Apple says: If you want porn, get an Android

[Kaftan Barlast]

I will only say this: if I CAN have porn on it, I WILL have porn on it.

 

 

 

...my calculator in highschool could spout dirty limericks yall

[Volourn]

"Didn't know we had so many supporters of porn here "

 

Supporters of freedom of choice, actually.

 

I don't care for prostitution, drugs, smoking, or abortion; but I do believe in the freedom to choose for yourself.

 

Now... porn, on the other hand, I do support but that's really not the point here.

 

One should not be telling me what I can or cannot have on my phone, play on my computer, watch on my tv, or read about.

[Walsingham]

Okay, the problem is not with having porn on your phone is that you usually take your phone with you to public places.

 

I can't be the only person here old enough to remember when porn was mainly found in the wild. Specifically, in hedges. For reasons I was never privy to.

[Humodour]

Didn't know we had so many supporters of porn here

 

Well we do. There's absolutely nothing wrong with legal porn and they've done enough psychology research studies to prove it isn't harmful (indeed can be beneficial) for me to wonder why you'd even make a statement like that.

[Orogun01]

Volo@: I don't want other people pushing their "freedom of choice" on public places

 

Walsh@: Creepy, just creepy.

 

Krezack@: I'm not arguing whether porn is good or bad, indeed I am an avid consumer. But I draw the line between having a public persona and bringing something that should be kept private into it.

[Hurlshort]

If you use your phone to look at porn in public, you are the one with an issue, not the phone.

[Gorgon]

I dunno, I'd buy a phone that could do internet well but there is always some hook with apple that keeps me away. I don't want to be restricted to one provider and I don't want 'apple internet' either, I want internet. Never mind the porn, it's the principle of the thing.

[Walsingham]

Walsh@: Creepy, just creepy.

 

When I worked in the post sorting office you could rely on some pages turning up in virtually every mailbox. Very strange.

[Killian Kalthorne]

Wait? Apple, a company that uses the fruit that brought sin into the world, is against porn.

 

[Volourn]

"Volo@: I don't want other people pushing their "freedom of choice" on public places"

 

Someone's phone is NOT a public place. You shouldn't be looking at other people's phones. Stop spying on others. It's rude. If someone wants porn on phone thhey should have the right to it. Period.

 

I don't know much abotut he iphone but does it allow one to have movies or other stuff it? I wonder if Apple dioesn't mind R Rated movies being on someone's phone? Hmmm...

Edited April 22, 2010 by Volourn

[Krookie]

I don't know much abotut he iphone but does it allow one to have movies or other stuff it? I wonder if Apple dioesn't mind R Rated movies being on someone's phone? Hmmm...

 

Why?

 

R rated movies and porn are two totally different things. Even R rated movies with sex scenes don't get as...intense as porn.

[Volourn]

Should that distinction matter? Nudity and sexual scenes are still nudity and sexual scenes whether it's a R Rated 'more main stream' movie ala Crash (or was that rated AO? thoguh even then it probably be just considered a movie) or porn.

 

Afterall, one of the big reasons some people are against porn is because of the nakedness and sensuality of it. The same reason why some people are anti R rated movies or even teen rated movies that skirt the edge of 'adult' behaviours.

 

Still, the point stands, a phone is not 'public property'. It's owned by an individual, and what they have on it should be nobody's business. And, while Apple may have the 'legal' right to try to limit on a product they are selling they most certainly, imo, don't have the moral right to do so.

[Gorth]

porn

sensuality

 

Sorry. It just seemed odd using those two words in the same sentence. From what I've observed so far, porn appears more "mechanical" with perhaps some manic/frantic qualities to it. Sensuality wasn't the first thing I would associate it with

 

People hanging around the street watching it on their phones in an "in your face" manner would probably bother me the same way as people playing excessively loud music on the their mp3 players. Not because I don't like music, but I prefer to decide myself what I want to experience. A bit like the old smoker vs non-smoker debate.

