UncleBourbon Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I might double up on some classes, if there is enough variation to make essentially different kits. If there is an opportunist or similair rogue I might take them even if I'm using a skill rogue. Likewise, I'll probably opt for one-handed weapons as a barbarian or fighter (one/two-hand switching if they add hand-and-a-halfers) but would want an all-time two-hander in addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensuki Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Oh don't forget, there will be Followers as well (which makes up for the lack of a secondary cast). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I guess depth is what Obsidian are going for. The fewer companions, the more reactive and complex they can be. Now they have both Avellone and Zeits on this project, I absolutely have faith these companions will be amazing. That said, I certainly feel that the initial baseline of 5 companion would have been too few, since you would always have all of them in your party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojobobo Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I don't want everyone on my party to have a unique story, it will just make the interesting stories they have to tell feel more contrived. Plus the fact if I'm roleplaying a character, I'm sure they'll clash with some of the goals of the different companions. I think I'll probably play with 4 characters (my PC, 2 companions, 1 merc) each time I play through as it's nice to have a challenge, and I find that slightly fewer characters make strategic situations more manageable anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror K Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Eight is fine, though I'd like some temp companions now and then too. For example, if there is a particular quest that has several parts to it that revolves around a particular NPC, then players may have the option of having said NPC join them as a companion for that quest's arc, but as soon as it's done they will leave due to circumstances and won't be as deep and involved as proper companions. Now, while the player could possibly abuse this by, for example, starting their quest in early Act 2, but not finishing it until that act is almost over, they could conceivably have a companion that stays with them on other quests for a while, but this would come at the expense of them running around with somebody not terribly fleshed out over somebody who would react more. Of course, perhaps if a player were to try this, said NPC would get impatient after a while and just leave the player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBourbon Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'd like as an added bonus some story circumstances appealing to an evil player, or perhaps just neutral, to abandon or not care about a companion. What I'm thinking of is something like a trapped room that needs people on either side of the door to open it, but you have access to the treasure and a way out - the chance to just walk away, leaving the NPC to rot in a room. Or maybe some cases of possession or sacrifice, using the companion or leaving them be. I'm thinking enslavement in Fallout 3/New Vegas and human sacrifices in fallout/TES. I'd see the potential for cannibalism as a plus, too, but far less neat. Though I understand these things to be very complicated and in depth, so maybe only one such circumstance for maybe two or three companions, or maybe just the human fighter they've revealed is integral to the main story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrakvampire Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) And another thing to consider. BG2 had different companions with different morale views (alignment). So 17 in total. Now we are gonna have only 8 characters... Are they so morally flexible that they are ok with going with true-goody-goody PC or kill-them-all-and-grab-the-money PC? If you call it 'deep characters' then I'm hamster-ballet-dancer. Edited October 19, 2012 by Mrakvampire No to experimentation! No to fixing that is not broken! No to changes for the sake of change! Do not forget basis of Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale and Planescape Torment. Just put all your effort to story, fine-tuning and quality control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabaliero Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) I just decided that i want 2 moar companions. And not just pet-like companions. But serious business companions. And 1 of them has to be a romanceable lich girl. And she has to be a secret one! Hard to obtain! PS: man i wish i had spare $10k Edited October 19, 2012 by kabaliero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlorn Hope Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Eight is enough but one NPC per class would be perfect. However, I trust Obsidian knows what's best for this project. Maybe they won't announce every NPC before the release and everybody will be surprised once we get the game. One can hope "Maybe your grandiose vocabulary is a pathetic compensation for an insufficiency in the nether regions of your anatomy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loranc Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I just decided that i want 2 moar companions. And not just pet-like companions. But serious business companions. And 1 of them has to be a romanceable lich girl. And she has to be a secret one! Hard to obtain! PS: man i wish i had spare $10k Okay sarcasm aside, I would actually like to see a 'hidden' companion or two. Companions that are hard to obtain would actually be kind of fun. Instead of the normal 'Hey i'm gonna follow you around cause you talked to me once.' Kind of deal. I may be thinking too much into this, but it just sounded like a cool idea. 1 Obsidian @Obsidian Current PayPal status: $140,000. 2,200 backers "Hmm so last Paypal information was 140,000 putting us at 4,126,929. We did well over and beyond 4 million, and still have an old backer number from Paypal. 