Gorgon Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 David Cameron's net-censorship proposal earns kudos from Chinese state media A worrying reaction, it sounds like they're using the fuss to achieve some of their ulterior goals. I'm not seeing any quotes from Chinese officials. The joke would be funnier if it were true. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
WDeranged Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 David Cameron's net-censorship proposal earns kudos from Chinese state media A worrying reaction, it sounds like they're using the fuss to achieve some of their ulterior goals. I'm not seeing any quotes from Chinese officials. The joke would be funnier if it were true. Global Times is an English language newspaper that was set up by the Chinese government.
Gorgon Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 It's not attributed anywhere. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
WDeranged Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 It's not attributed anywhere. I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at, the headline clearly says "state media" which is exactly what the Global Times is, the lack of Hu Jintao giving Cameron a personal high five doesn't invalidate it.
Walsingham Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 It's not attributed anywhere. I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at, the headline clearly says "state media" which is exactly what the Global Times is, the lack of Hu Jintao giving Cameron a personal high five doesn't invalidate it. LOL. Interesting point, though. If the 'fire' spreads using social media then why NOT shut it down? It's not as if the rioters were some coherent movement, with alternative comms. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
WDeranged Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 I dunno, riots didn't have much trouble spreading without social media in past years, personally I can't stand Facebook and Twitter but I'd hesitate to give any government new powers over a method of communication. To be honest there's a thousand different ways people can organise a riot nowadays, blocking certain services won't be enough, they'll have to go straight to the root, which is something they've been aiming at for a while, governments tend to take miles when first given an inch.
Raithe Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Two men jailed for inciting disorded via social networks... Both men seperately set up pages on facebook which were some variation of "Let's have a riot in [insert location]" which has ended up giving them four years in prison.. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Morgoth Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 I wonder if Nazi-Germany would have collapsed from within if they had facebook back then. Rain makes everything better.
Calax Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 I wonder if Nazi-Germany would have collapsed from within if they had facebook back then. I can just see Adolfs every other status update: Adolf Hitler says: Oh, and by the way, screw those bloody Jews! Note: this post was in jest, not serious. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Orogun01 Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Two men jailed for inciting disorded via social networks... Both men seperately set up pages on facebook which were some variation of "Let's have a riot in [insert location]" which has ended up giving them four years in prison.. I need one of the in house lawyers to answer this, but can they legally do this? Arrest them for posting on the web. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Raithe Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Two men jailed for inciting disorded via social networks... Both men seperately set up pages on facebook which were some variation of "Let's have a riot in [insert location]" which has ended up giving them four years in prison.. I need one of the in house lawyers to answer this, but can they legally do this? Arrest them for posting on the web. I think it comes down to the "inciting to riot" style of.. does it really matter the medium that the "inciting" is done in? "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
WDeranged Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Essex police charge man over water fight planned on BlackBerry Messenger
Malcador Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Essex police charge man over water fight planned on BlackBerry Messenger It was a code word for anarchist activities. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Orogun01 Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Two men jailed for inciting disorded via social networks... Both men seperately set up pages on facebook which were some variation of "Let's have a riot in [insert location]" which has ended up giving them four years in prison.. I need one of the in house lawyers to answer this, but can they legally do this? Arrest them for posting on the web. I think it comes down to the "inciting to riot" style of.. does it really matter the medium that the "inciting" is done in? Technically I thought that it was "disrupting public order", but can you really call that on the web. Since its not part of the public order. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Nepenthe Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Two men jailed for inciting disorded via social networks... Both men seperately set up pages on facebook which were some variation of "Let's have a riot in [insert location]" which has ended up giving them four years in prison.. I need one of the in house lawyers to answer this, but can they legally do this? Arrest them for posting on the web. Sure. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Orogun01 Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Two men jailed for inciting disorded via social networks... Both men seperately set up pages on facebook which were some variation of "Let's have a riot in [insert location]" which has ended up giving them four years in prison.. I need one of the in house lawyers to answer this, but can they legally do this? Arrest them for posting on the web. Sure. Well? I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Walsingham Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 WDeranged. I atke your point about losing miles instead of inches. But is it really so much worse that the government should shut down Twitter for 24 hrs/48hrs? They can detain you without trial for whole days on suspicion of terrorism. They can shut down the streets. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Moose Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) It's like being back in school really. A group of people can't behave, everyone loses their privileges. Tis rather amusing how adult life parodies school life in so many ways. Edited August 17, 2011 by Moose There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts
Walsingham Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 It's like being back in school really. A group of people can't behave, everyone loses their privileges. Tis rather amusing how adult life parodies school life in so many ways. LOL. We've gone from the Nanny State to the Boarding School State. I'm not sure how I feel about the next stage, which would presumably be the 'Brideshead Revisited Oxbridge Fwah Fwah State'. I suppose at least there will be plenty of champagne. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Nepenthe Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) Two men jailed for inciting disorded via social networks... Both men seperately set up pages on facebook which were some variation of "Let's have a riot in [insert location]" which has ended up giving them four years in prison.. I need one of the in house lawyers to answer this, but can they legally do this? Arrest them for posting on the web. Sure. Well? Well, what? You want me to put it into a sentence? "Sure, they can arrest them for posting on the web." Just the same as, say, putting up posters on the walls. Just because it happens on ze internet, doesn't make it "not real". Edited August 17, 2011 by Nepenthe You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
WDeranged Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 It's like being back in school really. A group of people can't behave, everyone loses their privileges. Tis rather amusing how adult life parodies school life in so many ways. Well put Why CCTV has failed to deter criminals.
Orogun01 Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Well, what? You want me to put it into a sentence? "Sure, they can arrest them for posting on the web." Just the same as, say, putting up posters on the walls. Just because it happens on ze internet, doesn't make it "not real". They can arrest people for putting up posters? I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Raithe Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Well, what? You want me to put it into a sentence? "Sure, they can arrest them for posting on the web." Just the same as, say, putting up posters on the walls. Just because it happens on ze internet, doesn't make it "not real". They can arrest people for putting up posters? If they were posters designed to incite criminal behaviour, disturbing the peace, racial hatred etc etc... Or an "I will give x money if so and so is killed" type of poster It's that fine line between freedom of speech and all that jazz. Although technically I don't think the european countries actually have that as a specific founding principle like they have in the states. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Walsingham Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 ...Because it's ALWAYS a question of judgement. Although I do think it's questionable if incitement merits the same tariff as someone who assaults kids. Even if I think that's because the latter should be far far higher. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Gfted1 Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Well, what? You want me to put it into a sentence? "Sure, they can arrest them for posting on the web." Just the same as, say, putting up posters on the walls. Just because it happens on ze internet, doesn't make it "not real". They can arrest people for putting up posters? This will probably blow your mind but its also illegal to incite a suicide. Yes, yes, free speech takes another hit. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
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