The official E3 2010 thread of waggle

[CoM_Solaufein]

As the journey goes on.

[Oner]

The best TOR vid yet was when a guy hired two players to kill someone and "make it look like an accident". What do the players do? Storm the place, kill everyone, then shoot the target in the head point blank.

Oooooookaaaay.

[HoonDing]

TOR looks barely better than KOTOR, and could they make those environments even more empty and lifeless? But hey, it has great voice-acting and story!!!

 

Now they just need to release another Blur trailer featuring a half-naked Twi'lek Sith chick dual-wielding lightsabers and its success will be guaranteed.

Edited June 18, 2010 by virumor

[Niten_Ryu]

KotOR online went with Blizzard route and smartly chose low poly models circa 2004. High poly models just don't work when there can be 100s of characters in the same area. Also it's vital that MMOG can be played on POS computers and laptops.

 

For a PC gamer, this years E3 was absolutely horrible. KotOR online is 2011 release if their schedule hold and Warhammer 40k online is 2012. Most other games were casual / motion control crap that can't even be made for PC and other half was ya olde consoled FPS (that'll get bad PC ports). For example in eurogamer PC news there's barely anything. PC gaming is dead as disco.

 

Also in this years E3 there were no Rockstar games, only Portal 2 from Valve (no word on episode 3 or next Half-Life). Blizzard of course skipped the event like they have done in last x years and even Bioware didn't announce any new games, just another crappy DLC for the Dragon Age.

[WorstUsernameEver]

KotOR online went with Blizzard route and smartly chose low poly models circa 2004. High poly models just don't work when there can be 100s of characters in the same area. Also it's vital that MMOG can be played on POS computers and laptops.

 

It's not Kotor it's ToR. And it has nothing to do with graphical quality, but art style... that cartoonish style just looks bad in my eyes, no matter how they wanna put it.

[Niten_Ryu]

KotOR online went with Blizzard route and smartly chose low poly models circa 2004. High poly models just don't work when there can be 100s of characters in the same area. Also it's vital that MMOG can be played on POS computers and laptops.

 

It's not Kotor it's ToR. And it has nothing to do with graphical quality, but art style... that cartoonish style just looks bad in my eyes, no matter how they wanna put it.

 

It'll always be KotOR online for me

 

Art direction is always a subject of debate but IMO it very close to the original KotOR games and I can't think of games from 2004 that would look good today (maybe otuside WoW).

[Humodour]

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[Oner]

TOR Demo Walkthrough

 

 

I know it's not TOR. I wonder if people can actually see a difference between the two.

 

 

TOR interview Bounty Hunters have a western-like storyline? Color me intrigued.

Edited June 18, 2010 by Oner

[Bos_hybrid]

It's not Kotor it's ToR. And it has nothing to do with graphical quality, but art style... that cartoonish style just looks bad in my eyes, no matter how they wanna put it.

 

That somes up my opinion of TOR graphics. Nothing I've seen of this games has impressed me, but I am biased.

[Morgoth]

Since TOR is story-based and everything will be VOed, I wonder how they keep up with all the updates for new areas, quests etc. They constantly have to have VO sessions for mere updates. Sounds like a hassle.

 

Personally, I bet when TOR comes out it will sell like 3-4 million units so that people get an idea what this is all about. A month later, they drag their asses all back to WoW, leaving only a few 100k subscibers left. A year later, Johnny decides to shut down Bioware Austin.

[Niten_Ryu]

Personally, I bet when TOR comes out it will sell like 3-4 million units so that people get an idea what this is all about. A month later, they drag their asses all back to WoW, leaving only a few 100k subscibers left. A year later, Johnny decides to shut down Bioware Austin.

 

While MMOG players go thru content really fast, I doubt average subscriber will quit that fast, even if they only play it like original KotOR games (if it's true that there's enough content to make KotORs 1-9 ). I plan to play/level at least few characters thru the story, probably more depending on how unique different class quests are. Unless KotOR Online is really good multiplayer game, I don't plan to keep active subsciption while waiting new singleplayer storylines.

[Oner]

And then there's the never ending stream of SW fans.

[WorstUsernameEver]

And then there's the never ending stream of SW fans.

 

It didn't help Star Wars Galaxies much.

[Oner]

And then there's the never ending stream of SW fans.

It didn't help Star Wars Galaxies much.

The game where the players were called beta testers? And when things were finally going up Sony bought the project and ****ed it up? No wonder.

[Purkake]

The way things are going TOR seems to be the next big MMO, at least from the marketing and budget perspective.

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

The way things are going TOR seems to be the next big MMO, at least from the marketing and budget perspective.

[HoonDing]

You're doing it wrong, mate.

 

The way things are going TOR seems to be the next big MMO, at least from the marketing and budget perspective.

[Calax]

From a market and budget point, not necessairly a fanbase point guys, calm down.

 

I'm fairly certain it will have STUPIDLY high numbers for initial sales and stuff, but after that, nada

[Purkake]

Do we have ANY other big MMO on the horizon? Blizzard's next one isn't coming out anytime soon, seeing as they are Blizzard.

 

Also pretty much the press and the mainstream are excited for TOR. I'm not saying it will be the next WoW, but it will certainly be the biggest MMO hit in a nice long while, whether it has actual staying power is to be seen.

 

The way things are going TOR seems to be the next big MMO, at least from the marketing and budget perspective.

Edited June 19, 2010 by Purkake

[Llyranor]

My game of the show was Vanquish. Gameplay looks amazing.

 

[Thorton_AP]

I doubt TOR fades shortly after release.

[Niten_Ryu]

Do we have ANY other big MMO on the horizon?

 

Nope, just tons of generic MMOGs from Korea and some superhero crap. I don't know why people found it funny that KotOR Online might get good subscriber numbers. Good numbers don't need to be Blizzards scale, just one tenth of it would do just fine.

[HoonDing]

Guild Wars 2

[Purkake]

Free to play and instance-based, it's pretty much a different ballgame.

[Humodour]

You're doing it wrong, mate.

 

The way things are going TOR seems to be the next big MMO, at least from the marketing and budget perspective.

 

She's hot. I'd tap that.