76,186 backers. It's very possible that we have over 75,000 backers if I had new Paypal information. Which means we may have 15 Mega dungeon levels, and we already are going to have an amazing game + cats (I swear I will go stir crazy if Adam doesn't own up to the cats thing )." Switching to Paypal means that more of your money will go towards Project Eternity. (The more you know.) Paypal charges .30 cents per transaction and 2.2% for anything over 100,000 per month for U.S currency. Other currency is different, ranging from anywhere between 2.2-4.9%. Kick Starter is a fixed 5% charge at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBourbon Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Hidden or such companions would indeed be cool. The New Game+ discussion elsewhere on the forums would benefit from the idea of a companion or two that will only join you on your second time through, if such a thing exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorizer Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I hope there is some secret ones....to be honest I'm a bit disappointed that we already know who 5 of them are....would prefer to find out in game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leif. Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 One Plater companion per class, so 11. I don't think the IWD method of character generation should be our only route to have a in-depth conversation with someone of a particular class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabaliero Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Yeah... dem, spoiler artworks... a no-no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecimen Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'd like to see 10 as the op said. The remaining 2 can be unlockable after the 1st playthrough or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) I'm not sure I like the idea of "unlocking" companions on a new game+ run. It's too gamey to me and seems like an artificial way to ration out content. I think it's better that everyone has the potential to access all companions on their first playthrough, but perhaps one or two are ruled out or inaccesible due to the player's actions in some way. This can create an interesting dynamic as it may be completely different sets of companions that any given player may see on their particular playthrough because of the way they have influenced the story. Edited October 19, 2012 by Justinian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabaliero Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'm not sure I like the idea of "unlocking" companions on a new game+ run. It's too gamey to me and seems like an artificial way to ration out content. I think it's better that everyone has the potential to access all companions on their first playthrough, but perhaps one or two are ruled out or inaccesible due to the player's actions in some way. This. Leave 'unlocks' to the modern JRPG hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkaven Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) Eight is pretty tight if the companions bicker and quit your party like in Baldurs Gate. I'll more than likely make the majority of my party members but there will also be room in my party for a space hamster and minsc. Edited October 19, 2012 by Malkaven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBourbon Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'm a fan of jRPGs myself, but I can see how it would be frustrating. Maybe a character or two will be recruitable despite normal circumstances for some reason or another on the second play through - just to spice things up. I could only really see this being logically implemented for prognostic or "seer" type characters, with some sort of vision convincing them that maybe they should travel with you, despite maybe having a reputation of being too good/evil for their liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saulot Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Eight companions does not bother me, but I would prefer nine or ten, even eleven if possible. I'm not terribly interested in seeing more than that, though. I want every companion to fleshed out and well developed, of course, and I want most of them to have something clear to contribute to the story, though if there were ten or eleven characters, I would not mind one or two being somewhat "out of the way" so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecimen Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I hope there is some secret ones....to be honest I'm a bit disappointed that we already know who 5 of them are....would prefer to find out in game Do we know they are companions? I... I hate elven wizards and female dwarves.... Also the monk was ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecimen Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'm not sure I like the idea of "unlocking" companions on a new game+ run. It's too gamey to me and seems like an artificial way to ration out content. I think it's better that everyone has the potential to access all companions on their first playthrough, but perhaps one or two are ruled out or inaccesible due to the player's actions in some way. This. Leave 'unlocks' to the modern JRPG hell. I've never played japanese RPGs and dont know what the heck you're talking about but unlocks would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_templar Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 8 is for me even too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorizer Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I hope there is some secret ones....to be honest I'm a bit disappointed that we already know who 5 of them are....would prefer to find out in game Do we know they are companions? I... I hate elven wizards and female dwarves.... Also the monk was ugly. I thought I'd read it somewhere, might just have been someone guessing though....actually I hope they're not, then I dont know who they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christliar Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) I was thinking of limiting the party to 5 people (you + 4 others) instead of 6. With 6 characters the gameplay starts to get kinda cluster****y; I know "classic" cRPGs had a 6 man group, but I don't think that's optimal. Having 5 people also limits the spells and abilities you can have at a given time, increasing the difficulty a bit. With that said, 8 companions will be plenty and you'll have an opportunity to play the game 2 times with vastly different parties. Knowing Obsidian they'll probably make some of the companions leave when they are disconnected with you morally/philosophically, so that further limits the party when you have 6 people. Edited October 19, 2012 by Christliar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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