Journalism and sexism in the games industry

[Volourn]

What's up with GG? Well, I'm still alive so Bruce and co continue to fial in their mission event hoguh they had already proclaimed victory. their death threats are laughable and scary at the same time.

[Meshugger]

Well, well, well. What kind of admission do we got here?

 

 

[Volourn]

She's getting paid 13k a month to be sexist, racist, hateful, bigoted, nazish, murderish person. BRILLANT.

[ShadySands]

Man, I need to get me a Patreon

[Fighter]

Oh my god the description on her Patreon page...

 

There is like one sentence about game development and the rest is just shameless sucking off that victimhood for all its worth. Seriously it's like a parody.

[Keyrock]

Being a "victim" is good money, it seems.  And here I am working for my money like a sucker.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Keyrock

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Man, I need to get me a Patreon

You'll have to come up with a problem first. If you can pull off otherkin, I'll gladly harass you through burner accounts for 25%.

[Longknife]

This got me depressed all day:

 

http://imgur.com/5MCp9WG

[Namutree]

This got me depressed all day:

 

http://imgur.com/5MCp9WG

What a cry baby. "Oh no, Brianna Wu gets money for nothing! She's rich, why should I continue drawing if people give Brianna Wu money for nothing? OH THE INHUMANITY!!!" Get over it whiner.

 

Could you imagine if everyone had her attitude? I'm not rich either. WHY SHOULD I GO ON!? 

[Longknife]

 

This got me depressed all day:

 

http://imgur.com/5MCp9WG

What a cry baby. "Oh no, Brianna Wu gets money for nothing! She's rich, why should I continue drawing if people give Brianna Wu money for nothing? OH THE INHUMANITY!!!" Get over it whiner.

 

Could you imagine if everyone had her attitude? I'm not rich either. WHY SHOULD I GO ON!? 

 

 

 

Depresses me all the same because it just feels warped to me that someone who received $200,000 as a gift on their 18th birthday (or 21st? whatever) and lives in one of the most expensive cities in the United States is now making thousands in donations for absolutely nothing.

 

 

On another note, anyone know a good website for checking how much traffic a website has gotten?

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

This got me depressed all day:

 

http://imgur.com/5MCp9WG

Well you're disabled Longknife, why don't you join in on Shady and I's grand patreon scam? Edited January 8, 2015 by KaineParker

[Longknife]

Seriously though, what's a good website that tracks traffic other websites have gotten?

 

I ask because of this:

 

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/kotaku.com

 

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/escapistmagazine.com

 

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/8chan.co

 

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/gawker.com

 

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ign.com

 

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/polygon.com

[Darkpriest]

She's getting paid 13k a month to be sexist, racist, hateful, bigoted, nazish, murderish person. BRILLANT.

 

i might change my career path then, doing nothing but flaming and getting 13k / mo, sounds like an easy job for me

[BruceVC]

 

 

":Glad to see GamerGate has completely abandoned all pretence of being about ethics in journalism and revealed itself to be little more than reactionary whining about "feminists," "SJWs," and "progressives." But hey, thanks to them, relative nobodies like Sarkeesian, Quinn, and Wu are now getting far more exposure than they would have otherwise. Good job, GG."

 

That's because feminists are evil and hate women and men. They slutshame women. they try to get women fired soemtimes even succeeding. They try to murder women. They talk about raping women like its their duty.

\

And, we haven't even discussed their opinion of racial minorities. *shudder*

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

 

Spoken by that shining example of humanity, Pat Roberston. Reactionary hysteria is always hilarious, whatever form it takes. I'm personally waiting for the moment when someone claims that water fluoridation is some insidious SJW plot to sterilise straight white males.

 

"I can no longer sit back and allow SJW infiltration, SJW indoctrination, SJW subversion and the international SJW conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!"

 

 

So GG has been established for more or less 6 months, it seems like  a good time to do a summary of where the movement is, what it has accomplished and what the future holds for GG

 

i know many of you guys do spend time following this movement and updating us on developments so lets analyze the state of GG and of course this is subjective..no one is going to hold you to it 

 

• What is current state of GG?
• What changes is GG directly or indirectly responsible for 
• What are the future objectives of GG?

