My full-sized Normal party never noticed this, since they whomp mostly everything fairly quickly, outside of a few certain encounters. Haven't gotten around to tiny or solo parties yet.

I suspects it happens outside of PoTD too, as I remembered Dank Spores seem to have a seemingly endless supply of domination on my team. 

Edited April 15, 2015 by brionkj

Did I mention that the knockdown pillar is my favorite most amazing priest spell?

Did I mention that the knockdown pillar is my favorite most amazing priest spell?

 

Mine too. Runner up is Repulsing Seal.

yup. repulsing seal made me unscratched in that level 5 drake battle. just spam the field with it, go to first circle, enemy down, attack, when they get up, retreat to the second circle, attack

 

BOOM

You cant spam them anymore with the latest patch. Only one seal at a time.

I hate asymmetric combat design this much.

It's okay for the game to cheat but not you. Balance^TM

 

disabling conditions counterplay mechanics are disabled in PoE.

This is actually pretty common - I read a fascinating article by the Galactic Civilizations lead, Brad Wardell, about that.  His point was that computer AIs in virtually all games aren't playing by anything like the same rules that the players are.  GalCiv was actually an exception - the rules for players and AIs are identical in that game, and it's arguably the most challenging AI on the market.    (It helps that it's a space game, which means no real "terrain", and that it has deliberately simple rules.

 

To make the AI tractable they give unlimited spells, but a restricted number of them.  Otherwise the AI would have to choose between dozens of options.  It's the same reason why the IE games gave you "orc archer" and "orc warrior", in a system where all of the players can use either bows or swords.

I would think the AI would already have the advantage, simply because it doesn't have to worry about anything beyond the current battle.  Giving them unlimited spells is over the top, even for me.