Libdems lose 295 councils

[Walsingham]

Overachieving no-mates Nick Clegg appears to have hit ahttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13297573"] political banana[/url] placed next to a roller skate at the top of some ornamental stairs. Except the stairs are his own face, and his feet are actually his lunatic party wearing high heels made from modern journalism.

 

 

 

EDIT: My cheery morning has been cheered further by the thought that he's probably already had a good cry about it.

Edited May 6, 2011 by Walsingham

[Raithe]

Of course, the LibDems are already saying they're going to hit back hard at the Tories with serious demands due to the "lack of support" over the AV referendum.

 

So how much in real shift government politics is going to come out of this all...

 

 

Although it's kind of odd to think that the LibDems and the Tories are the oldest political parties in the country, and then Labour became the young whippersnapper...

[Walsingham]

Labour are the beneficiaries in most of those councils, though.

 

Basically there's big swathes of what one chap I knew at school would have called 'jealous peasants', and it is right and proper that they should have a political party to represent them. A lot of whingeing thieving middle class people (who were actually what one might call a 'balsamic' peasant) switched to the LibDems when Labour got into power and didn't siphon enough money their way. Even though Labour created quodzillions of government non-jobs which naturally went to overeducated layabouts - i.e. balsamic peasants.

 

Good lord, I really am going right wing these days. Oh well.

[Gorgon]

It's easy enough to be critical, the hard question is, who would you prefer be in power.

[Raithe]

What was that old quote..

 

"A young man who is not a liberal has no heart. An old man who is not a conservative has no brain."

[Walsingham]

Hey! Just because I'm wrinkly and fat and slow and old, doesn't mean I'm old.

[Gorgon]

Is that another way of saying that people start out naively thinking they can effect social change and inevitably end up old and shriveled in mind and spirit resigned to stop trying to change anything.

[Walsingham]

It's another way of saying that you start out seeing everything that'[s wrong with the way things are, then [i]time [/i]happens and it only gets worse. Largely as a consequence of damn fools thinking they can make things better just by wanting it really very much. So you begin being far more concerned with trying to protect what somehow works.

[Humodour]

It's another way of saying that you start out seeing everything that'[s wrong with the way things are, then [i]time [/i]happens and it only gets worse. Largely as a consequence of damn fools thinking they can make things better just by wanting it really very much. So you begin being far more concerned with trying to protect what somehow works.

 

Wow. That's so cynical.

[Enoch]

It's another way of saying that you start out seeing everything that'[s wrong with the way things are, then [i]time [/i]happens and it only gets worse. Largely as a consequence of damn fools thinking they can make things better just by wanting it really very much. So you begin being far more concerned with trying to protect what somehow works.

It also has to do with the society moving around people. For example, my parents were born in 1955. They were quite on-board with the then-progressive ideals when they were young voters in the '70s, like feminism and racial integration. But those previously-somewhat-leftist ideologies are rather moderate today. And they're less comfortable with more modern progressive movements like gay rights. They haven't changed much, but the definitions of where the 'center' is on certain issues has.

 

Youth has a tendency of winning its political battles with the more aged over the course of a few decades. After they've won those fights, though, they tend to want to protect what they've achieved, rather than keep on fighting the new battles that have captured the imaginations of the next generation.

[Tale]

Is Walsingham drunk, again? He seems to be rambling and malforming URLs.

[Humodour]

It's another way of saying that you start out seeing everything that'[s wrong with the way things are, then [i]time [/i]happens and it only gets worse. Largely as a consequence of damn fools thinking they can make things better just by wanting it really very much. So you begin being far more concerned with trying to protect what somehow works.

It also has to do with the society moving around people. For example, my parents were born in 1955. They were quite on-board with the then-progressive ideals when they were young voters in the '70s, like feminism and racial integration. But those previously-somewhat-leftist ideologies are rather moderate today. And they're less comfortable with more modern progressive movements like gay rights. They haven't changed much, but the definitions of where the 'center' is on certain issues has.

 

Youth has a tendency of winning its political battles with the more aged over the course of a few decades. After they've won those fights, though, they tend to want to protect what they've achieved, rather than keep on fighting the new battles that have captured the imaginations of the next generation.

 

Nice! Quite insightful.

