Amazing show of bipartisanship by 76 senators...

[lord of flies]

76 Senators sign on to Israel letter

More than three quarters of the U.S. Senate, including 38 Democrats, have signed on to a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton implicitly rebuking the Obama Administration for its confrontational stance toward Israel.

 

The letter, backed by the pro-Israel group AIPAC, now has the signatures of 76 Senators and says in part:

 

We recognize that our government and the Government of Israel will not always agree on particular issues in the peace process. But such differences are best resolved amicably and in a manner that befits longstanding strategic allies. We must never forget the depth and breadth of our alliance and always do our utmost to reinforce a relationship that has benefited both nations for more than six decades.

 

A similar letter garnered 333 signatures in the House, and its support marks almost unified Republican support for Benjamin Netanyahu's government, along with strong, but more divided, public Democratic discomfort with Obama's policies in the region.

 

Signatories include key Democrats like Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin, Chuck Schumer, and Robert Menendez as well as all but four Republicans, with signers including Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, John McCain, and Scott Brown.

 

Majority Whip **** Durbin, however, did not sign; nor did Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry and ranking member Richard Lugar.

 

The full Senate letter, circulated by Senators Barbara Boxer and Johnny Isakson, is here.

It is good to know that the mass ruling class conspiracy against the right of national self-determination for the Palestinian people can reach across party lines. Long live the American Reich. Long live our empire. May her oppression last a thousand years. Edited April 14, 2010 by lord of flies

[obyknven]

Long live the American Reich. Long live our empire. May her oppression last a thousand years.

Long live the ZOG!

[Killian Kalthorne]

If you have a problem with it, LoF, don't vote for those senators. See how democracy works.

[obyknven]

If you have a problem with it, LoF, don't vote for those senators. See how democracy works.

O'RLY?

[Deadly_Nightshade]

 

[Pidesco]

Freemasonry? Hahaha.

[Tigranes]

Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while...

 

...uh, why would you link to a pic that is so small you can't read anything it says?

[Rostere]

Couldn't we have a serious discussion here instead of bringing up freemasonry? The bias of American media towards Israel is an interesting phenomenon that deserves a forum topic without spam.

[Gorgon]

Joking aside, it's really difficult to get anywhere in the peace process if Obama is getting ham-stringed from home. If there was ever any doubt, Netanyahu now knows he can start as many settlements as he wants and go through the motions of pretending to be interested in the peace process without any consequences from the US.

[Tigranes]

Fair enough. It *is* quite revealing just how many senators can comfortably put their name down on such an explicitly worded remonstration. You wonder just how much will change in the region under Obama. Without a careful review, but just from memory of media bulletins, it feels as if the post-Arafat period has simply been things getting worse and worse but not being paid enough attention.

[Killian Kalthorne]

OH NOES! ITS THE FREEMASONS!

 

Please, that is a load of BS.

[Humodour]

Joking aside, it's really difficult to get anywhere in the peace process if Obama is getting ham-stringed from home. If there was ever any doubt, Netanyahu now knows he can start as many settlements as he wants and go through the motions of pretending to be interested in the peace process without any consequences from the US.

 

Yeah, this is ****ed up.

 

When you hear Americans calling the Democrats 'left-wing', you have to have a bit of a chuckle.

[213374U]

Because they tend to support Israel? Unless you are sticking to some outdated and awfully exclusive international socialist definition of "left-wing", I don't see your point. Well, I do, but not in this context.

[Humodour]

Because they tend to support Israel? Unless you are sticking to some outdated and awfully exclusive international socialist definition of "left-wing", I don't see your point. Well, I do, but not in this context.

 

My point was far more general. The first example to spring to mind is how Democrat lawmakers responded to healthcare.

 

Edit: But that's off-topic. Israel's blatant disregard for any attempt at a peace process has really turned me off them. I quite like Israel as a country, but it is run by idiots ATM.

Edited April 14, 2010 by Krezack

[obyknven]

The bias of American media towards Israel is an interesting phenomenon that deserves a forum topic without spam.

Hmmm. Why JewSA tends to support Israel? This question is too difficult for me.

Edited April 14, 2010 by obyknven

[Meshugger]

The bias of American media towards Israel is an interesting phenomenon that deserves a forum topic without spam.

Hmmm. Why JewSA tends to support Israel? This question is too difficult for me.

 

Oh laawdy, what's next? Boycotting JewTube?

[Volourn]

"The bias of American media towards Israel is an interesting phenomenon that deserves a forum topic without spam."

 

Oh, pelase. Plenty of Amerikan media criticizes Isreal. Let's also not forget the bias against isreal in most of the rest of the world. You showed your bias by your comment. *shrug*

 

 

" Israel's blatant disregard for any attempt at a peace process has really turned me off them. I quite like Israel as a country, but it is run by idiots ATM. "

 

Works both ways,. It's hard to negotiate peace when the other side wants to destroy you, and yes, that is Hamas' - the government of Palestine - wants, btw.

