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"The Japanese and American ways of thinking about crime, privacy, and police powers are so different -- and Japan is such a generally peaceful country -- that it's functionally impossible to fully isolate and compare the two gun control regiments"

 

Hmmm. 

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I think you mean tentacles.

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Or mecha-related violence.

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I think it's more the question of "there is no real sense of privacy in Japan in the way americans think of it"

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I think it's more the question of "there is no real sense of privacy in Japan in the way americans think of it"

There's also the fact that the Yakuza itself frowns upon gun trafficking. When the major crime organizations of a relatively xenophobic island nation are completely in sync with the law, there is not going to be an overlarge black market in the product in question.

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Annual US market for guns: $2.8 billion

 

2012 US market for games: $14.1 billion

 

Your move, Congress. :)

 

 

 

 

Actually I'm all in favor of responsible video game ownership, just as I much prefer responsible gun ownership. I'm just suggesting that Congress shouldn't necessary expect to safely throw the video games industry under the bus in order to sate the virulent propaganda of the NRA.

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Annual US market for guns: $2.8 billion

 

2012 US market for games: $14.1 billion

 

Your move, Congress. :)

 

 

 

 

Actually I'm all in favor of responsible video game ownership, just as I much prefer responsible gun ownership. I'm just suggesting that Congress shouldn't necessary expect to safely throw the video games industry under the bus in order to sate the virulent propaganda of the NRA.

Man, I think it may be cheaper to buy a gun rob game stores :p

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

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Comparing any small nation to one large nation that is basically 50 smaller ones is fairly silly as well.

Why is that? (The argument about size, not the one about the US being composed of several smaller states?)

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Comparing any small nation to one large nation that is basically 50 smaller ones is fairly silly as well.

Why is that? (The argument about size, not the one about the US being composed of several smaller states?)

Smaller nations/communities are by and large more tightly knit. And in general easier to police. In America you've got groups in all different areas, from all different populations and you have to take a week to get from one end to the other. In Japan you can get from Satsuma to the northern provinces in a day or less.

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Comparing any small nation to one large nation that is basically 50 smaller ones is fairly silly as well.

Why is that? (The argument about size, not the one about the US being composed of several smaller states?)

 

Japanese culture in general is a lot more homogeneous.

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Did I ever mention that owning fully automatic assault rifles with 30 round magazines is actually legal in Sweden..? My father owned one up until a couple of years ago, but traded it for a hunting rifle (which is more practical when you, you know, actually hunt).

 

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This one.

 

The irony is that Sweden's gun laws are actually more lax than in the US. The big difference is control. Imagine that.

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Maybe laws about what aspects of weaponry are lax but there's controls on who can own one ? Not sure of the distinction he's referring to. Also that gun's pretty usable for a hunting rifle, no ? I'm guessing it's firing a 7.62 round.

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Did I ever mention that owning fully automatic assault rifles with 30 round magazines is actually legal in Sweden..? My father owned one up until a couple of years ago, but traded it for a hunting rifle (which is more practical when you, you know, actually hunt).

 

Ak4b.jpg

 

This one.

 

The irony is that Sweden's gun laws are actually more lax than in the US. The big difference is control. Imagine that.

 

Maybe laws about what aspects of weaponry are lax but there's controls on who can own one ? Not sure of the distinction he's referring to. Also that gun's pretty usable for a hunting rifle, no ? I'm guessing it's firing a 7.62 round.

 Yeah that would be my interpretation, there are variety of guns in Sweden but they are hard to get legally

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Did I ever mention that owning fully automatic assault rifles with 30 round magazines is actually legal in Sweden..? My father owned one up until a couple of years ago, but traded it for a hunting rifle (which is more practical when you, you know, actually hunt).

 

Ak4b.jpg

 

This one.

 

The irony is that Sweden's gun laws are actually more lax than in the US. The big difference is control. Imagine that.

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Lookout, Obama's gunna take ur guns and make ya gay marry an illegal immigrant in a muslim ceremony.

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Lookout, Obama's gunna take ur guns and make ya gay marry an illegal immigrant in a muslim ceremony.

 

Yea! Because every person who supports this or that only votes a party line on all issues because that's what they're told to do, as well as being spoon fed all of the arguments and counter arguments on the issue. If you think people should have guns then that means absolutely that you must be racist, sexist, a warmonger and hate gay people.

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