alanschu Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 Haha if that isn't a troll post I don't know what is. Bethesda? Honestly muffin. We're not talking about Fallout here kthxbai. If the delay of a game causes this much issue for you, you have deeper problems to worry about.
Fionavar Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 Note: If we cannot post w/o flaming or baiting, then there will be an opportunity to enjoy the ever-popular Mod Status ... The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161)
ironcreed Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 LOL, check out this post over on GAF. Apparently the delay has been in the cards for awhile now. "Yeah, they had a AP-tricked-out bus outside the venue at the Metallica show a few weeks ago, and it said '2010'. So it's been delayed for a while, even if it wasn't official." http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php...5289&page=3 How nice of SEGA to inform everyone putting money down for the game, thinking it was coming in October. I especially feel bad for the folks who already paid for it on Steam, as they cannot get their money back from what I understand.
Sam Fisher Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 LOL, check out this post over on GAF. Apparently the delay has been in the cards for awhile now. "Yeah, they had a AP-tricked-out bus outside the venue at the Metallica show a few weeks ago, and it said '2010'. So it's been delayed for a while, even if it wasn't official." http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php...5289&page=3 How nice of SEGA to inform everyone putting money down for the game, thinking it was coming in October. I especially feel bad for the folks who already paid for it on Steam, as they cannot get their money back from what I understand. It would be disheartening if they had planned on postponing this long without mentioning it to the buyers for weeks. I mean after all, we (the buyers) are their source of income.
Cl_Flushentityhero Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 How nice of SEGA to inform everyone putting money down for the game, thinking it was coming in October. I especially feel bad for the folks who already paid for it on Steam, as they cannot get their money back from what I understand. You can get a refund from steam, you'd just lose Space Siege as well as the AP preorder.
ironcreed Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 LOL, check out this post over on GAF. Apparently the delay has been in the cards for awhile now. "Yeah, they had a AP-tricked-out bus outside the venue at the Metallica show a few weeks ago, and it said '2010'. So it's been delayed for a while, even if it wasn't official." http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php...5289&page=3 How nice of SEGA to inform everyone putting money down for the game, thinking it was coming in October. I especially feel bad for the folks who already paid for it on Steam, as they cannot get their money back from what I understand. It would be disheartening if they had planned on postponing this long without mentioning it to the buyers for weeks. I mean after all, we (the buyers) are their source of income. Normally I would have not put much stock into such a post, but beings it was posted on GAF, I think it is fairly credible.
alanschu Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) Have they ever given a specific date, or were the specific dates (outside of October 2009) taken mostly from retail sites? I haven't really followed the news clippings of the game. Edited September 26, 2009 by alanschu
AlphaPro Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 aw, I just now realized I have to decide between this, Bioshock and Deadrisng 2 now. That sucks. But both my x-boxes are broken, so I hope they delay it to 2036, then make it more epic then epic itslef. build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day, but set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Slowtrain Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 Hopefully, it means that SEGA was mostly impressed by what AP is showing now, and sent it back for some additional polishing and sizzle because they want to give it a big push as one of their major releases next year. If Sega hated the game and just wanted to get rid of it, they'd just push it out the door, earn what they could, and forget about it. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Warren Bills Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 aw, I just now realized I have to decide between this, Bioshock and Deadrisng 2 now. That sucks. But both my x-boxes are broken, so I hope they delay it to 2036, then make it more epic then epic itslef. whoa whoa whoa, when is Dead Rising 2 coming out? because that will be a primary game for me next year.. then i was thinking about GT5 & God of War 3.. man this sucks.
Dennis9989 Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 aw, I just now realized I have to decide between this, Bioshock and Deadrisng 2 now. That sucks. But both my x-boxes are broken, so I hope they delay it to 2036, then make it more epic then epic itslef. whoa whoa whoa, when is Dead Rising 2 coming out? because that will be a primary game for me next year.. then i was thinking about GT5 & God of War 3.. man this sucks. I got your troll right here.
