olgeezer Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Just a quick post here. I've never played Sith Lords and just picked it up for 15 bucks. I installed and started playing and the game seems a lot like KOTOR which is just fine with me. The thing is though, I'm a sucker for a good story, and while KOTOR's was pretty generic I still found it great. I've heard Sith Lords story is very convoluted and hard to understand which would suck. So.... what do you guys think. True or not true? Appreciate any replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 It all revolves around one NPC and is pretty illogical, but there are plenty of other things to enjoy about the game. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI: Nihilus Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) Alright, thanks to the folk below, I'll change it into spoiler. Not only 1 NPC, there are also lots of NPCs like K1. The storyline is good, but the pity is it didn't even cross Revan. Edited December 3, 2006 by CSI: Nihilus | RP Fic: Knightfall | RP: Knightfall: The duel between Light and Dark | Savoir, conqueror, hero, villian...You're all those things...--Emperor Skywalker to CSI, redeemed Darth Nihilus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJediConsular Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) Not only 1 NPC, there are also lots of NPCs like K1. The storyline is good, but the pity is it didn't even cross Revan. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Looks like this needs to be moved to spoilers now Edited December 3, 2006 by MasterJediConsular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 That it does. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Personally I prefer the storyline of TSL. I also prefer the Exile to Revan too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Well, it's great story (but I hate it, it doesn't fit into SW) but ending sucks. TSLRP is going to restore original ending/other stuff tho How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Once all the cut content is restored, I'm guessing that TSL will become a lot better than KOTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olgeezer Posted December 3, 2006 Author Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) I have no idea what you guys are talking about with TSL and Exile to Reven. Could someone explain to me what these are? I would appreciate it. Anyway, I guess the story isn't so great huh? That seems to be the general consensus. Thanks again. BTW; I didn't think I was spoiling anything by asking about the story. Did I? Double BTW; How do I turn off a force power once I activate one? Can't find it in the manual. Edited December 3, 2006 by olgeezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 there is a time limit for all buffering powers. So wait it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandobras Took Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 It's great story that's hidden in obscure places (mainly, if you don't know what you're doing influence-wise, you'll miss half the stuff that gives the story meaning). It's also my opinion (and I recognize it's not universally shared) that the story's more intelligible and coherent of played as a Dark Side character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxen83 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 With K2, game for a lightside Exile can be ridiculously flexible. Your character can still support a villain and still stay as lightside. What this also means is that killing can be excessive for character without having alignment penalties for LS characters. That's a bit hard to understand. Deep from within... Victims live a life of fantasy. Some see salvation as an act of God, a few look within for it. 朱宣澧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Architect Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 (edited) Well, it's great story (but I hate it, it doesn't fit into SW) but ending sucks. TSLRP is going to restore original ending/other stuff tho <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True. The story in K2 is awesome IMO, but it's not your stereotypical Star Wars story, and it does go against canon, as in canon, there is no life without the force. Still, it brought something new to Star Wars, something which K1 never did, from a plot perspective that is. The game is great, however take note that it requires you to pay attention and go searching for the answers to some questions you have on your mind (you won't find all the answers you're looking for because of cut content) unlike in K1, when the answers came to you and you never had to search for them. Because of influence and the gender/alignment of your character, you'll miss things here and there and will at least need to try all four combinations to get the full circle, to learn things from all perspectives, so in that sense, the replay value is decent. The ending completely sucks though (thanks to LA :angry:). It's very WTF'ish, lame and anti-climatic. Edited December 4, 2006 by The Architect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecon Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 (edited) The story is unconventional and violates the usual rules. Its also hard to understand. It doesn't really help that the game is obviously unfinished. Many of the last levels of it do not really make sense. But you can expect the main villain to have a very unconventional motivation; taking over the world wasn't exactly his plan. Edited December 4, 2006 by Gecon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandobras Took Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 There is a point of contention there -- more than few believe it was simply a new spin on "destroy the world." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiGaijin Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 The main storyline isn't bad, it's just hard to follow. The best stories in the game can be found by opening influence options with the various NPC's ... I find this easier to do by playing lightside, but others will probably disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxen83 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 (edited) Can only think of influencing characters like Mandalore, HK-47, Visas, G0T0 and perhaps Kreia occasionally for DS. With darkside, characters influenced are usually HK-47 and Visas. Can't give specific reason, but G0T0 is character that I hardly used at all as his story was hard to grasp at all. Still, Kreia's story is something that was hardly told in any character from original KotOR. Edited December 4, 2006 by vaxen83 Deep from within... Victims live a life of fantasy. Some see salvation as an act of God, a few look within for it. 朱宣澧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olgeezer Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Is the story coherent at all? I mean am I going to play the whole game and wonder what it was all about? I don't really care if it's not accurate "Star Wars" material as I didn't buy KOTOR for that. I just wanted an RPG with a decent story which I got with the original. Just hoping that the Sith Lords story makes some kind of sense. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgatorio Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Then yes it is worth getting it. The cut content isn't something I base my opinion on, without it the story still works well, the characters, and their motivations are intelligent. S.A.S.I.S.P.G.M.D.G.S.M.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecon Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) Well, you don't wonder what its all about, but the end is very unfinished and some actions of your opponents remain in a state of being very hard to understand. At the end you also get pushed into some levels with tasks that have not be explained before and are never talked about afterwards either. In short, the end of the game is some kind of beta, storywise. The earlier levels are finished, however. Oh, and if you're not planning to buy the english original, you should really try to get that one, because then you can already play with the stuff from Team Gizka who are trying to restore all left out content, or at least most of it. People like me who have the german version are excluded, sadly. Edited December 5, 2006 by Gecon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Well, story truly rocks, but you're going to have quite a WTF-moment in the end How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olgeezer Posted December 5, 2006 Author Share Posted December 5, 2006 Well, story truly rocks, but you're going to have quite a WTF-moment in the end <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well I'm asking about this because so far anyway, the story has sucked me in pretty good. Although I've already lost some influence with Kriea, or whatever the old broads name is. I know this has been placed in the spoilers section but I would appreciate it if we can keep this kinda spoiler free, as I'm just starting the game. Just how important is the influence system in the game? I'm only now just trying to start the quest for the Itharians, (escorting their robot), as I've decided, for the time being anyway, to ally with them. Guess I'm just wondering if I need to really pay attention to this part of the game. Again, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I think you should kill them all, kill them all if I could I will kill everyone on my ship other then HK and T3 but thats just me. The force helps me poop better, and use lightsabers to cut my food that then turns into poop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellypie Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Just how important is the influence system in the game? Fairly important. Or at least important to influence Kreia and Bao-Dur. "They might not call you a Jedi anymore, but believe me, you are. It's not the sort of thing that you just stop being. You're stuck with it, just like you're stuck being the General." ~Bao-Dur, Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Especially Kreia. You get much more from the game if you have good influence with her How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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