FO3 pirated in less than 24 hours after gold

[Strix]

So far nothing you've said suggests anything about modding a console without chipping it is easy...

 

Edited.

[Slowtrain]

Well, I think it must be pretty much a bummer for Bethesda and all the people who worked on the game. I'm sure they are all pretty upset, and I can understand why. Reviewers may suddenly find it a little harder to get their hands on advance copies of high-profile games from this point on.

 

@rn: You know what, you're probably right.

[Killian Kalthorne]

Leaked or not, if the game is worth buying then people who planned on buying it will buy it anyway, and the people who plan on pirate it will pirate it anyway. This doesn't change one bit my purchasing plans.

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

I still buy all the games I get. And I'm scared of actually modding my Xbox for fear I'll screw everything up.

 

So If FO3 goes lower than 60$ I'll buy it.

[Matthew Rorie]

I'm fine with you guys discussing the effects of piracy, but specific discussions of how to pirate games will be edited and moderated.

[Strix]

I doubt it will impact PC sales much unless people see the videos and decide not to buy the game, although the release might occur earlier than scheduled to combat the leak.

[Strix]

I'm fine with you guys discussing the effects of piracy, but specific discussions of how to pirate games will be edited and moderated.

 

I didn't think I got that specific, but whatever.

[Mamoulian War]

Clearly, they need to use more draconian DRM.

 

'FO3 won't use DDRM!'

 

'FO3 pirated 24 hours after gold!'

 

hahahahahahahahahaha, gogo PC gaming.

 

Spore uses DDRM

 

Spore pirated 24 hours after gold...

 

I don't see your point tbh

 

All this **** does not change anything that i will be buying FO3 game just to show EA they can stick they DDRM up in their hairy ass...

[Mamoulian War]

Ironically it was the 360 version that was leaked, I guess "PC piracy" must now be moving to the "unblemished" consoles...

 

That is very interesting. I didn't know significant piracy existed on a large scale on consoles.

 

Console piracy seems more regional and not as widespread as PC piracy.

 

it depends on the country where you live... i do not know a single person who does not own mod-chipped console, and i do know more people here who buys PC games and pirate console games, because console games cost sometimes more than double price than PC games here...

[Nick_i_am]

Spore uses DDRM

 

Spore pirated 24 hours after gold...

 

I don't see your point tbh

 

Exactly

[Hell Kitty]

The bigger chains don't obviously, but there are many smaller stores that do. And there's lots of guys who get it done as well.

 

So is it legal and they have modded consoles on the shelf, and advertise this fact, or is it illegal and all done on the sly? Say I turned up in Portugal and decided I wanted to buy a modded console, assume I speak the language but don't know my way around and don't know anybody, can I find a store that will sell me a modded console as easily as I can one that will sell my a legit console?

 

Probably, yes. The percentage of the consumer base who is tech savvy, however, is probably bigger on the PC side.

 

Probably, but what does PC users being more tech savvy have to do with PC piracy versus console piracy?

 

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All you're doing here is showing just how much more complicated it is to run pirated games on console than on PC.

 

On the whole fairly simply to do and nothing a non-tech savvy person couldn't manage with a step-by-step guide.

 

Clearly we have a different idea of what makes for "tech savvy". 100% of the people I know with HD consoles and HD TVs didn't even realise their consoles were still running in SD. That's about as un-savvy as you get. To someone like that, "all you need to do is insert a memory card and run a self-extracting program that you've set up on a PC" is anything but simply, it'd sound rather intimidating. It might sound simple to us, but I can guarantee you that the average person won't agree.

Edited October 9, 2008 by Hell Kitty

[Strix]

All you're doing here is showing just how much more complicated it is to run pirated games on console than on PC.

 

I guess it is slightly harder, although I still don't think it's that complicated.

[Mamoulian War]

The bigger chains don't obviously, but there are many smaller stores that do. And there's lots of guys who get it done as well.

 

So is it legal and they have modded consoles on the shelf, and advertise this fact, or is it illegal and all done on the sly? Say I turned up in Portugal and decided I wanted to buy a modded console, assume I speak the language but don't know my way around and don't know anybody, can I find a store that will sell me a modded console as easily as I can one that will sell my a legit console?

 

Probably, yes. The percentage of the consumer base who is tech savvy, however, is probably bigger on the PC side.

 

Probably, but what does PC users being more tech savvy have to do with PC piracy versus console piracy?

 

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All you're doing here is showing just how much more complicated it is to run pirated games on console than on PC.

 

On the whole fairly simply to do and nothing a non-tech savvy person couldn't manage with a step-by-step guide.

 

Clearly we have a different idea of what makes for "tech savvy". 100% of the people I know with HD consoles and HD TVs didn't even realise their consoles were still running in SD. That's about as un-savvy as you get. To someone like that, "all you need to do is insert a memory card and run a self-extracting program that you've set up on a PC" is anything but simply, it'd sound rather intimidating. It might sound simple to us, but I can guarantee you that the average person won't agree.