 

 

I have to say I'm very surprised and disappointed by the lack of response to my 3 questions

 

For last 6 months we have had certain active members on this thread spend hours giving us updates and making long posts about corruption in the gaming industry and posting twitter comments. But when asked to give valid feedback about the core state of GG there has  been no feedback? The only person who did respond, Namutree, isn't even that active on this thread

 

TN, Longknife, KP and others considering your post history in this discussion I was really expecting you to at least try to respond to my 3 questions?

[ManifestedISO]

Boo, hate. I really enjoyed second issue of Angela of Asgard. She is no nonsense in the extreme. Bucky Barnes was good this month, too. Punisher got laid out flat, god dammit.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

https://twitter.com/infinitechan/status/552963452436623360

 

Welp, looks like 8chan is under a DDoS attack.

 

I have to say I'm very surprised and disappointed by the lack of response to my 3 questions

When several people have stated that they don't want to respond to you in this thread because they don't think you're posting in good faith, are you really surprised when you're ignored?

[Meshugger]

 

• What is current state of GG?
• What changes is GG directly or indirectly responsible for 
• What are the future objectives of GG?

 

- The current state is to ever expose corruption. They are the Paladins of our society.

- What they have done is that they have managed to make FTC change their guidelines for covert commercial linking: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2nz204/important_ftc_update_4_ftc_confirms_that_yes/

- They have by Gawkers own admission cost them millions in lost revenue

- Raised for so many charities that i do not even remember

- The future objective is to burn down Gawker and Vox media, expose all frauds in the industry (like FemFreq) and promote sites to have better standards.

[Blarghagh]

 

 

 

":Glad to see GamerGate has completely abandoned all pretence of being about ethics in journalism and revealed itself to be little more than reactionary whining about "feminists," "SJWs," and "progressives." But hey, thanks to them, relative nobodies like Sarkeesian, Quinn, and Wu are now getting far more exposure than they would have otherwise. Good job, GG."

 

That's because feminists are evil and hate women and men. They slutshame women. they try to get women fired soemtimes even succeeding. They try to murder women. They talk about raping women like its their duty.

\

And, we haven't even discussed their opinion of racial minorities. *shudder*

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

 

Spoken by that shining example of humanity, Pat Roberston. Reactionary hysteria is always hilarious, whatever form it takes. I'm personally waiting for the moment when someone claims that water fluoridation is some insidious SJW plot to sterilise straight white males.

 

"I can no longer sit back and allow SJW infiltration, SJW indoctrination, SJW subversion and the international SJW conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!"

 

 

So GG has been established for more or less 6 months, it seems like  a good time to do a summary of where the movement is, what it has accomplished and what the future holds for GG

 

i know many of you guys do spend time following this movement and updating us on developments so lets analyze the state of GG and of course this is subjective..no one is going to hold you to it 

 

• What is current state of GG?
• What changes is GG directly or indirectly responsible for 
• What are the future objectives of GG?

 

 

I have to say I'm very surprised and disappointed by the lack of response to my 3 questions

 

For last 6 months we have had certain active members on this thread spend hours giving us updates and making long posts about corruption in the gaming industry and posting twitter comments. But when asked to give valid feedback about the core state of GG there has  been no feedback? The only person who did respond, Namutree, isn't even that active on this thread

 

TN, Longknife, KP and others considering your post history in this discussion I was really expecting you to at least try to respond to my 3 questions?

 

 

I haven't even been in this thread since before you posted those questions, I think. I've been cutting down my time in this thread simply because it often riles me up into making extremely long posts that take up time that I could be spending working on interesting things.

 

- The current state of GG, size wise, is mostly the same as it was, it was looking like it was shrinking rapidly but after the holidays were over it ballooned right back up.

 

- Personality wise, I can see a rift forming between those who care for specific personalities (such as those digging up dirt on srhbutts and attacking intel over being "partnered" with femfreq for their women in tech initiative) and a hard core ethics group, characterized by people such as Oliver Campbell, Brad Wardell and Jenn of Hardwire, who seem to be slowly forming themselves into a genuine ethics watchdog that will endure far after the hashtag goes out of use. However, I've seen a lot of arguments happen between different GGers in the last few days, more than usual, so GamerGate, if it was ever even somewhat united, might fracture over this difference. But I could be wrong.

 

- As for changes, this question was answered to my satisfaction. Influencing some FCC regulations, getting websites to adopt ethics policies, funding several charities and a lot of women in games industry projects (most from TFYC organisation). Apparently GG does this out of spite or something, but at least that seems to be getting results while everyone else is just running around complaining about gamer culture when they could be doing their own charity drives and women's projects.

