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So finally got my Dragon's Keep invite in my email inbox and signed the NDA, unfortunately I visited their Twitter and saw this:

 

 

 

New Keepers: wondering when you can access the whole site? We're off Monday (Canadian Thanksgiving) so it'll be Tuesday at the earliest.

 

...

 

...that is some bulls***...

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“Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.”
 
-Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>>
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"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

-Rod Serling

 

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So finally got my Dragon's Keep invite in my email inbox and signed the NDA, unfortunately I visited their Twitter and saw this:

 

New Keepers: wondering when you can access the whole site? We're off Monday (Canadian Thanksgiving) so it'll be Tuesday at the earliest.

...

 

...that is some bulls***...

I know, we should invade those maple loving sons of bitches and make them celebrate real Thanksgiving.

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So finally got my Dragon's Keep invite in my email inbox and signed the NDA, unfortunately I visited their Twitter and saw this:

 

 

 

New Keepers: wondering when you can access the whole site? We're off Monday (Canadian Thanksgiving) so it'll be Tuesday at the earliest.

 

...

 

...that is some bulls***...

I have an idea. You should work Christmas.

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Canadian Thanksgiving, in October ... why, what happened. Did the Native North Americans save them from the cold, and the French--no, that can only be half right. It has something do with ham being disguised as round, flat bacon, doesn't it. Is it hockey? Canadians give thanks every year for the start of hockey season, it must be.  

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Canadian thanksgiving celebrates the time the US invaded Canada while Britain was fighting most of Napoleon's conquered Europe alone, then got the White House and Washington torched for their cheek.

 

Still, at least you guys got the most hard to sing national anthem in the world out of it.

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Hey I can get into the Keep Beta now. 

 

Too bad I can't log in till tuesday

 

Honestly, once you check everything out, there's nothing more to do until November 18th.
I'm not sure you seem to grasp the concepts of beta testing or ndas. Unfortunately I can't explain them in detail in this case without violating mine.

You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that?

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Hey I can get into the Keep Beta now. 

 

Too bad I can't log in till tuesday

Honestly, once you check everything out, there's nothing more to do until November 18th.
I'm not sure you seem to grasp the concepts of beta testing or ndas. Unfortunately I can't explain them in detail in this case without violating mine.

 

I didn't give away any information, and most people just want in to "be in".

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"I'm not sure you seem to grasp the concepts of beta testing or ndas. Unfortunately I can't explain them in detail in this case without violating mine."

 

L0L NDAs L0L

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Hey I can get into the Keep Beta now. 

 

Too bad I can't log in till tuesday

Honestly, once you check everything out, there's nothing more to do until November 18th.
I'm not sure you seem to grasp the concepts of beta testing or ndas. Unfortunately I can't explain them in detail in this case without violating mine.

 

I didn't give away any information, and most people just want in to "be in".

 

Well, they're breaking their beta test agreement then, aren't they? ;)

 

Besides, what you're saying isn't even true.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYAECehIuKY?fs=1&

Here's a recent short vid about crafting, making potions, and such. I must say that the weapon and item presentation screens have taken a whole chapter from the book of Skyrim. It certainly looks nice enough, though.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYAECehIuKY?fs=1&

Here's a recent short vid about crafting, making potions, and such. I must say that the weapon and item presentation screens have taken a whole chapter from the book of Skyrim. It certainly looks nice enough, though.

 

That's some big ass horse at the beginning :p.

 

 

It'd have to be in order to accommodate a Qunari PC  :biggrin: 

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“Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.”
 
-Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>>
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"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

-Rod Serling

 

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Ahh, a nice 1h vid, and they're playing with m/kb!

 

The music at the start, where those two marching files are seen, actually gives me BG-vibes!!

Overall, it seems like that they are aiming for appropriate class/race/whatever reactivity throughout the game, instead of just some deep origin-prologues and then a few convo hiccups now and then. I can already tell that the convos are far, far better than Skyrim's woody verbal exchanges.

 

That quest hub/war table setup seems to be really nice, and they say that you'll never open up all of the 300+ quest points on that map in one playthrough. Also, you have Inquisition Perks and Powers that make the war-table overlay another level of xp - a bit like T:ToN Discovery Points, but then again, not at all. The replayability value of this game just soared, I reckon. :)

 

EDIT: There are loads of different mounts, and one of them shown is like a weird moose, and when the dev mounted it, he called it Horny! :lol:  :lol:

 

EDIT 2: The UIs are overall great, especially for the PC - and I love that bara - I don't care if it's restricted to eight slots. I agree with the devs. I think it's all for the best.

Also, thanks to hints in this vid, I'm getting more and more a feel for what kind of character I want to build.

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Interesting facts:

DA:O - dev time over 6 years (nearly 7) - lots of that - 2 years - went into developing the new IP, the new systems, dev team at crunch time - 180 devs

DA2 - Most of it was dev in 8 months (cf. IWD2!), dev team at crunch time - not even 100

DA:I - dev time around 4 years, dev team at crunch time - it's still going on, so I have no reliable number, but it must be huge.

 

This certainly gives me hope that this game may be at least as good as DA:O. :)

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I remember Laidlaw claiming that parts of DA2 were in development even before Origins' was complete. If there was truth to that claim then there probably was at least some pre-production stuff for Inquisition done before DA2 went gold.

 

That said, given the, to put it lightly, mixed reaction to DA2 it's certainly within the realm of possibility that they scrapped a significant portion of that work when they realised the "slam dunk" * approach to cRPG design wasn't going to quite cut it for the fans.

 

*Yeah, it's an article from the Codex. But hey, you gotta admit that amongst all the bigotry and narcissism they occasionally put out something absolutely brilliant.

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“Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.”
 
-Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>>
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"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

-Rod Serling

 

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I remember Laidlaw claiming that parts of DA2 were in development even before Origins' was complete. If there was truth to that claim then there probably was at least some pre-production stuff for Inquisition done before DA2 went gold.

I'd gather there would have to be. They've been trying to make it their new flagship title since forever. It's their Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane.

 

Or to be more obtuse... Spider-Girl.

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I remember Laidlaw claiming that parts of DA2 were in development even before Origins' was complete. If there was truth to that claim then there probably was at least some pre-production stuff for Inquisition done before DA2 went gold.

 

That said, given the, to put it lightly, mixed reaction to DA2 it's certainly within the realm of possibility that they scrapped a significant portion of that work when they realised the "slam dunk" * approach to cRPG design wasn't going to quite cut it for the fans.

 

*Yeah, it's an article from the Codex. But hey, you gotta admit that amongst all the bigotry and narcissism they occasionally put out something absolutely brilliant.

 

I recommend going back to Witch Hunt and the other later DLCs for DAO. They have numerous references... to DAI, not DA2. I CBA to put the sources together, but basically DA2 was supposed to be a smaller game, more like a standalone expansion, to prevent the Mass Effect and Dragon Age teams from having identical dev cycles. Then somebody* had the idea of labeling it "2" and driving the dev team to make it a full-price game... resulting in what I view as the sole critical failure of the game, the artificial stretch from reusing the same areas over and over. So, in a lot of ways, this is the DAO sequel that was originally supposed to be, with DA2 a slight excursion in the middle.

 

*Most will say that this was evil overlord EA, I will assume it was the docs.

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"I'm not sure you seem to grasp the concepts of beta testing or ndas. Unfortunately I can't explain them in detail in this case without violating mine."

 

L0L NDAs L0L

People take them seriously, even in PR betas :p

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Completely irrelevant, I know... but I keep reading the thread title as Dragon Age: Acquisition for some reason =]

 

Maybe there is going to be a lot of DLC for it.

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