 

I don't know how in Portugal, but here it is compeltely legal to do with your purchased goods what you think is best for you... you are only risking to lose warranty if you open it... and this can be circumvented when you let it mod by someone who works in "authorised repair shop" (dont know the right english name for facility like this)...

[Nick_i_am]

Brothel

[Hell Kitty]

I guess it is slightly harder, although I still don't think it's that complicated.

 

I don't think it's that complicated either, but that's missing the point. What matters is how complicated and risky it seems to non tech savvy people, especially compared to PC piracy.

 

I don't know how in Portugal, but here it is compeltely legal to do with your purchased goods what you think is best for you... you are only risking to lose warranty if you open it... and this can be circumvented when you let it mod by someone who works in "authorised repair shop" (dont know the right english name for facility like this)...

 

I'm pretty sure that's how it is here in Australia, after all I bought the stuff to mod my PS2 from an Aussie online store. Although while you can buy mods you won't find anyone advertising them or offering pre-modded consoles nor are they offered by "everyone".

Edited October 9, 2008 by Hell Kitty

[mkreku]

What?! It's October 9! It's supposed to be out on October 31 here in Sweden!

 

I'm not the biggest fan of Bethesda but this **** has got to stop! Noone deserves this. If there are pirated games out in the wild THREE WEEKS before it hits retail then something definitely has gone too far! That's just sick. It's repulsive.

[Pidesco]

So is it legal and they have modded consoles on the shelf, and advertise this fact, or is it illegal and all done on the sly? Say I turned up in Portugal and decided I wanted to buy a modded console, assume I speak the language but don't know my way around and don't know anybody, can I find a store that will sell me a modded console as easily as I can one that will sell my a legit console?

 

It's illegal, I think, but no one really cares or pays attention. I've seen magazine adverts offering either modded consoles or the ability to mod consoles. But, generally, all you need to know is how to use google.

 

Probably, yes. The percentage of the consumer base who is tech savvy, however, is probably bigger on the PC side.

 

Probably, but what does PC users being more tech savvy have to do with PC piracy versus console piracy?

 

It means that on the PC, pirates are a bigger percentage of the consumer base.

[Meshugger]

Well, that was fast.

 

But what is this deal about console games being less pirated? Have anyone of you ever even seen a torrent-site? I will not give any links ofcourse, but the amount of PCs out there/seeders-ratio is less than the amount of consoles out there/seeders-ratio.

 

And Pidesco is right about the consolemodding-scene in Europe, atleast. It isn't exactly a top priority of the authoritites to chase kids with modded xboxes or playstatons anyway.

[Pop]

If any of y'all happen to get it (and good luck, [a piracy site that shall remain nameless has something or other]) be smart, use protection. Make sure you're not going to hurt yourself.

 

Edited by SteveThaiBinh to remove name of piracy website.

Edited October 9, 2008 by SteveThaiBinh

[Tigranes]

Btw, please do not post any information or links that might (a) help someone find the leaked FO3, or (b) pirate games in general. There's no problem with discussing this, but we can do so without posting specific information that others can just google.

 

Anyway, my oft-quoted point about DRM isn't something I actually agree with. There's no sense in connecting this to the need for DRM. But the point is... they will.

[Starwars]

There's been a few streams of people playing the game here and there, and I have to say that my interest in the game has yet another all-time low. I'm sorry, but I think this game looks terrible. Not only a terrible Fallout game, but if compared to Oblivion it just doesn't feel like it has improved that much. Voiceacting and writing is still terrible, and in some ways worse. Since they've tried to make it more ambitious, the failure is just even harder (just like what happened in Shivering Isles). The voiceacting is truly bad with a few exceptions.

 

 

I dunno, I'm extremely unimpressed. Now, I was expecting to not like it as a Fallout game (anything resembling Fallout is just... gone), but it doesn't even look very good as a stand-alone game either.

 

A real bugger that it leaked this early though. But yeah, ironic that it's the Xbox360 version that leaked.

[Meshugger]

I just saw a couple of gameplay videos. After a while, i completely forgot that it was supposed to be a Fallout game. Stalker feels more like Fallout than this.

 

And oh, the music was dreadfully bad.

[Slowtrain]

It doesn't surprise me in the least that the game blows, BUT a bunch of people put in a lot of hard work on this game, for good or for ill, and it sucks that this had to happen to them.

 

I'n actually more inclined to purchase it now then I was this morning. Weird.

[Strix]

After a while, i completely forgot that it was supposed to be a Fallout game.

 

I had similar feelings, although the Oblivion feeling didn't really hit until after he got outside of the vault - then everything started to really go downhill (not to say it was that good before then, but I was hoping it was just a crappy intro). I still might buy the game if I see it on sale somewhere, if only because modders will be able to do wonderful things to it and, maybe, make it worthy of the Fallout name.

[Tigranes]

No proper modding support for FO3 for now, is the official word. So, uh.