Wrath of Dagon Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 With checkpoints I prefer health regen, because I really hate it when I run out of health and have to restart a checkpoint or get a checkpoint right when I have no health and a mob spawns right in front of me. If it's save any time, I prefer health packs, so that if I use up too much health (or ammo) in an encounter I reload and do it right. Of course I hate checkpoints to start with. Then there's the original Brothers In Arms, which had no health recovery or checkpoints until you finish the level segment, which worked great but the game was specifically designed for that. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) Bobby Kotick: Fans: Haters: Edited November 12, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 At the end of the day, players either liked full health regen, didn't care or were not bothered enough to quit the franchise (me), because if anything CoD sales have improved with each game. I keep hoping a MoH game will come out that will challenge CoD's dominance, for no other reason than some good old competition but EA seems to think sniper levels and ridiculous levels full of panzershreck troopers = fun. Picked up Airborne recently and while the first 3 levels are quite good, the game rapidly goes downhill. Better health system than CoD, but where it really counts the game fails (gameplay). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Apparently the game is getting hammered by the players and getting good reviews by the big sites.. One massive complain seems to be that without dedicated servers, cheating is running rampant and destroying the multiplayer experience. Since the singleplayer experience is only around 4-6 hours, people don't feel they are getting their money's worth.. Gamespot <- by the time of me posting this the user reviews are around 5.4/10 on average, while the "professional" ones are 9.1/10. Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Maybe the "pro" reviewers are the cheaters? Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Apparently the game is getting hammered by the players and getting good reviews by the big sites.. One massive complain seems to be that without dedicated servers, cheating is running rampant and destroying the multiplayer experience. Since the singleplayer experience is only around 4-6 hours, people don't feel they are getting their money's worth.. Gamespot <- by the time of me posting this the user reviews are around 5.4/10 on average, while the "professional" ones are 9.1/10. I'm suspect that the poor reviews are not just people making stuff up to try to prove a point. IGN had professional reviews at 9.5, and reader reviews at 1.7. Some people in their reader reviews said stuff like "I will never buy a game that does not have dedicated servers." and "suck suck suck suck suck suck suck suck suck." Many people have it in their heads that the lack of dedicated servers will also mean pings > 100. Which actually is unrelated to dedicated servers, and it more just network bandwidth (unless your computer sucks so bad that you need to steal cycles from networking to run the game). I host listen servers all the time in a lot of games, and not surprisingly, my friends that connect to it all get pings of 30 which is about what we get with the local dedicated servers. I think the lack of dedicated servers is a bad idea, but I also think that there's a lot of misinformation going on out there in an attempt to smear the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 This is pretty funny, from RockPaperShotgun, why boycotts don't work: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6062/1258035395841.jpg "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Oh the sweet merciful irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yeah, saw that image, amusing. Boycott wouldn't work due to the average consumer being exactly that, heh. As for the reviews, most of them that aren't extreme just hit the game for being more of the same after a quick scan. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 The boycott wouldn't work because 99% of people don't give a damn about dedicated servers and other weird tech stuff. They want to have fun playing a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) I'm going to miss games with 30+ people. I like my cannon fodder to be abundant. Edited November 12, 2009 by Fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 HAHAHAHA That picture is hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) @Fighter: Well, MAG is coming out soon. Edited November 12, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I wonder how it's selling on PC. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syraxis Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) Gamespot <- by the time of me posting this the user reviews are around 5.4/10 on average, while the "professional" ones are 9.1/10. This shows that I wasn't wrong in ignoring all "professional" game reviews (since they're pretty much nothing more than a PR stint nowadays) in favor of user based ones instead. Edited November 12, 2009 by Syraxis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Gamespot <- by the time of me posting this the user reviews are around 5.4/10 on average, while the "professional" ones are 9.1/10. This shows that I wasn't wrong in ignoring all "professional" game reviews (since they're pretty much nothing more than a PR sting nowadays) in favor of user based ones instead. So you went from one bunch of idiots to another? Congratulations! On one side you have a bunch of idiots who praise every game that has a sprinkle of hype on the ever-popular 7-9 scale and on the other you have a bunch of internet nerds filled with unholy rage over dedicated servers. I'm sure at least one of them is objective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syraxis Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 On one side you have a bunch of idiots who praise every game that has a sprinkle of hype on the ever-popular 7-9 scale and on the other you have a bunch of internet nerds filled with unholy rage over dedicated servers. I'm sure at least one of them is objective... True, but you can easily sort out ones that give an honest (and less retarded) opinion versus "OMG THSI GAEM SCUKZ ****S LOLOLOLOL ****NG RIP OFF PLAY THIS INSTED IT HARDKORE!!1!!1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I find filtering out the nonsense pretty hard at the moment haha Though I only looked at IGNs, which had most people giving the game a score of 0.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) @Syraxis: Not on Gamespot or IGN. If 4chan is the septic tank of the internet, they are the drain. Edited November 12, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syraxis Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 If 4chan is the septic tank of the internet, they are the drain. Too true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 This is pretty funny, from RockPaperShotgun, why boycotts don't work: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6062/1258035395841.jpg hahaha, that says a lot about human nature :D Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Well I've just spent about six and a half hours finishing off the solo campaign... Eh, it's got some nice level designs, and some of the most goddamned frustrating ones I've ever encountered in a game. I think I only kept playing because of the couple of nice ones I'd encountered and enjoyed, and curiousity on just how the "story" would go... But when you get down to it, it's a fairly standard shooter on rails. But nothing worthy of major hype. And yeah, that airport mission does have a certain creepy "i need a shower" sensation to it. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Professional reviewers and game review sites are nearly all whores who share a symbiotic relationship with the game developers with obvious incentive to avoid a clear thumbs down rating. Average Joe gamers have preconceptions about games but they aren't nearly as predictable, it also helps if you know a little about their persons and what type of games they like. Take for instance Mkreu describing the Gothic series in terms comparable to the second coming of Christ. You learn to take these things with a grain of salt. Both vararities of reviewer are subjective but the gamer is better at stating up front in no uncertain terms what his preferences are. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) Professional reviewers and game review sites are nearly all whores who share a symbiotic relationship with the game developers with obvious incentive to avoid a clear thumbs down rating. Actually the relationship is with the publisher, not the developer. Edited November 14, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 True enough, the publisher promotes, decides which deserving game site gets the ad dollars, etc. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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