NOK222 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 5-4 vote on it. ****'s about to get real. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/26/supreme-court-doma-decision_n_3454811.html 1 Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Despite the moral fabric of America having been destroyed, my life doesn't seem that different. Edited June 26, 2013 by KaineParker 6 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 The gay-lobby celebrate by having a lavish, socialistic party where they quote Mao and Stalin. All while the rest of america burns from marriages revoked by the sudden gay. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Some of the responses I'm seeing make me wonder if the whole country has lost it's sanity. A noted congresswoman made a statement about the SCOTUS undermining Gods word and the bible teachings. Ok, I'll buy that but no church is going to be asked to perform or sanction any marriage it does not want to. This only applies to the definition of a marriage with respect to the government and property and children. Totally different animals. If I've said it once I've said it a million times, if you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay person. What the hell do you care what two consenting adults who you probably don't even know do with their lives? What a wonderful world this would be if we all would just leave each other alone to live our lives in the way that seems best to each of us. As to the specifics of the decision, from the summary I've seen it was a pretty cut and dry equal protection case. Even the dissent was not focused on the merits of DOMA so much as rather the review was properly handled or needed. I have not read it yet, I'll do that this afternoon. 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOK222 Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 But marriage was invented by God and sanctioned by God. And don't come at me with this "myth" of Sumerian people. Nice try liberals. Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Sure there is a religious aspect to marriage IF the couple is religious. Once the state got into the business of sanctioning marriage however the legal and religious aspects became two different things. When you get right down to it, marriage is a contract in the legal sense. How can the government allow one group of consenting parties to enter into contract while at the same time bar another group of consenting parties from doing the same? It turns out, they can't. However, if individual religious denominations refuse to sanction or same sex weddings allow them on their property everyone has to understand they are free to do that! I'm not talking directly to you NK. I know where you're coming from. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 5-4 vote on it. ****'s about to get real. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/26/supreme-court-doma-decision_n_3454811.html Damn you beat me to posting this progressive and long overdue development All I can say is " well done USA Supreme Court" Gay couples will now get the important benefits around tax and healthcare that straight couples get and cleared the way for gay couples to marry in California. This is great news and every American should be proud of this decision. The next move needs to be pass legislation so that gay marriage is legally allowed in every state. But lets take one step at a time "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Sure there is a religious aspect to marriage IF the couple is religious. Once the state got into the business of sanctioning marriage however the legal and religious aspects became two different things. When you get right down to it, marriage is a contract in the legal sense. How can the government allow one group of consenting parties to enter into contract while at the same time bar another group of consenting parties from doing the same? It turns out, they can't. However, if individual religious denominations refuse to sanction or same sex weddings allow them on their property everyone has to understand they are free to do that! I'm not talking directly to you NK. I know where you're coming from. I think NKKK is being sarcastic "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkathi Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I think with NKKK's posts you need a disclaimer for the times when he isn't Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Ok, I'll buy that but no church is going to be asked to perform or sanction any marriage it does not want to. I think you're wrong about this. They will force it on the churches by revoking their tax exemption status if they say no. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Ok, I'll buy that but no church is going to be asked to perform or sanction any marriage it does not want to. I think you're wrong about this. They will force it on the churches by revoking their tax exemption status if they say no. I can't say I agree. I doubt any legislation to that effect would survive a legal challenge, and the politicians wouldn't survive their next election. 1 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I would have a BIG problem with that. Gay couples cannot demand their freedom then insist on robbing others of theirs! "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) I think you're wrong about this. They will force it on the churches by revoking their tax exemption status if they say no. While you'd get athiests hard at that, that'd never fly, I'd imagine. Intimidating a religious organization that way is just as bad. Edited June 26, 2013 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Ok, I'll buy that but no church is going to be asked to perform or sanction any marriage it does not want to. I think you're wrong about this. They will force it on the churches by revoking their tax exemption status if they say no. Are you pleased with the Supreme Court decision Gfted? Its probably a stupid question as how can anyone not be pleased with the legal progression of equality in the greatest country of Western Democracy and ideology? I'm not even American and I'm ecstatic "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Isn't a chunk of the anti-gay bible aspect in Leviticus? Which also has the big chunk of "tattoo's are bad, mmkay?", "you should not cross-breed cattle" and the "you're going to hell if you wear clothes made out of more then one type of material" if I vaguely recall... It does seem to me that if the various churches are okay dropping the latter bunch and not stressing over them, why are they getting so hooked on that part? "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Are you pleased with the Supreme Court decision Gfted? Its probably a stupid question as how can anyone not be pleased with the legal progression of equality in the greatest country of Western Democracy and ideology? I'm not even American and I'm ecstatic No Im not, but that's because I don't feel anyone's sexuality should be forced on another group and Im pretty sure someone somewhere is already drafting up a lawsuit against . Regarding homosexuality? I don't care who sticks which sexual organ into which orifice, as long as everyone is consenting. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Baby steps, but you guys still lag behind badly Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Are you pleased with the Supreme Court decision Gfted? Its probably a stupid question as how can anyone not be pleased with the legal progression of equality in the greatest country of Western Democracy and ideology? I'm not even American and I'm ecstatic No Im not, but that's because I don't feel anyone's sexuality should be forced on another group and Im pretty sure someone somewhere is already drafting up a lawsuit against <insert church that wont marry you>. Regarding homosexuality? I don't care who sticks which sexual organ into which orifice, as long as everyone is consenting. Okay lets say hypothetically the Federal government doesn't pass any legislation to force any churches to marry gay people. Of course there will be certain churches that will perform the ceremony but that's optional. Would you be happy then? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Baby steps, but you guys still lag behind badly They'll catch up to you in Blessed Europe soon enough. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Are you pleased with the Supreme Court decision Gfted? Its probably a stupid question as how can anyone not be pleased with the legal progression of equality in the greatest country of Western Democracy and ideology? I'm not even American and I'm ecstatic No Im not, but that's because I don't feel anyone's sexuality should be forced on another group and Im pretty sure someone somewhere is already drafting up a lawsuit against . Regarding homosexuality? I don't care who sticks which sexual organ into which orifice, as long as everyone is consenting. Okay lets say hypothetically the Federal government doesn't pass any legislation to force any churches to marry gay people. Of course there will be certain churches that will perform the ceremony but that's optional. Would you be happy then? I imagine Gfted may be remembering the New Jersey church that was sued because space and a pavilion they owned was refused to be used for a same sex marriage. They were, essentially, told they couldn't keep the tax exempt status on the land and pavilion if they refused to have it open to anyone. The issue, in this case, was that the space and pavilion was tax exempt as a "Green Space" and not as part of a religious organization. Its my understanding that while they did lose the tax exempt status for the Green Space Tax Exemption, they applied for - and received - a tax exemption for religious organizations and was able to continue to operate the pavilion and grounds as they saw fit. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Okay lets say hypothetically the Federal government doesn't pass any legislation to force any churches to marry gay people. Of course there will be certain churches that will perform the ceremony but that's optional. Would you be happy then? That would make me happy. I don't have any problem with homosexuals getting married (those fools!) and partaking in the benefits of such a union. Maybe they should outlaw heterosexual marriages. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Baby steps, but you guys still lag behind badly They'll catch up to you in Blessed Europe soon enough. Actually I was thinking more like Thailand. With all the ladyboys they have become a testing ground for acceptance of sexuality and gender in society as a whole and they appear to have taken the lead in some areas despite having a very conservative establishment. Adoptions for gay couples is still a recurring debate here. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Even without all the wrinkly people there, SCOTUS still makes me think of SCROTUM every single time. 1 You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Won't somebody please think about the children? The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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