 

 

Isreal is no angel. They've done a lot of nasty stuff. No doubt about it. But, it's funny how the anti Isreal people seem to be flippant about Hamas' crap.

[Gorgon]

Well the argument could be made that Israel helped those idiots (Hamas) to power through the efforts of the late Sharon. In any case that 'Palestine wants to destroy Israel' is not an accurate portrayal of the whole of Palestinian polity. The extremist on both sides seem to prefer the status quo. That's not going to change any time soon.

[lord of flies]

Works both ways,. It's hard to negotiate peace when the other side wants to destroy you, and yes, that is Hamas' - the government of Palestine - wants, btw.

 

 

Isreal is no angel. They've done a lot of nasty stuff. No doubt about it. But, it's funny how the anti Isreal people seem to be flippant about Hamas' crap.

There is a fundamental difference between when an oppressed people rises in armed resistance against foreign occupation (no matter what ideological character that resistance takes), and when those same foreign occupiers engage in carefully considered acts of malice towards an occupied country, such as attacks on civilian, illegal settlement of occupied territory, and blockades to prevent the importation of food.

[Killian Kalthorne]

It is hard to ignore your constant spam, LoF. Its always the same and you tend to make multiple threads that are basically the same thing. Aw. The US are bad. BAD BAD BAD U.S.! It is tiresome, and most of us are sick of it. Instead of posting this useless drivel on a game forum why don't you actually try doing something about it. It is easy to complain. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and act.

Edited April 14, 2010 by Killian Kalthorne

[lord of flies]

It is hard to ignore your constant spam, LoF. Its always the same and you tend to make multiple threads that are basically the same thing. Aw. The US are bad. BAD BAD BAD U.S.! It is tiresome, and most of us are sick of it. Instead of posting this useless drivel on a game forum why don't you actually try doing something about it. It is easy to complain. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and act.

You (incorrectly) assume that I'm not doing anything about it. Why don't you cry some more that somebody brought up the brutality of US imperialism? Edited April 14, 2010 by Tigranes
Consistency

[Moose]

Instead of posting this useless drivel on a game forum

 

Kind of fitting to post useless drivel on a tiny forum where nobody's paying attention. Just a pity it has to be this one.

[Volourn]

"In any case that 'Palestine wants to destroy Israel' is not an accurate portrayal of the whole of Palestinian polity."

 

Sure it is. Hamas is not some fringe Palestine group ala the KKK in the US. Hamas is an officially sanctioned and elected groiup represenative of Palestinians, and one of their stated goals is the destruction of Isreal. You cannot negotiate peace with a group whose stated mission is your destruction. Until Hamas and Palestinians who support them change that goal to something more reasonable, it's hard to take the cry that 'Isreal doesn't want peace' seriously. Isreal's goal is not to wipe out Palestine. Afterall, they have the power to do so; but they don't formany reason (self serving is obviously one).

 

 

"There is a fundamental difference between when an oppressed people rises in armed resistance against foreign occupation (no matter what ideological character that resistance takes), and when those same foreign occupiers engage in carefully considered acts of malice towards an occupied country, such as attacks on civilian, illegal settlement of occupied territory, and blockades to prevent the importation of food."

 

I know, I know. Palestine/Hamas are totally justified in tagerting Isreal civilians because they're Isrealis and for that they must die. they're not real people. Just Isrealies, right?

 

Hames is awesome because they target Isreal children because it's justified ebcause they're not really people anyways but if Isreal does it they all need to be wiped out. And, yeah, no bias or bigotry there on your part. LMAO

 

 

let's also ignore the fact all the garbage Muslim/Arab states have put Palestinje through yet they get a free pass because they're not Isreal. L0LZ

Edited April 14, 2010 by Volourn

[lord of flies]

I know, I know. Palestine/Hamas are totally justified in tagerting Isreal civilians because they're Isrealis and for that they must die. they're not real people. Just Isrealies, right?

 

Hames is awesome because they target Isreal children because it's justified ebcause they're not really people anyways but if Isreal does it they all need to be wiped out. And, yeah, no bias or bigotry there on your part. LMAO

 

 

let's also ignore the fact all the garbage Muslim/Arab states have put Palestinje through yet they get a free pass because they're not Isreal. L0LZ

You have a really, really childish view of politics. The idea that the oppressed rising against their oppressors is the moral equivalent to the oppressors suppressing the oppressed is just... I don't see how you can really believe that. Are you trolling me or do you really have the moral development of a 12 year old republican?

[obyknven]

Israel is BEST!

Shalom! I too chosen one.