Meshugger Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Bleh, i hated the gameplay in Mass Effect. I can tolerate how it is in NWN2, KotOR and such though. With turn based combat it would've been "teh win!". Final Fantasy X had the best system, more games should do it that way where you can plan and execute with full control in your own time. Alpha Protocol seems to suffer from this as well, but hopefully it will be more like Deus Ex, where it actually felt like a shooter. Unlike Mass Effect, who didn't know what it supposed to be. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I wouldn't bother buying Mass Effect if I were you. Not worth it. Well, maybe worth it for a few hours, but not worth more than $10, maybe $15 in a bargain bin, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) I cannot just stand idly by and let you viciously slander the best game ever. This agression will not stand, man. The truth is that you could pay a hundred dollars for Mass Effect and Itd be totally worth it. This post is funny because it sounds like Im being sarcastic, but Im not. Buy the damn game! Edited November 6, 2009 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Alpha Protocol seems to suffer from this as well, but hopefully it will be more like Deus Ex, where it actually felt like a shooter. Unlike Mass Effect, who didn't know what it supposed to be. How's ME not a shooter? "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I cannot just stand idly by and let you viciously slander the best game ever. This agression will not stand, man. The truth is that you could pay a hundred dollars for Mass Effect and Itd be totally worth it. This post is funny because it sounds like Im being sarcastic, but Im not. Buy the damn game! While I'd say that you're overstating the goodness a bit, I have to mention that it is the only game ever that I've played through three times basically in a row. ODd a bit on it, though. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Alpha Protocol seems to suffer from this as well, but hopefully it will be more like Deus Ex, where it actually felt like a shooter. Unlike Mass Effect, who didn't know what it supposed to be. How's ME not a shooter? ME had "pause and issue commands"-schtick to begin with. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) I cannot just stand idly by and let you viciously slander the best game ever. This agression will not stand, man. The truth is that you could pay a hundred dollars for Mass Effect and Itd be totally worth it. This post is funny because it sounds like Im being sarcastic, but Im not. Buy the damn game! No worries, i was silly enough to buy it when it was released. The horror, i indirectly funded your happiness Edited November 6, 2009 by Meshugger "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Alpha Protocol seems to suffer from this as well, but hopefully it will be more like Deus Ex, where it actually felt like a shooter. Unlike Mass Effect, who didn't know what it supposed to be. How's ME not a shooter? ME had "pause and issue commands"-schtick to begin with. And so what? You still aim and shoot in real time as usual. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Alpha Protocol seems to suffer from this as well, but hopefully it will be more like Deus Ex, where it actually felt like a shooter. Unlike Mass Effect, who didn't know what it supposed to be. How's ME not a shooter? ME had "pause and issue commands"-schtick to begin with. And so what? You still aim and shoot in real time as usual. Since the whole gameplay is designed according to this designfeature, then the whole experience is degenerated into a shooter-wannabe. It is simply sluggish. Compare it to Halo and laugh. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 deus ex was a better shooter AND a better rpg than mass effect. imo Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Well.. ME was neitehr a shooter or rpg so that's all good. ME was an Action RPG, and it is the best one ever. Period. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Since the whole gameplay is designed according to this designfeature, then the whole experience is degenerated into a shooter-wannabe. It is simply sluggish. Compare it to Halo and laugh. I never said it was a great shooter, but it's decent enough, and the magic powers and squad controls make it more fun also. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 deus ex was a better shooter AND a better rpg than mass effect. imo No, Deus Ex was a lacklustre Shooter and no RPG at all. It was however the combination of several features that leveraged it into greatness. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaesun Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 deus ex was a better shooter AND a better rpg than mass effect. imo No, Deus Ex was a lacklustre Shooter and no RPG at all. Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Well.. ME was neitehr a shooter or rpg so that's all good. ME was an Action RPG, and it is the best one ever. Period. better than diablo 2? Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Never played Diablo 2. But, since it's because Diablo 1 BUT more, Diablo 2 is what i refer to as a fake Action RPG. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Never played Diablo 2. But, since it's because Diablo 1 BUT more, Diablo 2 is what i refer to as a fake Action RPG. ummmmm.... didnt diablo 1 create the action rpg genre? how could it be fake? Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 deus ex was a better shooter AND a better rpg than mass effect. imo No, Deus Ex was a lacklustre Shooter and no RPG at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) The Diablo games belong to subgenre of RPGs thats called "roguelikes". The official academic definition of an Action-RPG is any game that has stats, abilities, perks and so on. but where you directly control your characters moves. Such as Gothic, Mass Effect or Fallout 3. Edited November 7, 2009 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Back to Mass Effect. I just got my new PC yesterday, but when I downloaded ME through EA's download manager, at the very end of the install process it tells me it could not copy the file saferun.exe and saferun.dll (or something along those lines), and the installation finishes unsuccessfully. I've tried the manual install trick at the Bio forums, but that just got me to an odd Unreal Engine screen that I had never seen before and just hung there. Any help? This is really driving me nuts. System: Windows Vista x64 Home Premium Intel Core i7 920 (2.66 Ghz) 4GB DDR3 RAM Geforce GTX260 (with latest drivers installed) Onboard 7.1 sound. DirectX 10. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) No idea, but the EA download manager is really bad compared to Steam and Co, you have to pay extra to be able to redownload the game after like 6 months. Edited November 7, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theseus Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Let the problems begin! Windows 7 64bit Can't get it to start. I bought it through steam and after it downloaded I went to play and it started to update Direct X (step 1 of 2) and then puff nothing happened. Now when I go to click on Mass Effect I get the loading circle followwed by nothing. I tried to update Direct X nothing happened. Drivers are upto date. I ran in compatibility mode, even with administrators access and still the same results. They need to patch this game for Windows 7 i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Try the official tech support forum and/or Google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Try the official tech support forum and/or Google? The official tech support forum is all but dead. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 No idea, but the EA download manager is really bad compared to Steam and Co, you have to pay extra to be able to redownload the game after like 6 months. I don't suppose there's a way to download it through Steam if I already downloaded it through EA, huh? "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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