Masterfade Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 Its not the same - Sierra did not own Br
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Hopefully, it means that SEGA was mostly impressed by what AP is showing now, and sent it back for some additional polishing and sizzle because they want to give it a big push as one of their major releases next year. If Sega hated the game and just wanted to get rid of it, they'd just push it out the door, earn what they could, and forget about it. That would be so much fun. Still, I doubt this is the case. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
Masterfade Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) We can't be sure they own AP outright- it was an original Obsidian IP, after all, rather than a Sega commissioned project (unlike AlienC). For all we know a 'cancellation' might see it revert to Obsidian's ownership. From USTPO website: Word Mark ALPHA PROTOCOL Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: video game software; computer game software; computer game programs; video game programs for use with handheld game machines; video game programs for use with mobile phones, downloadable video game programs Owner (APPLICANT) Kabushiki Kaisha Sega DBA Sega Corporation CORPORATION JAPAN 1-2-12 Haneda, Ohta-Ku Tokyo JAPAN 144-8521 Of course there might be a clause in their contact saying if SEGA cancel the game then the IP returns to Obsidian. But for now it does appear SEGA owns AP. Edited September 27, 2009 by Masterfade
Rostere Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Thanks to Beth/Bio, console people nowadays expect a $60 RPG to have [...] good stories, [...]. Say what? "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!"
Cl_Flushentityhero Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 He said people expect it, not that they actually get it
ltolman Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 sad sad sad; 2009 was horrible, too many game delays In 2008 I added it up......I bought 10 PC game titles; big ones and not something small like "The Price is Right" In 2009 I added it up.....I bought 5 PC game titles (big ones as well) Wouldve been more. But alas I had to wait for 1-Bioshock 2 2-Mass Effect 2 3-Splnter Cell Conviction 4-Singularity 5-Alpha Protocol 6-Assassins Creed 2 (PC) But anywho. I think I've also given up as far as what gets released when. I think I'll just wait til 1 day before its supposed to come out, check the date, then the next day see if its available. Dragon Age Origins & The Sabatouer are supposed to be released November/December but I'm not holding my breath But to stay on topic here, yeah I just read that AP is coming out next year, Q1 2010. Very sad, was sincerely hoping AP was my next huge game to play, guess not I'm still keeping my reserve at Gamestop
Cloaker Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Thanks to Beth/Bio, console people nowadays expect a $60 RPG to have [...] good stories, [...]. Say what? Since you skipped everything else, he said massive amounts of people enjoy the stories from those studios, even if you don't.
AlphaPro Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 aw, I just now realized I have to decide between this, Bioshock and Deadrisng 2 now. That sucks. But both my x-boxes are broken, so I hope they delay it to 2036, then make it more epic then epic itslef. whoa whoa whoa, when is Dead Rising 2 coming out? because that will be a primary game for me next year.. then i was thinking about GT5 & God of War 3.. man this sucks. Deadrising 2 is comin March 2010 i think. Ill probably get DR2 then decide between Bioshock and Alpha Protocol. If I got the cash, ill get both. Also, whos the n00b who called me a troll *cough* Dennis *cough*. Just thought you should know that me living under a bridge does not classify me as a troll, im homeless and its warm and cozy there. build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day, but set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Slowtrain Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Hopefully, it means that SEGA was mostly impressed by what AP is showing now, and sent it back for some additional polishing and sizzle because they want to give it a big push as one of their major releases next year. If Sega hated the game and just wanted to get rid of it, they'd just push it out the door, earn what they could, and forget about it. That would be so much fun. Still, I doubt this is the case. Allow me the indulgence of my fantasies, plz. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Zoraptor Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 [TESS citation]Of course there might be a clause in their contact saying if SEGA cancel the game then the IP returns to Obsidian. But for now it does appear SEGA owns AP. Heh, I trawl TESS frequently, so I know who has the registration. I was thinking of the clause thing, basically, whereby if Sega failed to live up to its obligations the IP would revert (or have the option to be bought out by another publisher). It certainly isn't unheard of for companies to have TMs of properties registered that they don't own in any absolute sense, see Baldur's Gate for an example-- it clearly says on the box that WOTC owns the TM, but check on TESS and you get it being owned by IPLY and Bioware at various times, and only now that the legal shenanigans have been sorted is it actually listed as held by WOTC.
Kelverin Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Delayed? Too bad. Back to SoZ. See next year! Hey OBI spend some time reading the fleming novels and adding more to the "Bond" type character. This might be a blessing in disguise, good thing Sawyer was not involved in this he might have gone over the edge J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Nepenthe Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) We can't be sure they own AP outright- it was an original Obsidian IP, after all, rather than a Sega commissioned project (unlike AlienC). For all we know a 'cancellation' might see it revert to Obsidian's ownership. Sony could also want a mass effect challenger on their platform. Currently they only have a third world version of fallout 3 (I think the DLC came out last week, I've been away for a couple of weeks so haven't been able to check.) The leaked minutes don't say it, so I'm not going to speculate anything more on the Sony angle. edit: Wonder who I was trying to quote? It sure wasn't that one! Edited September 27, 2009 by Nepenthe You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
uzivatel Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Its not the same - Sierra did not own Br
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