[Volourn]

" From what I've observed so far, porn appears more "mechanical" with perhaps some manic/frantic qualities to it. Sensuality wasn't the first thing I would associate it with"

 

Don't think this is the right thread to disucss porn; but you do realize that porn comes in many different versions with differing styles. L0L

 

 

"People hanging around the street watching it on their phones in an "in your face" manner"

 

I have a hard time believing people would actually do that. It's not like people walk down the street reading some smut mag, right? And, no, don't point out the .000000000000000000000001% ofm people who would do that as proof otherwise. Thanks.

[Solo]

I have to agree that if I own the equipment, I should be the one to choose what I put on it. However, maybe the point was that Apple will not have such services to add to the app store. One might be able to look at what ever site and or content as long as they like.

 

The point should be and must be made clear here. Apple can filter all they want on the app store. Just don't filter my phone under my nose. Now if only I knew someone I could ask such a favor to see if one were to use the iPhone to look at porn, would they be blocked? I'm sure as long as one can hook up the phone to their computer and video files can be added I doubt that they could filter out porn. What they can do is stop you from getting it on their site. Right?

[Orogun01]

So; Volo, you have never looked at another's person phone/PSP/book while passing by their side? Mobile phones (specially the Iphone) is most used on public places. You simply don't go to the mall and pop out a porn mag.

 

It's Apple's product and they have a vision of what should and shouldn't be used for. So they have every right of dictating what goes into it, much like a newspaper editor may decide that porn really doesn't belong on their paper.

[Deadly_Nightshade]

You simply don't go to the mall and pop out a porn mag.

 

You see to be saying that if there is porn on the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch a large number of people will view it in public, is that correct? If so, what makes you think that this will be the case?

[Walsingham]

The problem, after thinking about it, seems to me to be the way in which the digital age transfers so much of our lives into the hands of a very limited array of commercial entities. In this way a normal rule of commercial life - that a shopowner can do what they like in their own bloody shop - attains a significance unlike that attached to an ordinary comic book store or what have you.

 

I would suggest therefore that by placing Apple in such a position of dominance we are the ones who have caused the problem, not Apple.

[213374U]

^ Exactly. You mentioned a normal rule of commercial life, but there's also a normal rule of people: they always want to have their cake and eat it, too.

 

I don't think I've ever considered purchase of anything Apple, for many reasons, so it's not like I needed one more. But that's the beauty of supply and demand -- if people really want free unrestricted access to the internet in their phone, someone will provide a solution. Apple can do whatever they well damn please with their products... and I suspect they will do quite well anyway.

 

Also, h4x.

[Kaftan Barlast]

It's Apple's product and they have a vision of what should and shouldn't be used for. So they have every right of dictating what goes into it, much like a newspaper editor may decide that porn really doesn't belong on their paper.

 

 

Id say its more like buying a TV and finding out you can only watch what sony/panasonic/whatever deems appropriate. I bought the damn thing, I should be able to do whatever the *** I want with it.

[Volourn]

"So; Volo, you have never looked at another's person phone/PSP/book while passing by their side? Mobile phones (specially the Iphone) is most used on public places."

 

Only people I know, and only if they allow me to. I'm not into spying on people. Still, the main point, is even if I were to take a peek, I seriously doubt people are gonna start loking at porn in a public place in an obvious way. In fact, even people who like porn don't go around broadcasting that fact in public. Why would they start now? Porn is a 'private' thing for obvious reasons. LOL

Edited April 22, 2010 by Volourn

[Orogun01]

Which is exactly my point, the Iphone is mostly used in public.

[Volourn]

Nah. An iphone is used by a private individual for their own private use, and unless you are purposefully lookinjg at soemone's phone that is spying and immoral. There are plenty of palces where people use their cellphones/iphones. People are simply not gonna look at porn in the middle of the public place for the same reason people don't read nudy magazines in public places. *shrug*

[Deadly_Nightshade]

Which is exactly my point, the Iphone is mostly used in public.

 

The phone part of the iPhone, maybe. The questionable applications part of the iPhone, I would suspect not. I think the main issue here is that you are making the case that it's wrong to have porn on a phone because it might be used in public while the rest of us, or at least most of us, are saying that if porn was being viewed in public it would be the user's fault and not the porn's.

[Walsingham]

Which is exactly my point, the Iphone is mostly used in public.

 

You've realised of course that you will necessarily only see them using it in public.