[Raithe]

One slightly divergent thought that's cropped up due to the batch of news on at the moment..

 

I'm seeing reporters standing outside the Welsh Parliment building..and the Scottish Parliment building..

We (the English) don't get any MP's in those buildings.. and the Houses of Parliment in London has MP's from Wales and Scotland.. so you can't say we've got our "own" Parliment these days.

 

So is it just that they want independent government, but keep acces to the tax base of the entire UK..

 

Is it just me, or does something feel a little iffy with the way it's all been developing the past decade?

[Monte Carlo]

It's easy enough to be critical, the hard question is, who would you prefer be in power.

 

Me.

 

After the initial... house-keeping it would be awesome.

[Monte Carlo]

One slightly divergent thought that's cropped up due to the batch of news on at the moment..

 

I'm seeing reporters standing outside the Welsh Parliment building..and the Scottish Parliment building..

We (the English) don't get any MP's in those buildings.. and the Houses of Parliment in London has MP's from Wales and Scotland.. so you can't say we've got our "own" Parliment these days.

 

So is it just that they want independent government, but keep acces to the tax base of the entire UK..

 

Is it just me, or does something feel a little iffy with the way it's all been developing the past decade?

 

Tam Dalyell's West Lothian question writ large. The devolution project in the late 1990s was a gerrymandered Labour plan to keep Labour seats in Scotland and Wales safe in perpetuity. It has imploded spectacularly, Labour's destruction in Scotland is the best thing to happen in England for years. Talk about hoisted by their own petard.

 

De-couple the Scots from the teat of subsidy and let them cry FREEDOOOOOM as they surrender their last scintilla of sovereignty to Brussels. Hoo-bloody-rah. Deep fried Mars Bars all round. Except that I suspect they won't vote for it, the Scots know which side their bread is buttered.

 

If the Union was toast England would be Conservative forever, scary as that sounds it, but it's true until a more sensible centre-right, anti-European party that wasn't UKIP appeared on the scene.

[Tale]

who would you prefer be in power.

Robots.

[Nightshape]

If the Union was toast England would be Conservative forever, scary as that sounds it, but it's true until a more sensible centre-right, anti-European party that wasn't UKIP appeared on the scene.

 

I think its time for me to pack up and leave.

[Monte Carlo]

If the Union was toast England would be Conservative forever, scary as that sounds it, but it's true until a more sensible centre-right, anti-European party that wasn't UKIP appeared on the scene.

 

I think its time for me to pack up and leave.

 

Scotland beckons!

[Nightshape]

If the Union was toast England would be Conservative forever, scary as that sounds it, but it's true until a more sensible centre-right, anti-European party that wasn't UKIP appeared on the scene.

 

I think its time for me to pack up and leave.

 

Scotland beckons!

 

Anywhere that will bloody take me, and give me a games industry job! And no, I won't be heading to Scotland... I'll be leaving this island.

[Monte Carlo]

Let me buy you a beer before you fuq off, you don't live too far from me.

[Walsingham]

 

Monte is quite correct about Scotland. I like to think I'm historically aware enough to regard Scotland leaving the Union is a bloody disaster. But sometimes if you love something you got to set it free.

 

I really don't know why the Scots think they are economically able to sustain the kind of policies they want - i.e. socialist leaning. Back when there was still oil and gas under the North Sea maybe. But now? I mean seriously, guys.

[Monte Carlo]

Salmond seriously advocates some sort of English reparations scheme for all the oil and gas 'we stole.'

 

LOL

 

By 2025 an independent Scotland would be like Portugal economically, but with rain, worse food and higher rates of heart disease. and that's optimistic.

[Walsingham]

Are you mad? Portugal is awesome. At least I assume it is. Portuguese people taught me about 50% of everythingI know about good food and wine.

 

I once escaped a fight in a Scottish chip shop by pretending to be a retard.

[Orogun01]

Are you mad? Portugal is awesome. At least I assume it is. Portuguese people taught me about 50% of everythingI know about good food and wine.

 

I once escaped a fight in a Scottish chip shop by pretending to be a retard.

I'll be sure you get nominated to an Oscar for that.

[Gfted1]

I once escaped a fight in a Scottish chip shop by pretending to be a retard.