Nepenthe Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) Game supports Xbox 360 controller for Windows. ZOMG, consolised crap! (you guys are slacking, I have to do it for you, now?) More seriously though, not surprised after seeing the combat gameplay. Can't say it's exactly a step back after the mechanic in W1, which resulted me in uninstalling after five minutes and cursing the steam sales. I still think I should give it another chance, but... Edited April 5, 2011 by Nepenthe You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) I moved up from straw, I fight cardboard ones now. Uninstalled the game JUST because of the combat being as simple as it was ? High standards! Edited April 5, 2011 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) Seriously, how anyone can criticize TW1's combat is beyond me, its a ****ing auto attack with a few added options to make it more interesting. Its just as sophisticated as any RPG where you lead a solo character, neither much better or much worse. It worked for you in 90% of the RPG's ever released, and you never complained about it. The game doesn't even feature all that much combat. Certainly less than the mind numbing tedium of DA. Or ME's waist high wall arcade shoot em up (previously seen in Space Invaders). Edited April 5, 2011 by RPGmasterBoo Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) Uninstalled the game JUST because of the combat being as simple as it was ? High standards! More like taking any excuse to confirm my negative bias. Sound familiar to you? Witcher 2 is an incredibly good-looking game, though. Too bad this rig won't be running it. Edited April 5, 2011 by Nepenthe You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 More like taking any excuse to confirm my negative bias. Sound familiar to you? I think you've confused me with someone else on the forum. Oh what a way to get back at 'those' people, though, eh? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 More like taking any excuse to confirm my negative bias. Sound familiar to you? I think you've confused me with someone else on the forum. Oh what a way to get back at 'those' people, though, eh? If I was writing just to you, I'd use a PM. I assume you're an intelligent person with at least one functioning eye. Yeah, I better put on another layer of foil wrap, just to be sure. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 If I was writing just to you, I'd use a PM. I assume you're an intelligent person with at least one functioning eye. Yeah, I better put on another layer of foil wrap, just to be sure. Actually quoting me, then using 'you' seemed somewhat indicative. So what's turning you off from playing Witcher 2 ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 If I was writing just to you, I'd use a PM. I assume you're an intelligent person with at least one functioning eye. Yeah, I better put on another layer of foil wrap, just to be sure. Actually quoting me, then using 'you' seemed somewhat indicative. So what's turning you off from playing Witcher 2 ? The implication was that you might have noticed a simllar phenomenon. The spex would be the most honest answer, if it were to run in the first place, it would be a total slide show. A good friend of mine is a huge Witcher fan, and he keeps trying to persuade me to give 1 another chance. I just have a colossal barrier against PC gaming, I currently spend about 12 hours a day hunched over a computer for work, I just can't do it for an extended period when I'm not working (which is why I snipe on FB or a forum or two and then amble off again). Some games I can rig so that I can do sofapcing, others I can't. Initial impression was that Witcher wasn't doable. A small part is just general cussedness, a counter-reaction to all the fawning the game gets. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwars Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 The game looks really nice and atmospheric (like the first one did) but there is a lot of stuff that have to be improved from the first game in order for this to be enjoyable. Hope they can do it because it'd be a shame to waste the well-realized setting. Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 The implication was that you might have noticed a simllar phenomenon. The spex would be the most honest answer, if it were to run in the first place, it would be a total slide show. A good friend of mine is a huge Witcher fan, and he keeps trying to persuade me to give 1 another chance. I just have a colossal barrier against PC gaming, I currently spend about 12 hours a day hunched over a computer for work, I just can't do it for an extended period when I'm not working (which is why I snipe on FB or a forum or two and then amble off again). Some games I can rig so that I can do sofapcing, others I can't. Initial impression was that Witcher wasn't doable. A small part is just general cussedness, a counter-reaction to all the fawning the game gets. Ah ok, thought there was something actually in the game other than its platform restrictions that had you turned off it. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 The implication was that you might have noticed a simllar phenomenon. The spex would be the most honest answer, if it were to run in the first place, it would be a total slide show. A good friend of mine is a huge Witcher fan, and he keeps trying to persuade me to give 1 another chance. I just have a colossal barrier against PC gaming, I currently spend about 12 hours a day hunched over a computer for work, I just can't do it for an extended period when I'm not working (which is why I snipe on FB or a forum or two and then amble off again). Some games I can rig so that I can do sofapcing, others I can't. Initial impression was that Witcher wasn't doable. A small part is just general cussedness, a counter-reaction to all the fawning the game gets. Ah ok, thought there was something actually in the game other than its platform restrictions that had you turned off it. He also swings the other way and TW doesn't offer any options in that regard. Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 He also swings the other way and TW doesn't offer any options in that regard. Now now, that's uncalled for. He might flounce again. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 He also swings the other way and TW doesn't offer any options in that regard. Now now, that's uncalled for. He might flounce again. Glad to see that, in spite of my ignore, Boo is still classy. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 He also swings the other way and TW doesn't offer any options in that regard. Now now, that's uncalled for. He might flounce again. Glad to see that, in spite of my ignore, Boo is still classy. Always, my dear lawyer, always. Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Real Internet Men don't use ignore. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Real Internet Men don't use ignore. What about true Scotsmen? You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 The game doesn't even feature all that much combat. I'm replaying and lost count of how many barghests I had to kill in the first chapter alone. At least in this game it makes sense for them to spawn out of thin air. Next up, there's the swamps... and its legions of drowners and bloedzuigers. Luckily the combat is pretty fast-paced or it would become tedious very quickly. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 the witcher was one of the first rpg's i played where the combat immediately and negatively influenced my opinion of the game. I overall thought it was a good rpg, and well worth the time, but the combat was very stinky. i'd say it was as stinky as DAO's combat, but for different reasons. Then again, the number of rpg's with really fun combat I can probably count on one hand so... its not something I really worry about when playing rpg's, unless the game has too much combat in it (see DAO). Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) I haven't encountered better third-person combat than in Severance: Blade of Darkness. Gothic/Risen's the only RPG that at least tries to somewhat emulate it. Edited April 5, 2011 by virumor The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Like Boo, I don't really understand how anyone could be negatively affected by the Witcher's combat. WHile it was not terribly complex or deep, it was fast paced, over quickly, and reasonably interactive, much more so than say anything Bethesda has done. There was a nice mix of melee, potion use, bomb use, and signs that added a bit of complexity. While there was a lot of potential for grindy combat, most of that was optional: sure you could wander through the swamp hacking up drowned dead and bloedzuigers, but a great deal of that was completely unneccesary to follow the main quest or even most of the side quests. The Witcher was much more a dialogue-focused rpg than is common these days. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Like Boo, I don't really understand how anyone could be negatively affected by the Witcher's combat. WHile it was not terribly complex or deep, it was fast paced, over quickly, and reasonably interactive, much more so than say anything Bethesda has done. There was a nice mix of melee, potion use, bomb use, and signs that added a bit of complexity. While there was a lot of potential for grindy combat, most of that was optional: sure you could wander through the swamp hacking up drowned dead and bloedzuigers, but a great deal of that was completely unneccesary to follow the main quest or even most of the side quests. The Witcher was much more a dialogue-focused rpg than is common these days. The biggest complain one could have about the combat would be that it wasn't as versatile as it should be. There are only 2 truly useful signs, potions are actually very useful but in the end everything boils down to melee. But it was overall, quite complex but could be played very simply. Strongest point of the game. Gerald still looks like albino monkey's ass, though. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Eh, the combat in The Witcher is basically Dance Dance RPG-- click in rhythm when the cursor lights up. Between that and making sure that you pick the right "style" for whatever you're facing, there isn't much to it. And walking through the whole of the swamp area even once (not optional) passes my threshold for "unnecessarily grindy." As for the sequel, I'm pretty ambivalent about the original (my reasons for liking the portions of it that I got through are pretty balanced with my reasons for disliking it), and my CPU is (just barely) below the minimum specs. So I'll revisit whether it's a worthwhile title to grab sometime in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 And walking through the whole of the swamp area even once (not optional) passes my threshold for "unnecessarily grindy." Depends on how you feel about swamps “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 And walking through the whole of the swamp area even once (not optional) passes my threshold for "unnecessarily grindy." Depends on how you feel about swamps What is it with swamps and grindy RPG combat, anyway? The Witcher, NWN 2 (SoZ, too), Wizardry 8, and various Might & Magic games all featured swampy areas whose chief characteristic was trying the player's patience with waves of repetitive fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 The game doesn't even feature all that much combat. I'm replaying and lost count of how many barghests I had to kill in the first chapter alone. At least in this game it makes sense for them to spawn out of thin air. Next up, there's the swamps... and its legions of drowners and bloedzuigers. Luckily the combat is pretty fast-paced or it would become tedious very quickly. Swamps wasn't so bad, eventually you can avoid most of the mobs. Then again I only went there in the day, so maybe that was it. But yeah, there's a fair amount of slashy slashy in Act I, II and V. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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