My total experience with the 3D GTAs: played San Andreas until the very early segment where you have to escape on a bicycle. Felt like I was playing a less entertaining version of QWOP. Have never been back.

But I would say we are all in agreement that GTA is the superior game ????? 

Total Overdose > Saints Row > GTA

 

Saboteur beats all of them.

Indeed. League of its own.

No, Oni is the best.

 

So we have reached the usual Obsidian consensus on the issue.

   Yeah and it makes me laugh

 

But I would say we are all in agreement that GTA is the superior game ????? 

 

I think we're all in agreement to disagree with each other.

 

Besides, the best open world, sandbox game ever made is CLEARLY Leisure Suit Larry: Box Office Bust.

 

/hides

yes, SR games are only worth it for the co-op.

Never played SR co-op and probably never will. Still fun to me.

Co-op SR3 was more enjoyable for me, just due to bad driving.

 

 

So we have reached the usual Obsidian consensus on the issue.

   Yeah and it makes me laugh

 

But I would say we are all in agreement that GTA is the superior game ?????

 

Than SR? Hell to the no.

 

I share this opinion

 

Saint's Row 3 had a nice variety of interesting vehicles, including VTOL jets that fired lasers. And the missions provided variety too.

 

Every GTA I've played was just lots of the same from beginning to end.

 

 

 

So we have reached the usual Obsidian consensus on the issue.

   Yeah and it makes me laugh

 

But I would say we are all in agreement that GTA is the superior game ?????

 

Than SR? Hell to the no.

 

I share this opinion

 

Saint's Row 3 had a nice variety of interesting vehicles, including VTOL jets that fired lasers. And the missions provided variety too.

 

Every GTA I've played was just lots of the same from beginning to end.

 

 

I felt vice city had enough variety in its missions, but, yeah...

To me it all just comes down to "is it fun?".  SR2 and SR3 were just fun.  The missions were fun, the activities were fun, especially Insurance Fraud.  Everything was put in place for me to have fun.  GTA III was fun, partly because it was groundbreaking, and partly because it got out of your way and let me have fun.  Vice City and San Andreas each added different fun things to do.  There were parts that were tedious and unnecessary, especially in San Andreas, but there was still plenty of fun activities and the missions were for the most part fun and interesting.  Not to mention that San Fierro was a stunt driver's paradise, man the crazy jumps and hellrides I pulled in that city.  Somehow GTA IV just lost the fun aspect for me.  The missions were more tedious than anything else, the city was well crafted but drab and boring, there were some well made mini games and some fun to be had, but the game seemed like it was actively trying to keep me from having fun.  It felt more like a chore than a game.  By the time I got to the last few missions I was dreading the missions and just saying to myself "let's just get this crap over with so I can get to the end".

Edited July 11, 201312 yr by Keyrock

hmm, I never found SR3 fun outside the fact that I was playing it in co-op. doctor, what's wrong with me? 

Obsidian's canceled "Sci-Fi Sykrim" Backspace

Obsidian's canceled "Sci-Fi Sykrim" Backspace

Okay, this is something that needs to come off the shelf and be put on the back burner.  Then once Stick of Truth and/or Project Eternity are completed it should immediately go on the front burner.  Medium heat, season, stir frequently.  Seriously, Backspace sounds ****ing fantastic.

Looks good to me too; hope they can come back to it at some point.

Interesting idea, at least.

Interesting idea, at least.

 

Yeah. BioWare Junior is really doing something totally interesting by making a Mass Effect clone.

The idea of a Borderlands-esque game by Obsidian is very appealing. Borderlands was fun but it needed fewer but more fleshed out quests and that's how I would imagine something like this. The only thing I'm not huge on is the idea of left trigger = left hand, right trigger = right hand, as that mechanic hasn't worked well in any game I've played.

What we need is someone to crack open a bunch of Heavy Metal magazines from the 70ties and 80ties and make an RPG on more or less anything they see there. Moebius landscapes, Druillet buildings, Bilal dystopia... anything except US 90's tv show inspired crap.

 

I pine for a real euro RPG. Even european games like Drakensang are built according to generic US genre parameters and aesthetics.

Obsidian's canceled "Sci-Fi Sykrim" Backspace

In before 100 million USD Kickstarter.

 

Interesting idea, at least.

 

Yeah. BioWare Junior is really doing something totally interesting by making a Mass Effect clone.

 

Even if it was nothing more than a Mass Effect clone, I'd be on board.  I liked the Mass Effect trilogy quite bit, all the way up until about the last 10-15% of ME3, where it promptly fell off a ****ing cliff.  Heck, a lot of people refer to Fallout: New Vegas as nothing more than a Fallout 3 reskin.  I personally think it's more than that.  Regardless, F:NV is one of my favorite games, reskin or not.

Edited July 11, 201312 yr by Keyrock

InXile partners with publisher for Wasteland 2

 

After all the **** Fargo talked about publishers.

InXile partners with publisher for Wasteland 2

 

After all the **** Fargo talked about publishers.

It sounds more like a distribution deal. The publisher isn't involved in the game, they basically gave them the rights to do physical copies in exchange for distributig their physical goods. Realistically I don't think they could have done boxed copies any other way.

 

It sounds more like a distribution deal. The publisher isn't involved in the game, they basically gave them the rights to do physical copies in exchange for distributig their physical goods. Realistically I don't think they could have done boxed copies any other way.

 

No doubt, and it's the right move for them, but it doesn't mean we can't give them **** about it since half of their pitch could have been summarized as "publishers are reason we can't have nice things."

If they're a distributor only, do they defacto count as a publisher?

 

Or am I splitting hairs?