 

- The future objectives of GG are the same as before. Ethics in game (and at this point it's really started to add media) journalism - either clean up your act or GG will try to take you down. The ones doing this intelligently seem to be that core forming into a media watchdog. Gawker is unlikely to be forgiven at this point because the whole controversy dragged up all the other **** they've done (such as hosting celebrity sex videos and spreading copyrighted material) and Gawker is already close to going down, so that seems to be an objective, and Vox media is getting a fair share of attention now because they are perceived to be responsible for a lot of biased coverage as well as the brunt of Reddit censorship. I haven't followed that particular outrage so I don't know if that's correct. I've had other things on my mind.

 

Satisfied?

[Longknife]

TN, Longknife, KP and others considering your post history in this discussion I was really expecting you to at least try to respond to my 3 questions?

 

 

 

Seriously dude, shove it up your ass.

 

I'm sick of your passive aggressive bull****. It's the same every time: non-answers and every attempt made to dodge questions. And now this?

 

I've brought that up to you I dunno HOW many times, and every single time it's "oh I seem to have missed that, can you ask it again?" If you had any interest in a serious debate, you'd make an effort to look yourself. You don't. There's a reason I went quiet when you asked to see those questions again: to see if you'd look them up yourself, (at the time the thread was what, 7 pages?) and you never did. And then you sit here and make these smug remarks.

 

 

As far as I'm concerned, you don't give two ****s about any serious discussion, you're just interested in being a passive aggressive little pest who seeks to be proven right.

[Namutree]

 

TN, Longknife, KP and others considering your post history in this discussion I was really expecting you to at least try to respond to my 3 questions?

 

 

 

Seriously dude, shove it up your ass.

 

I'm sick of your passive aggressive bull****. It's the same every time: non-answers and every attempt made to dodge questions. And now this?

 

I've brought that up to you I dunno HOW many times, and every single time it's "oh I seem to have missed that, can you ask it again?" If you had any interest in a serious debate, you'd make an effort to look yourself. You don't. There's a reason I went quiet when you asked to see those questions again: to see if you'd look them up yourself, (at the time the thread was what, 7 pages?) and you never did. And then you sit here and make these smug remarks.

 

 

As far as I'm concerned, you don't give two ****s about any serious discussion, you're just interested in being a passive aggressive little pest who seeks to be proven right.

 

Seems a little harsh.

[Malcador]

I guess Internet Hobo is the career path of the future.

[Malcador]

I have to say I'm very surprised and disappointed by the lack of response to my 3 questions

 

For last 6 months we have had certain active members on this thread spend hours giving us updates and making long posts about corruption in the gaming industry and posting twitter comments. But when asked to give valid feedback about the core state of GG there has  been no feedback? The only person who did respond, Namutree, isn't even that active on this thread

 

TN, Longknife, KP and others considering your post history in this discussion I was really expecting you to at least try to respond to my 3 questions?

You should just get balls and just insult the people you want to. Works better than this roundabout way you are trying to backhand people.

[BruceVC]

https://twitter.com/infinitechan/status/552963452436623360

 

Welp, looks like 8chan is under a DDoS attack.

 

I have to say I'm very surprised and disappointed by the lack of response to my 3 questions

When several people have stated that they don't want to respond to you in this thread because they don't think you're posting in good faith, are you really surprised when you're ignored?

 

 

Actually I'm going to respond to each of the comments to my post individually 

 

I asked a simple question, well 3 simple questions. They weren't complicated, all I was asking was for your input. So yes I fail to see how my post was done in bad faith, especially considering the fact other people have responded?

 

You and I may not always agree on issues but I do try to respond to a direct questions you ask me?

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

 

":Glad to see GamerGate has completely abandoned all pretence of being about ethics in journalism and revealed itself to be little more than reactionary whining about "feminists," "SJWs," and "progressives." But hey, thanks to them, relative nobodies like Sarkeesian, Quinn, and Wu are now getting far more exposure than they would have otherwise. Good job, GG."

 

That's because feminists are evil and hate women and men. They slutshame women. they try to get women fired soemtimes even succeeding. They try to murder women. They talk about raping women like its their duty.

