Drowsy Emperor Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 How is it even legal for your property to be surveyed without your consent/knowledge? И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Some observations from my point of view: Romney - A realist mascerading as an idealistic republican - Business friendly, somewhat corporate - Not hating the poor, but indifferent to them - Doesn't like people in general. Not for being shy, but because he's an introvert Santorum - A religious populist - Extrovert, likes to hang around people - Pro-business, but not like Romney. More like they are a magic being that somehow brings welfare to all - Probably a bisexual Gingrish - Pompous, arrogant. Shows serious signs of sociopathic tendencies - Understands the ideals behind the core republicans, but only quote them when it benefits him - Hates the poor - Doesn't really care about business - He gives me "The dead zone"-vibes Paul - Idealist to the core, but with great integrity - Honest and likes to debate on an intellectual level. Get's stumped when dealing with "dumb" people - Truly belives that the poor are just millionares in a slump - Indifferent to business as long as they don't conflict with personal liberties That's pretty much it. Paul is the only one who could win over Obama in a debate. The rest would either be internally conflicted by their own personality and ethics, or shot down by pointing out their religious or political hypocrisy. Edited March 14, 2012 by Meshugger "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I'd really like Ron Paul to win but he simply doesn't stand a chance. If the party threw its weight behind him (which another thing that's not going to happen) I guestimate that he'd beat Obama easy. И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 I don't consider Romney a lunatic, I will consider voting for him depending on his choice of running mate. I would never vote for Santorum, and that is something the republican party should be looking at. I am a complete moderate, a voting base that is really up for grabs and will probably decide the election. Paul could probably grab a lot of moderate voters like me, but he doesn't have a real shot at the nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Haven't had interest in US politics for a lot of time and just recently saw some highlights from Republican debates. And I really don't know what Ron Paul is doing competing for president while endorsing viewpoints that are strongly in contrast to some of the biggest industries and powerhouses in the western world. No wonder the 'mainstream' media (such an oxymoron) pushes him put of the spotlight as much as it can. But it was funny to watch him nail down some of the co-speakers, especially that moderator who said that he was least Republican of the candidates. On the other hand, Romney is most eligible candidate for those that actually pick the president so he's the obvious winner for the Republican nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Paul could probably grab a lot of moderate voters like me, but he doesn't have a real shot at the nomination. My problem with this statement is that it's a meme that the media have promoted since before he even entered the race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Paul could probably grab a lot of moderate voters like me, but he doesn't have a real shot at the nomination. My problem with this statement is that it's a meme that the media have promoted since before he even entered the race But it's true, his party support is minimal. He also hasn't ever really threatened to gather much in the way of delegates. He's done surprisingly well given his politics. I've said before, it is great to have him out there, because he keeps a fresh take on the issues, but he's a lot like the Ralph Nader of the Republican party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblarg Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Guard Dog, you'd really vote for Santorum over Obama? Obama has shown himself to be little more than what, 50 years ago, would have been centrist republican. Santorum has all but called for open theocracy and is, essentially, bigotry incarnate. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Santorum is that nutter presidential candidate from Stephen King's "The Dead Zone". The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I have trouble accepting how big an importance people place on simple labels, especially in a two-party system. Just like I have trouble accepting how Americans don't seem to understand the role of the congress at all. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Santorum is that nutter presidential candidate from Stephen King's "The Dead Zone". No, that would be Gingrich. Santorum is too religious and lacks the necessary narcissism required. Gingrich on the other hand... "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Nep makes a good point, congress would probably do a fair job stopping Beelzebub Santorum from lynching all the gays, unfortunately they'd also put up a hell of a fight if St Paul tried to dismantle the war machinery, either way a president isn't supposed to be a dictator and regardless of whether you think Obama had good intentions or not they can't just do what they want, no matter what they promise on the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Nep makes a good point, congress would probably do a fair job stopping Beelzebub Santorum from lynching all the gays, unfortunately they'd also put up a hell of a fight if St Paul tried to dismantle the war machinery, either way a president isn't supposed to be a dictator and regardless of whether you think Obama had good intentions or not they can't just do what they want, no matter what they promise on the campaign. They can stop the prez from doing bad things, and they can stop him from doing necessary things, if they feel it improves their own candidates election, gaming the lack of knowledge I referred to above. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Is Obama really so bad that you would seriously consider one of these lunatics for running the country. Be careful you don't end up protest voting yourself into a worse situation. Yes, yes and yes again. I'd trade Obama for either Romney or Santorum right now hands down. I would not call either of them lunatics. Romney in particular is a very smart guy. I don't completely agree with either of them on much but either would be an upgrade. That Santorum bit of this post? Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Is Obama really so bad that you would seriously consider one of these lunatics for running the country. Be careful you don't end up protest voting yourself into a worse situation. Yes, yes and yes again. I'd trade Obama for either Romney or Santorum right now hands down. I would not call either of them lunatics. Romney in particular is a very smart guy. I don't completely agree with either of them on much but either would be an upgrade. That Santorum bit of this post? Disgusting. Yeah it really pisses you off that somewhere in the wide world out there someone might have a different politcal viewpint than yours dosen't it. But then again you posted you don't really consider them people so... For what it's worth it pleases me to no end you find my opinion disgusting. I must be doing something right then. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Santorum doesn't just have differerent political views, he's running a campaign that openly looks to oppress women and gay people. For me that is just vile. I am much more comfortable to know Romney will just avoid the issues. Not happy, but at least I know civil rights won't be forced to step backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I just want to juxtapose these two posts because one of them makes logical sense, and the other is kind of terrifying. Is Obama really so bad that you would seriously consider one of these lunatics for running the country. Be careful you don't end up protest voting yourself into a worse situation. Yes, yes and yes again. I'd trade Obama for either Romney or Santorum right now hands down. I would not call either of them lunatics. Romney in particular is a very smart guy. I don't completely agree with either of them on much but either would be an upgrade. That Santorum bit of this post? Disgusting. Yeah it really pisses you off that somewhere in the wide world out there someone might have a different politcal viewpint than yours dosen't it. But then again you posted you don't really consider them people so... For what it's worth it pleases me to no end you find my opinion disgusting. I must be doing something right then. Santorum doesn't just have differerent political views, he's running a campaign that openly looks to oppress women and gay people. For me that is just vile. I am much more comfortable to know Romney will just avoid the issues. Not happy, but at least I know civil rights won't be forced to step backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I don't see how it's possible to not consider Santorum a complete loon. Courtesy of wikipedia: He supports intelligent design. He said this: "The indoctrination that is going on at the university level is a harm to our country. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 WTF is wrong with the Republican party? Is it really so hard to find a normal person with so many US citizens to choose from? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I was going to say that with the people currently poised to run America, I'm glad I don't live there. Then I remembered my country has in a short span gone from a frontrunner in human rights to a frontrunner in racism and discrimination, so I really have no right to speak. What the **** is up with the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I was going to say that with the people currently poised to run America, I'm glad I don't live there. Then I remembered my country has in a short span gone from a frontrunner in human rights to a frontrunner in racism and discrimination, so I really have no right to speak. What the **** is up with the world? I think the problem is that we've become a bit confused about the purpose of democracy. We keep insisting on voting for radicals with 'big' solutions to our problems, when - and I speak from experience - our national problems are far too complex to be dealt with by huge sweeping changes. Unless that's the only way they can be dealt with. Damnit. Now I'm confused. 1 "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Don't get into a big twist about Santorum, he's not going to get nominated. This little bit of political theatre will be done and over by the time we get to the election. He'll make some noise and probably end up with a cabinet job and you can forget all about him then. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Oh, of course. I just don't get how you'd think anyone would be worse than Santorum as president. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 You don't really want to get me started there do you? "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Bah, most of the stuff they say is just to define a position different from other candidates, to hook a certain type of voter in. The actual likelihood of most of that stuff getting implemented is almost non existent. И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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