Diamond Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Meh, I actually agree with ramza on this one. I'd prefer it to be more of Gladiator style, rather than comic book style. I don't say it will not be a fun movie, but it is not a "wow" or "must see" kind of movie.
Hildegard Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 It looks awesome. I'll see it. American perspective my ass. Want a movie that doesn't have an American edge to it? Don't watch war movies made in America. Simple. Secondly, judge the movie on its own merits, not on the psycho who created its basis. If it's meant to be a high flying action movie, and you expect a dramatic love story so judge it based on that, you're an ****, and you need to die. And stop with the anti-american ****. We know you don't like America. Got it. Check. List's apparently done, as that seems to be one of the only things you have a problem not bitching about. The movie has an interesting style, and an interesting premise. Leave it at that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Someone is not having a good day apparently I'll say what I want whenever the hell I want and you, or anybody else, ain't gonna make me stop, capisci? What I'm saying is that US filmmakers have a tendency of spoiling such movies in their own indirect way they know best...happens with 95% of historic movies.
LoneWolf16 Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) I remember Eldar (at least I think it was Eldar) in a thread on the Lair saying he was worried Alfonso Cuar Edited December 11, 2006 by LoneWolf16 I had thought that some of nature's journeymen had made men and not made them well, for they imitated humanity so abominably. - Book of Counted Sorrows 'Cause I won't know the man that kills me and I don't know these men I kill but we all wind up on the same side 'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will. - Everlast
Gorgon Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) What is the political message in 300. I can't really see one. It's about 300 Spartans who get butchered to a man in a last stand against Xerxes. Xerxes however loses because he commits hybris. American agenda ? Maybe if it was the other way around Edited December 11, 2006 by Gorgon Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
LadyCrimson Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Gonna have to mostly agree w/Ramza too - the trailer just looks like every other special-effects blockbuster movie trailer. Nothing special. Not saying it doesn't look like it'll have some cool battle scenes. Probably will. But as much as I like well-done big bold battles in media, I'm also getting a little tired of the CGI generated look. It's like that period where every medieval trailer seemed to have the "army fires 1000's of arrows up into the air" shot. Zzzzz. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
Shadowstrider Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I'll say what I want whenever the hell I want and you, or anybody else, ain't gonna make me stop, capisci? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Man, how did you get so tough?
Surreptishus Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I'll say what I want whenever the hell I want and you, or anybody else, ain't gonna make me stop, capisci? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Man, how did you get so tough? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like your Popeye, he eats his spinach.
metadigital Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Incidentially, there is no 'American' perspective to the 300 story. American military historians have a soft spot for ancient Grece, but I have a hard time seeing the story as analogous to anything contemporary. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well the bad guys in the movie are Persian. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually, a better parallel is to equate the modern hyper-power of the USA with the equivalent Empire if the Ancient world: Persia. Other comparisons could be made, between the tiny force of arms that dared to defy them, in some backwater of the world (Greece and, say, al-Qā`ida) ... OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Hildegard Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I'm tired, it's finals time, I've been up for 36 hours, I've got 6 pages of a 10 page paper done that's due in an hour, and I may fail a couple classes. But that's not really the reason. You actually annoyed me for once with the anti-american ****....I must be slipping. :"> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hehehehehe :D I understand, no hard feelings, cheers.
Hildegard Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I'll say what I want whenever the hell I want and you, or anybody else, ain't gonna make me stop, capisci? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Man, how did you get so tough? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm the combative anti-imperialistic US Hegemony hating Hildegard....don't you remember me?
Gromnir Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 frank miller: Tool of The Man. ... okie dokie. in any event, am kinda flattered that courage, honor and sacrifice is now considered "American." didn't think we had a monopoly. the movie looks like the comic... for better or worse. were no way to make look likes comic w/o substantial cgi. am trying to imagine just how much cgi would be needed for TDKR, another one of frank's flag waving stories. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
alanschu Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 This is about Thermopylae right? Didn't know it was a comic book, which explained some of the art style in the trailer.
metadigital Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Yes. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
deganawida Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) @calax: What do you mean by "He's screwy and doesn't work with what exsists."? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Recently he did the Batman: Year One miniseries, which is an origin story of batman and several of his opponents. Only problem is that he took characters and made them into what they never were (Catwoman for example was a prostitute in year one. She'd never stoop that low on the ladder to survive). He's also a kook in that he's the one writing Batman: Holy Terror where batman hunts down and captures Osama Bin Laden. In "Dark Knight Strikes Again" he took a story and turned it into a chaotic bucket of ideas that he tried to turn into some sembalance of a story but ended up with the reader feeling like they just read five seperate unrelated nonsequiters. He's also a born again Patriot. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Recently? Recently? Batman: Year One came out in 1986/87, which was before you were even born! Further, it was a reboot of the Batman mythos following Crisis on Infinite Earths and was in the same vein as Man of Steel. Holy Terror has Bats going after Al Qaeda agents, not bin Laden. Miller's stressed that point several times. DK:SA was crap, I'll agree with that. There isn't a bloody thing wrong with being a patriot. Edited December 11, 2006 by deganawida
Hildegard Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 in any event, am kinda flattered that courage, honor and sacrifice is now considered "American." didn't think we had a monopoly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only in movies you have, only in movies....
alanschu Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) No other studios from any other country have made movies about courage, honor, and sacrifice? Man, sounds like a market waiting to be tapped! Edited December 11, 2006 by alanschu
metadigital Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Yeah, all those Bollywood films are about singing and polygamy. " OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Hildegard Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 No other studios from any other country have made movies about courage, honor, and sacrifice? Man, sounds like a market waiting to be tapped! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't excatly mean that...and if you think so, then....yeah you go right ahead, cash out your savings and start directing movies about brave Canadian penguins or something...
alanschu Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) I didn't excatly mean that Then perhaps you should have chosen your words a bit more carefully. And there are no penguins in Canada. Edited December 11, 2006 by alanschu
Hildegard Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I didn't excatly mean that Then perhaps you should have chosen your words a bit more carefully. And there are no penguins in Canada. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't lie, I bet there are penguins in ZOOs across Canada "
Azure79 Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 A big bloody battle with a small number of elite soldiers battling against hordes of invaders against all reason and hope? Sounds like my kind of movie.
Meshugger Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 "For Freeeedooooom!" One of historys most militaristic and totalitarian states is fighting for freedom? hehe. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Lucius Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) Well wanting to be free of the Persian empire is a battle for freedom as well, more or less. ^_^ Free to be under another dictator? h Edited December 11, 2006 by Lucius DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting.
Pop Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Looks like a genre picture to me. Frank Miller's The Scorpion King 2: the 300. Oh yeah. I just wonder if they'll have the balls to show spartan women as they were, no-bull**** militants who trained for battle just like their husbands. Judging from the trailer, the women in the movie seem like the noble feminine-beauty types (the kind of woman a real man would fight for). Kind of a let down. But I realize that this whole Thermopylae thing is a thin pretext for some cinematic professional wrestling + swords. It's to their credit that I haven't seen a "based on a true story" yet. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
Jorian Drake Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 boring....another empty movie about courage, honor and sacrifice from an American perspective.....sick of those lousy movies.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would love to see a WW2 themed movie from a japanese or german perspective
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