\

And, we haven't even discussed their opinion of racial minorities. *shudder*

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

 

Spoken by that shining example of humanity, Pat Roberston. Reactionary hysteria is always hilarious, whatever form it takes. I'm personally waiting for the moment when someone claims that water fluoridation is some insidious SJW plot to sterilise straight white males.

 

"I can no longer sit back and allow SJW infiltration, SJW indoctrination, SJW subversion and the international SJW conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!"

 

 

So GG has been established for more or less 6 months, it seems like  a good time to do a summary of where the movement is, what it has accomplished and what the future holds for GG

 

i know many of you guys do spend time following this movement and updating us on developments so lets analyze the state of GG and of course this is subjective..no one is going to hold you to it 

 

• What is current state of GG?
• What changes is GG directly or indirectly responsible for 
• What are the future objectives of GG?

 

 

I have to say I'm very surprised and disappointed by the lack of response to my 3 questions

 

For last 6 months we have had certain active members on this thread spend hours giving us updates and making long posts about corruption in the gaming industry and posting twitter comments. But when asked to give valid feedback about the core state of GG there has  been no feedback? The only person who did respond, Namutree, isn't even that active on this thread

 

TN, Longknife, KP and others considering your post history in this discussion I was really expecting you to at least try to respond to my 3 questions?

 

 

I haven't even been in this thread since before you posted those questions, I think. I've been cutting down my time in this thread simply because it often riles me up into making extremely long posts that take up time that I could be spending working on interesting things.

 

- The current state of GG, size wise, is mostly the same as it was, it was looking like it was shrinking rapidly but after the holidays were over it ballooned right back up.

 

- Personality wise, I can see a rift forming between those who care for specific personalities (such as those digging up dirt on srhbutts and attacking intel over being "partnered" with femfreq for their women in tech initiative) and a hard core ethics group, characterized by people such as Oliver Campbell, Brad Wardell and Jenn of Hardwire, who seem to be slowly forming themselves into a genuine ethics watchdog that will endure far after the hashtag goes out of use. However, I've seen a lot of arguments happen between different GGers in the last few days, more than usual, so GamerGate, if it was ever even somewhat united, might fracture over this difference. But I could be wrong.

 

- As for changes, this question was answered to my satisfaction. Influencing some FCC regulations, getting websites to adopt ethics policies, funding several charities and a lot of women in games industry projects (most from TFYC organisation). Apparently GG does this out of spite or something, but at least that seems to be getting results while everyone else is just running around complaining about gamer culture when they could be doing their own charity drives and women's projects.

 

- The future objectives of GG are the same as before. Ethics in game (and at this point it's really started to add media) journalism - either clean up your act or GG will try to take you down. The ones doing this intelligently seem to be that core forming into a media watchdog. Gawker is unlikely to be forgiven at this point because the whole controversy dragged up all the other **** they've done (such as hosting celebrity sex videos and spreading copyrighted material) and Gawker is already close to going down, so that seems to be an objective, and Vox media is getting a fair share of attention now because they are perceived to be responsible for a lot of biased coverage as well as the brunt of Reddit censorship. I haven't followed that particular outrage so I don't know if that's correct. I've had other things on my mind.

 

Satisfied?

 

 

Thank you for post, I'll go through your comments and respond later as I need to respond to others views now

[BruceVC]

 

TN, Longknife, KP and others considering your post history in this discussion I was really expecting you to at least try to respond to my 3 questions?

 

 

 

Seriously dude, shove it up your ass.

 

I'm sick of your passive aggressive bull****. It's the same every time: non-answers and every attempt made to dodge questions. And now this?

 

I've brought that up to you I dunno HOW many times, and every single time it's "oh I seem to have missed that, can you ask it again?" If you had any interest in a serious debate, you'd make an effort to look yourself. You don't. There's a reason I went quiet when you asked to see those questions again: to see if you'd look them up yourself, (at the time the thread was what, 7 pages?) and you never did. And then you sit here and make these smug remarks.

 

 

As far as I'm concerned, you don't give two ****s about any serious discussion, you're just interested in being a passive aggressive little pest who seeks to be proven right.

 

No you have it all wrong, I was honest. I wasn't sure what 2 questions you were talking about and I asked you to post them again

 

Yes I'm not as active as you on this thread but that doesn't mean I am not genuinely interested in your questions

 

My advice, stop being so defensive. Not everything is some surreptitious attack on GG or on your perspective. Sometimes people just don't understand what you mean when you expect a response, so make it easy for them by explaining