Keyrock Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Meh, not seeing the whole excitement. I am interested in SteamOS in at least to see how much they let you do with it. Well, I mean, it's Linux, so you'll be able to do with it what you can do with any other Linux distribution, which is to say, whatever you want. Steam itself is proprietary, so not much you can do with that, outside of what Valve allows you to (it would be cool if they open sourced parts of Steam, but I'm not holding my breath), but outside of Steam, especially the underlying kernel, libraries, and stack of open source apps, you can do with as you desire. If you want to turn it into a print server running on a coffee machine, you can turn it into a print server running on a coffee machine. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Yeah, I know that and am vaguely aware of what Linux is. But was curious how tied in Steam itself will be to the OS. Heh, trying to use Linux without a proper keyboard would be fun. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManifestedISO Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 With all the Google-bashing and Apple-mocking that Microsoft puts in their marketing of Windows products, Valve should emphasize more to the point of SteamOS: Every game we offer! No Windows! All Stop. On Screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 The Bethesda game deals are up again at http://getloadedgo.com/. There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 It's "old" history now (a few days ago), but I grabbed Dead Island Riptide at 75% off. I quite liked the original, even if not actually completing it. Makes for a nice diversion every now and then booting it up and continuing the game, because I don't feel some compelling need to play it for hours on end. Just make a bit of progress. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Urquhart, Avellone, and other indie developers talk SteamOS Edited September 30, 2013 by Keyrock RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManifestedISO Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I thought this was a fascinating description of the new controller. I didn't know what "haptic feedback" meant until now, which is apparently what this is: "This sounds weird, but it's almost like rolling two weighted trackballs that are too large to actually fit into the controller," Lambe said as he tried to explain what it's like to have one's thumbs on those two trackpads. "For camera controls, slide one thumb to the right, and you'll feel this ticking, like you're turning a physical control. Flick your thumb quickly, and this imaginary physical thing reacts like something with weight to it—the 'trackball' continues to roll for a bit, eventually coming to a rest. And since it's all controlled through the software, the same trackpad then becomes more like a mouse or a laptop trackpad when you're navigating through menus. Dynamic!" All Stop. On Screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 http://store.steampowered.com/app/242980/ Suck it down. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labadal Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 http://store.steampowered.com/app/242980/ Suck it down. Need to play it some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Demonicon is finally getting released as well, it seems. Might take a leap of faith with that one. It wasn't developed by Cyanide/Spiders, but it has official Dark Eye license. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blodhemn Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I don't need or want a controller. If someone eventually comes up with a better input device than the mouse (and keyboard), then I'll relearn everything. But not until then. For FPS, mouse and keyboard is the only way to go. I can't stand playing them with controllers and I don't see how the steam controller is going to change that. It looks like it might be pretty cool otherwise, for other game genres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 http://store.steampowered.com/app/242980/ Suck it down. I was reading some comments in its community hub and it's apparently supposed to be pretty bad. I thought it looked like it could actually be a bit of fun from the screenshots, but... Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I don't need or want a controller. If someone eventually comes up with a better input device than the mouse (and keyboard), then I'll relearn everything. But not until then. For FPS, mouse and keyboard is the only way to go. I can't stand playing them with controllers and I don't see how the steam controller is going to change that. It looks like it might be pretty cool otherwise, for other game genres. I have come to realize that a PC Controller is extremely useful, in fact I would argue mandatory, for certain games that have been ported to PC. Like Sleeping Dogs and Darksiders 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I don't need or want a controller. If someone eventually comes up with a better input device than the mouse (and keyboard), then I'll relearn everything. But not until then. For FPS, mouse and keyboard is the only way to go. I can't stand playing them with controllers and I don't see how the steam controller is going to change that. It looks like it might be pretty cool otherwise, for other game genres. I have come to realize that a PC Controller is extremely useful, in fact I would argue mandatory, for certain games that have been ported to PC. Like Sleeping Dogs and Darksiders Yes, though the need for controller for certain games is direct result of lazy port. Either because the devs didn't bother to make the K&M controls good or because the moneymen didn't allow them to do it. I personally vote no with my wallet for games like that, no matter how good the game otherwise is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I don't need or want a controller. If someone eventually comes up with a better input device than the mouse (and keyboard), then I'll relearn everything. But not until then. For FPS, mouse and keyboard is the only way to go. I can't stand playing them with controllers and I don't see how the steam controller is going to change that. It looks like it might be pretty cool otherwise, for other game genres. I have come to realize that a PC Controller is extremely useful, in fact I would argue mandatory, for certain games that have been ported to PC. Like Sleeping Dogs and Darksiders Yes, though the need for controller for certain games is direct result of lazy port. Either because the devs didn't bother to make the K&M controls good or because the moneymen didn't allow them to do it. I personally vote no with my wallet for games like that, no matter how good the game otherwise is. Yeah I hear you and agree. The main reason for me in using a Controller in Sleeping Dogs was because you couldn't remap the KB controls. This was laziness from the Developers. But the Controller did make the game so easy to play and I am at a point now where I won't play a good game just because a Controller is necessary, I see that as " cutting your nose off to spite your face". And Sleeping Dogs is a great and entertaining game But I do understand your point "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Sports games are a lot more comfortable with a controller as well. The Xbox PC controller is probably the best component I've ever bought for my PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Sports games, racing/driving games, platformers, there are plenty of games where a controller is a superior tool to m&kb. I love my 360 controller. I also love my flightstick. While m&kb is certainly superior for many games, it's not the holy of holies some make it out to be. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I generally find the controller better when the game is designed for twin stick. Overlord is the game that really sold me on that idea. Rogue Legacy, Hotline Miami, I'll even prefer it for Skyrim. But an FPS? That will be a hard sell. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I'm glad the kind of games I like aren't really enhanced by a gamepad. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I'm glad the kind of games I like aren't really enhanced by a gamepad.That seems a bizarre thing to be glad of. Like being happy your preferred soda comes in red can instead of a brown one. A game's a game. 1 "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Brown can suggest root beer. Root beer rocks! Brown can > red can. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 That seems a bizarre thing to be glad of. Like being happy your preferred soda comes in red can instead of a brown one. A game's a game. Not really keen on another peripheral to keep around, though I suppose I should get a larger desk. Also does mean I avoid the experience of using a non-optimal controller as is claimed. Should have checked first before stating that, maybe. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I avoided controllers for years because of the optimization problems, but the Xbox controller solved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 http://store.steampowered.com/app/242980/ Suck it down. I was reading some comments in its community hub and it's apparently supposed to be pretty bad. I thought it looked like it could actually be a bit of fun from the screenshots, but... Is $7, might as well try it if you have a suspicion it might be fun. And if it's total garbage well...you've experienced the bad so you'll appreciate the good that much more, or something. The sword levelling with you was something interesting at the time, or at least I think it was when I read a review on it many years ago. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I heard that Daikatana suffered more from bugs and glitches than anything else, that it was a decent game once they patched it up considerably. It was never my cup of tea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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